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Friday, 17 Mar 2006
As geopolitical tensions rise with the Iranian regime, a national coalition of American students is uniting for The Iran Freedom Concert. The concert raises awareness of the Iranian government’s human rights abuses and expresses solidarity with Iranian students seeking to end these violations. The coalition is non-partisan and does not take a stance on policy issues like foreign intervention. Our message is simple: civil rights must be respected by any Iranian government, and freedom must become a reality for all Iranians.
Hell Yeah!
Hopefully the egyptian american students will have the Egypt Freedom concert one day. I find that it’s really sad that the disapora egyptians can’t seem to unite on such a postion. You have the christian egyptians immigrants, who are solely campaigning for coptic christians rights, and you have the muslim egyptian immigrants, who are dedicated not to do anything that may actually benefit their country of origion. Both need to come together and fight for the rights of all egyptians- which would include freedom of religion and equalilty- together. But, unfortunately, that is very unlikely to happen, and we seem to be destined to remain divided here and abroad.
March 17th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
It’s hard enough just getting one political or religious group to agree with *itself* on anything, let alone getting two of them together to agree on something.
But I have hope yet for humanity. It’s slim, but it’s there.
March 18th, 2006 at 1:44 am
As we lose our civil rights we demonstrate for the civil rights of Iran citizens. We criticize our government or the rationale for going into Iraq and we are accused of being unpatriotic. Anything less than full time cheerleading for the policies of our country and we are undermining the morale and safety of our troops and we ourselves are the enemy.
The people of Iraq have been freed from the deadly arrogance of a tyrant. They are being offered two choices … Liberation by a fundamentalist governed country as long as they follow the precepts of that country or liberation by a fundamentalist governed country as long as they follow the precepts of that country. Hell of a choice.
March 18th, 2006 at 2:54 am
Sam,
I agree somewhat with the gist of your post; you definitely hit a nerve with this one.
“You have the muslim egyptian immigrants, who are dedicated not to do anything that may actually benefit their country of origion”
While your statment holds some truth, it makes it sound as if the Muslim Egyptian American is completely useless. It should be clarified that the Egyptian American comes in many colors.
The Egyptian diaspora is divided into three main groups:
1. Those that mesh with other Arab nationalities where the Palestinian cause takes center stage, and therefore fights that battle
2. The Egyptian that identifies more with their Muslim side than their Egyptian side, and therefore supports anti-Islamophobic causes
2. The “elite” that are supportive and/or involved with the Egyptian embassy, and therefore whatever anti-government views they hold, they supress. This is especially prevalent in the Washington DC area, unfortunately.
3. The regular Egyptian who still carries the conspiratorial fear of Egypt’s security forces (i.e. mesh haydakhalook elbalad) and/or who’s longing for and absence from Egypt makes him either in denial or forgetful of the dire situation there.
But I do agree that we need to unify our voices for Egypt, regardless of religion or socio-economic class. At this time unfortunately most Egyptian organizations here are promoting Egyptian culture almost exclusively.
March 18th, 2006 at 2:55 am
Ok, that was four groups. I need to get some sleep.
March 18th, 2006 at 3:55 am
“Both need to come together and fight for the rights of all egyptians- “
You can’t fight tyrants and dictators and pretend democratic governments with words or peaceful protests.
All you get is shot, beat up or imprisioned.
If you want to fight and win, you have to use violence and kill more of them than they kill of you.
“But I do agree that we need to unify our voices for Egypt, regardless of religion or socio-economic class.”
As stated above, voices alone will only get you killed or jailed. You need to unify and train yourself an underground military and when ready, fight and kill to win.
Otherwise, you are going to have to wait on someone from the outside to rescue you, and you know that the Arab mind can not handle that. Arabs would feel shamed and they would rather die than be shamed.
Papa Ray
West Texas
USA
March 18th, 2006 at 5:28 am
Dang Papa
You sound like you write for the dude’s in black:
Sorta like Al Queda:
“If you want to fight and win, you have to use violence and kill more of them than they kill of you.”
Sorta like Hamas:
“As stated above, voices alone will only get you killed or jailed. You need to unify and train yourself an underground military and when ready, fight and kill to win.”
The enemy of my enemy is my friend …. until they become like me.
Papa, you are your own enemy
‘I’ took a walk down the street, trying to remember who my friends used to be;
I took a walk in the moonlight, there’s a hole where my soul used to be”
Bluerunners
The Gravedigger
(Meaux/Huval/Stevenson)
Do some blues
March 18th, 2006 at 5:32 am
The last was done without the permission of the Bluerunners
March 18th, 2006 at 9:31 am
Both Muslim and Coptic immigrants seem to be so heavily into their own tribal rights (and more often wrongs) that it is difficult to imagine them active in serious major politics. ME politics seems so often to mean “gun” that one wonders whether some of these guys actually understand the idea of consensus politics at all.
March 18th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Papa Ray
May I suggest that you take a look at Gandhi?
http://www.mkgandhi.org/
September 20th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
Moose, You claim that Iraq has a choice of liberation by one fundementalist Gov, or another? I assume you are referring to the USA as one of the fundy governments. Yet you seem free enough to have a desenting view here. Have the Fundi’s come to take you away? Are you in a bunker hiding from the sercet police? Are you or your family in jeopardy of beheading when you express your own political thoughts ? Perhaps you should review that comparison when your sober.