Wednesday, 7 Jun 2006
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June 7th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
Well of course it’s Bush’s fault! In no way shape or form should she have put in her diaphram. Why should she ruin the “heat of the moment” to prevent an unwanted pregnancy! How dare her doctors not prescribe Plan B (AKA: a new morning after type pill) to keep her from suffering any consequeces for her irresponsible actions. BLAH!
PS: before anyone flames me: I am not anti-abortion, I am anti-irresponsibility and pro-personal responsibility
June 7th, 2006 at 2:47 pm
I am not pitying her, neither blaming her : she has the luxe for choices and complains, and, as a lawer, she try to find a responsable !
” responsable but not coupable” , a magic formule already famous here !
June 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
lawyer, not lawer
June 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
“I’m blaming you.”
“But… it wasn’t my fault!”
“I didn’t say it was your fault.. but I’m blaming you.”
yeah. gotta loooooooove America. *sigh*
June 7th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
To Chris: Are you a guy? And who are you to judge? I don’t care what you believe in, but I would respect you more if you were FOR the right to life rather than AGAINST irresponsibility. What are you, perfect or something? You never make a mistake because of poor planning?
I completely agree with the writer. I won’t even go into how a 42 yr old married mother of 2 has the right to make her own judgements about her body, health, and family.
But its TRUE that the FDA has gone outside of its charter to veto the morning-after-pill. It is safe, it has passed rigorous testing, is used in many countries overseas - but is still not legal because a U.S. committee thinks it will lead to adolescent sex groups.
How does the possibility of an adolescent sex group relate to this woman? It doesn’t.
June 7th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
She had plenty of choices–she just couldn’t be inconvenienced to take them.
Instead, she gambled on her age or statistical probability would save her…After all, it usually takes even young, healthy couples several tries to get pregnant.
When it didn’t, she decided to blame everyone but herself and her husband.
I actually feel physically ill reading her article.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:33 pm
This is horseshit. A lot of people have ended up with far worse than pregnancy because “they couldn’t wait.” Didn’t her husband have a condom? No birth control device is 100% so you have to have multiple protection Yeah, it’s all Bush’s fault. I hope this c*** doesn’t pass on her version of personal responsibility to her kids.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
She’s an attorney, what do you expect? The current climate here in America- which has been going on for some time now- is it’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault, and people like her are the ones who started that nonsense. As far as the FDA- I’m not sure that they don’t approve new drugs as soon as they could, but just give any drug about 5 years; someone will have a health problem- and then will come the class action lawsuits against the makers of the drug and anyone else that can be blamed.
I feel sorry for that woman’s kids- you know, the ones she DIDN’T kill because they weren’t “accidents” or “inconvenient”.
June 7th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
But its TRUE that the FDA has gone outside of its charter to veto the morning-after-pill. It is safe, it has passed rigorous testing, is used in many countries overseas - but is still not legal because a U.S. committee thinks it will lead to adolescent sex groups.
Yeah, and that’s what gets me. To try to keep kids from having sex, you threaten them with unwanted pregnancy. So, you want the consequences of having sex too early to be having the responsibility of raising a child when you’re too young?
Goddamn sanctimonious assholes.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
i find it interesting that during the whole article she only writes a half sentence claiming any responsibility at all….during the heat of the moment, i failed to put in my diaphram. during the rest of the article she is always saying how she is “forced” to do things and “has no choice” in this. i could imagine what my parents would say if i told them that i had gotten a girl pregnant because during the heat of the moment i failed to use a condom. the fact that this skank is in her 40s with 2 children is scary.
June 7th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
Wow … I am surprised at the comments — are you really chiding a 42 year old woman for having irresponsible sex?
If she is like other older married women with kids, she probably gets to have sex with her husband once or twice a month — when it can be carefully planned around the family’s busy schedule. Spontaneous sex goes out the window when you have children, get older, no longer have the power to give your man a spontaneous erection with a twitch of your hips. How pro-marriage, how pro-family is it to condemn this woman for enjoying spontaneous passion with her husband at the age of 42??!
This isn’t a teenager in the back of a car, kids. I’m kind of shocked at the assumptions that “she had plenty of choices, she just couldn’t be inconvenienced to take them.”
You clearly are not pro-life when you say that, but clearly anti-woman. It’s her own damn fault, so of course she should suffer. That’ll learn her to enjoy marital intimacy — the hussy!
June 7th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
anyhow, she did’nt want to take a brake in her precious time earning that precious money, but, that was her real choice !
no matter, what she does with her mari or any sex aventure she wanted , its her own business
June 7th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
I am glad we are not getting any more offsprings from that gene pool!!
June 7th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
How about the woman in People magazine that’s sueing her doctor because her little girl has spina-bifida. He didn’t order tests for her when she was pregnant to see if her baby was “normal” when she could have a “choice” to abort her. Wonder what that little girl is gonna think when she grows up and realizes her parents sued because she is alive. sis from the usa
June 7th, 2006 at 8:18 pm
What Sam said … denying someone access to safe medicine is otrocious and a crime. What’s next - denying access to Condoms, lubricants and handlotion?
June 7th, 2006 at 8:29 pm
This is ridiculous. She was denied access to Plan B? What kind of country is this? That is a completely safe medication. The morning-after pill is a right and there’s absolutely nothing immoral or unsafe about. You can’t kill something that isn’t alive yet.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
It is a good thing she had an abortion, I suppose.
After all, if she didn’t, imagine what sort of kid she would bring into the world with an irresponsible, whiny attidue like hers.
Fuck her. Better yet, don’t fuck her.
June 7th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
I don’t disagree with a morning after pill, but she is irresponsible. Period.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Policy, mabe. Bush, hell no!
It was her little moment of passion.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:43 pm
I read the whole story. At first, I thought it was some kind of joke. It isn’t.
Here’s the bottom line….the woman is 42 years old and a lawyer, no less. She’s a grown woman. An adult. People are responsible for what they do, and what they don’t do. Talk about irresponsibility. This is what the left has to offer: when things in your life go wrong, look for someone to blame.
Jloubelle says:
I’m kind of shocked at the assumptions that “she had plenty of choices, she just couldn’t be inconvenienced to take them.”
You clearly are not pro-life when you say that, but clearly anti-woman.
Anti-woman? Oh, what utter horsehit!
June 7th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
ABORTIONISTS ARE BY DEFINITION ANTI SURVIVALISTS
I say if she wants one, fine. More room for me and mine. My wife’s last child was a much hoped for daughter at age 45. She iis now a beautiful 8 year old.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:21 pm
I’m getting on this bandwagon:
The weather is a little bit sultry today. I blame Bush for this travesty.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
Surprised she didn’t blame her husband.
How dare he not pull out!
June 7th, 2006 at 11:46 pm
Was George the father of the unborn baby?
June 8th, 2006 at 12:24 am
How easy it is to moralize on the life and the choises of other people.
So glad to be born in Europe…
June 8th, 2006 at 12:46 am
I blame her mother for not aborting her.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:48 am
How easy it is to live an amoral life, blind to creeping Islamofascism and the most absurd and inane multiculturalism and political correctness.
So glad I wasn’t born in Europe…
June 8th, 2006 at 12:52 am
We don´t miss you here, Tommy
June 8th, 2006 at 1:21 am
I know, Marianne. We Americans are only welcomed when you dumb Euros have gotten yourself in a huge mess and need us to bail your sorry asses out.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:39 am
That’s a one-two knock-out combo, Tommy. Go easy on the poor girl. She’s Urrrooopeeeaaaann, you know.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:43 am
While I understand her concerns based on taking medications which would likely cause birth defects, not using contraception and blaming someone else for the pregnancy is sort of like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer and suing the hammer company.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:09 am
This is exactly why I hate red state America. The author is right, Bush administration policies put her in a position where she was faced with the choice. If the Plan B medication had been available to her, we wouldn’t be debating her supposed “whiny attitude” or her “irresponsible actions”.
Bottom line, if you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. If you don’t like others having abortions, work to help them from becoming pregnant when they don’t want to be pregnant. This woman, and her husband, made one mistake, and when she tried to correct it, she was denied the ability due to Bush administration policies. Policies which were made possible by ignorant, hateful, arrogant, condescending red-staters who are more concerned with telling a woman what she can or cannot do with her body, and ignorant of issues like insane deficit spending, a war waged on lies, allowing the terrorists who attacked this country to go free, spying on us, etc. etc. etc.
Tommy, you wonder why Europeans feel superior to us. There you go.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:29 am
They created a potential human being and killed it. Making a mistake is locking yourself out of the car. Sex causes children. Maybe you should redo ninth grade?
This is what pisses me off about the pro-abortion people: trivializing the creation of human life and the irresponsibility of the people who do it and decide to end that life. If it was just “a woman’s body” and not “a woman’s body and another body” I might have more sympathy.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:05 am
This is what pisses me off about the pro-abortion people:
We’re not “pro-abortion”. Nobody likes abortion. We just see that if it’s not available, far worse things happen. “Pro-life” is actually pro-death. You would prefer a desperate woman or teenager to use a coathanger on herself than have access to a safe, legal abortion.
Read this sometime: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html. It shows how truly hypocritical many in the “pro-life” camp are.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:37 am
Originally posted by RocketRay
Nobody likes abortion. We just see that if it’s not available, far worse things happen.
You mean like start being more responsible citizens? I’m shock, shock, I tell ya.
Listen, when I was in high school, I saw several of my female classmates walk from class to class with huge bellies. Their backs must have been killing them, not to mention the self-conscious guilt they felt when other students stared at them. They barely get by financially, yet they took responsibility for their actions and carry their pregnancies to full terms, all the while trying to get their high school diplomas to further their education so they could take care of their new babies.
This woman in the article is 42 years old and she’s a lawyer who probably belongs to the middle class or upper class. She’s twice as old as the students in my school yet isn’t even half as responsible as they were. She’s a brat who blames others for her mistakes and miscalculations rather than learning to take responsibility for her actions. Bush didn’t caused her to have sex. She chose to have sex without a diaphragm. Her husband chose to have sex without a condom and without having his tubes tied. She chose to take her chances by playing russian roulette and lost. If she wants to blame anyone, she should start with the person in the mirror.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:49 am
Woman Writes, “My Abortion is Everyone’s Fault but
After coming across this article at one of my favorite blogs (Sandmonkey), I actually feel physically ill.
This woman blames the Bush administration for her decision to have an abortion:
June 8th, 2006 at 5:05 am
Jloubelle–
How does being 42 absolve her of being responsibility? I’m afraid I don’t understand your reasoning… At 42 she should know better–how is it more appropriate for a 42 year old to make a rash decision than a teenager?
As far as being pro-family and pro-woman, she can have as much sex as she wants with her husband–I wish her much joy in those endeavors.
But that doesn’t mean they both don’t have an obligation to themselves and their families to do so responsibly. If she is so “passionate” (or scatterbrained) that she can’t manage to remember her diaphragm, or feels it and other barrier methods interfere with “the moment,” there are other options. Perhaps she cannot take hormonal methods? She says she and her husband are done with having kids and she is on medication that could harm a fetus–vasectomies and tubal ligations are both options in that case.
The whole “she didn’t have access to Plan B” is patently FALSE. Plan B IS available in America–just not over the counter and served with a smile the way she wants it. I guarantee there is a clinic near her house where she could have obtained the medication. She did not have access that was CONVENIENT enough for her, so she decided to bet on the odds.
Besides, what she DEFINITELY had access to was a regular form of birth control. As an adult in a monogamous relationship who has decided not to have any more children, she did not use it. She screwed up. Does that mean I think she should be punished? No. Pregnancy isn’t a punishment–it is a blessing, and a HUGE responsibility, and sometimes a consequence of unprotected sex.
Did she know how people get pregnant?
Did she know about birth control?
Did she have access to said birth control.
Yes, yes, yes.
Did Bush hide her diaphragm? No. Did he turn off her phone so she could not locate someone who would prescribe and dispense the medication? No.
So, whose responsibility is it? Hers and her husband’s.
June 8th, 2006 at 7:18 am
ArmyArtilleryWife
that ‘ the way I feel it, but I might not having understood all the stuff in american !
what I wanted to tell, she is a lucky woman, she lives in a supposed rich country, and if she did not wanted a new child, it was only a purpose of confort, it is not serious for the rest of humanity !
Tommy, I used to read better arguments ! (lol)
June 8th, 2006 at 7:59 am
Zarqawi has been killed in an air strike according to news reports!
Cool.
June 8th, 2006 at 11:17 am
Is the question not who’s the master of the female body. The woman or the rest of the world.
She made an error, want’s to ‘fix’ it, but are not allowed to do it in the maner that gives less trouble, but are forced to do it the hard way.
It dosn’t matter that she is 42 years old, a lawyer, an american or whatever, what matters is why isn’t she allowed to decied what’s best for her and her surroundings.
June 8th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
Anne Marie–
She was “allowed” to “fix” it…she just decided it was inconvenient and chanced it.
She also refuses to own the initial “mistake.”
Not to mention that many of us believe that a fetus isn’t a “mistake”–it is a living being.
Yes, a woman has rights–but does an unborn fetus? And when do those rights kick in? And how do we balance those rights with those of the woman?
June 8th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
If she didn’t want another child she should have just kept her knees together to start with. Stupid twit. That IS how you make babies after all. That is the puyrpose of that fun act.
June 9th, 2006 at 12:54 am
Why is so many of you almost eager to condem the woman and completely forgetting her husbands part in all of this?
June 9th, 2006 at 12:58 am
#29 - Tommy
Please stay at home.
June 9th, 2006 at 2:29 am
Marianne–I would just like to point out that I have repeatedly included her husband.
Although she clearly took responsibility for the birth control by choosing that method (diaphragm), HE should have noticed she did not stop to use it and either reminded her or used a condom.
If she needed more time to find a place that offered Plan B, HE should have come home early from work to get the kids off the bus.
He clearly has a responsibility here, as well.