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Thursday, 22 Jun 2006

Oh hell

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Alaa is getting beaten up at the Omraneyah police station right now instead of getting released. I just received this text-message:

"From Aida Seif Al Dawla:

Blogger Alaa Seif is currently getting beaten and mistreated by plain clothed people in the Omraneya police station. He informed his wife Manal who was able to see him today, that sice he arrived there last nite he hasn;t been allowed to sit or rest, but rather has been standing or barely sitting and is subject to beating, pushing, verbal abused and sleep deprived!"

What the Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

Update: Couldn't reach Manal, so I contacted Nora and found out the following: Alaa was released by state security in Gaber in Hayan yesterday, who insisted on sending him to the Omranyeah Police station and said that he would be released from there. The Omraneyah Police station Sherrif apprently has a long history of issues with Alaa's father, so he is taking it out on Alaa. Alaa wasn't allowed to be released, they made him spend the night in a jail cell so packed with people u don't even have space to sit down, and they sent in thugs especially to hassle him, push him around and beat him up. They knew that sending him to Prison didn't break him, so now it seems that they are out to achieve that goal at any cost. They are even saying they won't let him out today and are insisting that he spends the night.

This is soo fucked! As Alia is now telling me: "The thing that kills you, is that everyone knows and not a thing anyone can do."

I really hate this Country sometimes! I really really do! 

Update: Hosam , form the arabist , has contacted Manal and Alaa's father. Here is what he knows :

I spoke with his wife Manal. She says 3alaa was moved from Tora prison
to 3omraniya police station last night, for the notorious bureaucratic
paper work. 3alaa was locked up in a tiny cell, full of criminals, some
of whom are high on drugs and others are armed with knives and sharp
objects, Manal said. Scuffles have broken out inside the cell between
the criminals, who reportedly hit 3alaa several times. 3alaa spent the
night standing on his feet, coz there was no room for him to sleep in
that filthy cell. According to Manal, he managed to call her on the
mobile phone, and he sounded in a very bad state.

I called Ahmad Seif al-Islam, 3alaa’s father,
Some activists and 3alaa’s family are standing now in front of the
police station awaiting the blogger’s release. On hearing the news
3alaa was beaten up, other activists are now on their way to the police
station to assemble in front of it, and demonstrate if the activist’s
release is stalled further.

Fantastic, they are going to demonstrate in front of the police station to make it easier on the police to go out there and arrest them and throw them in jail. Freakin Genius.

Oh well, at least they are doing something! 

sigh…

Update: I am eating my words. The gathering up in front of the police station alarmed the police, so they released Alaa. They just released Alaa! I repeat, he is now out and free to go home. Thank God!


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51 Responses to “Oh hell”

  1. stillsmokin Says:

    that really sucks….those fuckers!!! i had a car accident some time ago and had to go to the abdin poloce station to file the report…regular standard paperwork. it somehow escalated to the neyaba where they screwed with my head and pushed me around like i was their freakin puppet!!!
    when will it all end….sigh

  2. Roman Kalik Says:

    Shit. Alaa should be free right now. Fucking free.

  3. Amr Gharbeia Says:

    Manal just sent me a text, “Dont know what to do, ppl are gathering in front of the police station. He took zenzanet el ta2deeb [solitary cell] when they were in hunger strike bravely, but now he was begging us to get him out.”

  4. Amr Gharbeia Says:

    And now she writes, “He is out”.

  5. The Sandmonkey Says:

    I know. I received the same text!

  6. Twosret Says:

    This is really horrible someone should do something about this.

  7. Twosret Says:

    Oh finally God this is so horrible, I really feel terrible for him and hope he doesn’t have to be arrested ever again. He needs to do things in a better way.

    Thank God he is out!

  8. Roman Kalik Says:

    Thank heavens he’s out.

  9. Valerie Says:

    I am glad to see that Alaa is out. Now, about the rest of the detainees….

  10. The Big Pharaoh » Alaa RELEASED Says:

    [...] The Sandmonkey has other updates. [...]

  11. lala Says:

    Thank God!

    For future reference, is there anyone to write to to protest such incarcerations?

  12. TheRaccoon Says:

    Yei! Yei! Yei yei! Freeeeee!

    Alaa became somewhat of a celeb… seems like good time for him and close family to split Egypt and start gathering international support for his cause.

  13. joe5348 Says:

    SM,
    During World War II, in Berlin, when they were running out of Jews, the government arrested Jewish men with Christian wives. The wives demonstrated in front of the police station demanding their husbands back. The government gave them their husbands back. Hell hath no fury like an angry wife. It is amazing what we can do if we stand up to bullies.

    Joe

  14. nice Jewish Boy Says:

    Congratulations on your friend’s release. Now, about your country’s release.

    SM, maybe you have before, but would you post something on your thoughts about Anwar Sadat. He always got good press in the West and I’m wondering if he would have made a difference — in your opinion — had he lived.

  15. Gadfly Says:

    Holy shit

    I just read all of this and now feel like I’m stepping off a rollercoaster.

    I’m just thankful that he’s finally free.

  16. sunrunner Says:

    Motherfucking sadists. They are trying to make an example of him. Brave, brave people for going to the police station.

    Thank the stars his is home now. And Sandmonkey - thank YOU for updates.

  17. tommy Says:

    Glad to see this story ends on a better note than it began. It requires risks like protesting in a dangerous place to make things happen sometimes.

  18. Craig Says:

    Glad to hear he’s out. Do he and Manal plan on staying in Egypt?

  19. Olive Picker Says:

    Who guards the guardians?

    If there is noone, this is what happens.

    I am very happy Alaa is finally free and I am sure that *(&%^% of a &*%^$#%@ at the police station was jealous of him because Alaa has a wonderful wife and many friends that love him. I sincerely doubt that sick sadist has anyone loving him in his life.

  20. Jloubelle Says:

    I’ve been away and I missed this whole thing! I had worked up a good burning outrage, and then got to the part where he had already been released. Oh. Well, good!! It’s good to see the power of nonviolent protest at work.

  21. Egypeter Says:

    Thank god they finally let the poor guy out!

  22. D.B. Shobrawy Says:

    I think the best thing to do in this case is to take photos of him immediately after his release and publish them on every egyptian blog.

  23. Delbarre Says:

    A perilous dance with the Arab press
    Mona Eltahawy

    Published: June 19, 2006

    NEW YORK Writing for an Arab newspaper is like playing hopscotch in a minefield.

    From January 2004 until early this year I played my game of hopscotch in a weekly column on the opinion pages of Asharq al-Awsat, the London-based, Saudi-owned newspaper that is read across the Arab world.

    And then I stepped on a mine. Without warning or notice, fewer and fewer of my columns made it into print. Then my articles stopped appearing altogether. I had been banned.

    Nobody tells you that you’re banned from an Arab paper - especially a paper that is supposedly the liberal home of writers banned from other papers, which is how Asharq al-Awsat portrays itself.

    Sadly, my experience is not unique. When I told a veteran Egyptian journalist that I had not been officially notified of my ban, he reminded me that he found out about his removal as editor of a newspaper in Egypt when he read about it in another newspaper.

    Another Egyptian journalist told me he’d been “lucky”: The editor of a newspaper he used to write for actually confessed to him that the Egyptian regime had called the Saudi prince who publishes the paper and requested that my friend be banned.

    That is probably what happened in my case. Since Egypt’s parliamentary elections last year, which left President Hosni Mubarak’s National Democratic Party in firm control of the legislature, the Egyptian regime has been settling scores with opponents, particularly those who support a small but vocal reform movement that has organized unprecedented street protests in Cairo.

    I had moved back to Cairo from New York last year for four months to document and to take part in that reform movement, and devoted many of my weekly Asharq al-Awsat columns to it.

    At the end of my stay, just before I left Egypt to return to New York, I was summoned to State Security because of an article I wrote criticizing the fraud and violence in the parliamentary elections. The summons was intended as a “we are watching you” warning.

    Over the past two months, the Egyptian regime has brutally cracked down against democracy activists and journalists, beating and imprisoning many of the men and women I wrote about. Several of the detainees have accused security forces of torturing them in jail.

    The trouble with Asharq al-Awsat, beyond its disturbing acquiescence to Arab regimes, is that it claimed a liberalism that was patently false.

    Before my ban, Asharq al-Awsat launched a Web site in English. Designed to show Western readers how liberal it was, the site suffered from Yasser Arafat syndrome. Just as the late Palestinian leader’s statements in Arabic and in English were sometimes contradictory, the newspaper in Arabic would abide by the red lines that govern criticism of Arab leaders while in English it ran roughshod over those very same lines.

    A column I wrote tearing into the Egyptian regime for allowing its security forces to beat peaceful protesters and to sexually assault female journalists and demonstrators was spiked from the Arabic newspaper and Web site but appeared in its entirety on the English Web site.

    Few newspapers in the Arab world are truly independent. Most are state- controlled or state-owned, or owned by persons very close to the state; Asharq al-Awsat is published by a nephew of the Saudi king.

    The major red lines at Asharq al- Awsat could be quite simple - in descending order they were the Saudi royal family, Saudi Arabia’s allies in the Gulf (Qatar, a rival, was considered fair game) and then Saudi Arabia’s other Arab allies.

    Within such a hierarchy of red lines, the Egyptian regime can indeed pull rank and demand that Asharq al- Awsat silence a critic.

    So why did I even bother writing for Asharq al-Awsat? After I left news reporting and switched to opinion writing after the attacks of September 11, 2001, I didn’t want to address just a Western audience. When it comes to reform and the fight against religious militancy, the primary conversation must be among us Arabs and Muslims - hence the need to wade into the minefield that is the Arab press.

    It is gratifying to know that Arab regimes and compliant newspapers consider some of us annoying enough to ban, but equally sad to consider the many gatekeepers that stand between us and our fellow Arabs.

    NEW YORK Writing for an Arab newspaper is like playing hopscotch in a minefield.

    From January 2004 until early this year I played my game of hopscotch in a weekly column on the opinion pages of Asharq al-Awsat, the London-based, Saudi-owned newspaper that is read across the Arab world.

    And then I stepped on a mine. Without warning or notice, fewer and fewer of my columns made it into print. Then my articles stopped appearing altogether. I had been banned.

    Nobody tells you that you’re banned from an Arab paper - especially a paper that is supposedly the liberal home of writers banned from other papers, which is how Asharq al-Awsat portrays itself.

    Sadly, my experience is not unique. When I told a veteran Egyptian journalist that I had not been officially notified of my ban, he reminded me that he found out about his removal as editor of a newspaper in Egypt when he read about it in another newspaper.

    Another Egyptian journalist told me he’d been “lucky”: The editor of a newspaper he used to write for actually confessed to him that the Egyptian regime had called the Saudi prince who publishes the paper and requested that my friend be banned.

    That is probably what happened in my case. Since Egypt’s parliamentary elections last year, which left President Hosni Mubarak’s National Democratic Party in firm control of the legislature, the Egyptian regime has been settling scores with opponents, particularly those who support a small but vocal reform movement that has organized unprecedented street protests in Cairo.

    I had moved back to Cairo from New York last year for four months to document and to take part in that reform movement, and devoted many of my weekly Asharq al-Awsat columns to it.

    At the end of my stay, just before I left Egypt to return to New York, I was summoned to State Security because of an article I wrote criticizing the fraud and violence in the parliamentary elections. The summons was intended as a “we are watching you” warning.

    Over the past two months, the Egyptian regime has brutally cracked down against democracy activists and journalists, beating and imprisoning many of the men and women I wrote about. Several of the detainees have accused security forces of torturing them in jail.

    The trouble with Asharq al-Awsat, beyond its disturbing acquiescence to Arab regimes, is that it claimed a liberalism that was patently false.

    Before my ban, Asharq al-Awsat launched a Web site in English. Designed to show Western readers how liberal it was, the site suffered from Yasser Arafat syndrome. Just as the late Palestinian leader’s statements in Arabic and in English were sometimes contradictory, the newspaper in Arabic would abide by the red lines that govern criticism of Arab leaders while in English it ran roughshod over those very same lines.

    A column I wrote tearing into the Egyptian regime for allowing its security forces to beat peaceful protesters and to sexually assault female journalists and demonstrators was spiked from the Arabic newspaper and Web site but appeared in its entirety on the English Web site.

    Few newspapers in the Arab world are truly independent. Most are state- controlled or state-owned, or owned by persons very close to the state; Asharq al-Awsat is published by a nephew of the Saudi king.

    The major red lines at Asharq al- Awsat could be quite simple - in descending order they were the Saudi royal family, Saudi Arabia’s allies in the Gulf (Qatar, a rival, was considered fair game) and then Saudi Arabia’s other Arab allies.

    Within such a hierarchy of red lines, the Egyptian regime can indeed pull rank and demand that Asharq al- Awsat silence a critic.

    So why did I even bother writing for Asharq al-Awsat? After I left news reporting and switched to opinion writing after the attacks of September 11, 2001, I didn’t want to address just a Western audience. When it comes to reform and the fight against religious militancy, the primary conversation must be among us Arabs and Muslims - hence the need to wade into the minefield that is the Arab press.

    It is gratifying to know that Arab regimes and compliant newspapers consider some of us annoying enough to ban, but equally sad to consider the many gatekeepers that stand between us and our fellow Arabs.
    *****************************************************

    WORTH READING

    Ibrahim analyzes the reasons for this money quote:

    Consider, moreover, that at the height of the Arab-Israeli conflict in 1973, Egypt’s armed forces had 1 million troops. Now only 350,000 serve in the military, while the internal security police recently hit the 1 million mark.
    But Mubarak keeps them busy arresting and releasing anyone who dares disagree, for example, an award winning blogger.

    WORTH READING

    Ibrahim analyzes the reasons for this money quote:

    Consider, moreover, that at the height of the Arab-Israeli conflict in 1973, Egypt’s armed forces had 1 million troops. Now only 350,000 serve in the military, while the internal security police recently hit the 1 million mark.
    But Mubarak keeps them busy arresting and releasing anyone who dares disagree, for example, an award winning blogger.

  24. Blue Crab Boulevard Says:

    Blogger Released From Egyptian Jail

    Egyptian Blogger Alaa has been released. After a lot of frantic worrying along the way, I might add. They released him from prison to a police station where he was being mistreated. But a gathering of protesters in front of the station finall…

  25. Steven Says:

    Welcome home Alaa.

  26. Original.Jeff Says:

    Sandmonkey,

    A new poll is out…

    “The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other”
    http://www.pewtrusts.org/pdf/PGAP_Muslim_0606.pdf

    Q. Did Arabs carry out 9/11 attacks?
    A. 59% of Egyptians say “No”, and 32% say “Yes”

    2% of Egyptians view Jews favorably, compared with 86% of French.

  27. eee Says:

    > Alaa is getting beaten up at the Omraneyah police station right
    > now instead of getting released.

    It’s required to protect amnesian interests.

    At least they didn’t tortured him to death, as the amnesians do
    with their prisoners - not to mention the master race and their
    baby-killer death-squads.

  28. eee Says:

    > 2% of Egyptians view Jews favorably, compared with 86% of French.

    If the hebrews treated the french as they treat the palestinians - or
    if their media were not opt - the numbers would be similar.

  29. Craig Says:

    Big terror bust in Miami just a while ago. Maybe they got eee!

  30. tommy Says:

    So let me get this straight, eee, treating the French badly will lead to French disapproval of Jews and treating Palestinians badly will lead to Egyptian disapproval of the Jews. In other words, the Egyptians are to the Palestinians what the French are to the French. In still other words, you are admitting the Palestinians are basically the Egyptians, right?

    That Sinai-for-Gaza land exchange is looking better all the time.

  31. tommy Says:

    eee, were you photographing the Sears Tower in Chicago again? I told you to knock it off, the FBI is getting suspicious.

    And about those summer excursions to the madrassas of Pakistan….

  32. Jem Says:

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

  33. forsoothsayer Says:

    please, grow the fuck up. not everyone whi is pro-palestinian is a terrorist. this kind of stereotyping is exactly what causes people in the arab world to stereotype about all westerners.

  34. Nomad Says:

    If the hebrews treated the french as they treat the palestinians - or
    if their media were not opt - the numbers would be similar

    No way :

    we are too fond of “fuck”,

    and plus, we are people who like discusions,
    anywho wants to argue (eee, hehehe, even for nope, you will find someone to take part in argumentation…)

  35. mnuez Says:

    Un-fuckin-believable. Thank God for the end of your post though.

    Anyhow Ssandmonkey, my personal point of view is that there’s power in numbers and that if everyone went to protest in front of the police station the pressue would definitely work. As apparantly it did.

    I was going to mention this advice as soon as I started reading your post but then the end result kind of spoke for itself.

    The truth of the matter my dear Sandmonkey, is that, as a Jew, I have lots of experience in such matters.

    People often ask the question (and usually rather insensitively from comfortable perchs) as to why the Jews of Europe didn;t revolt against the Nazis who were murdering these millions of innocents, and while I think that there are a great many facets to any accurate answer, one of them would have to be the Jewish genius for disorganization.

    This very human factor (that Jews are cursed/blessed with in abundance) is the essence of individuality. The feeling of “I know best” and “I won;t be following orders” and “I’ll do it my way”.

    That sort of activity will make lots of wealthy CEOs but will never mount an effective opposition. And to combat the authorities, my friend, you need lots of soldiers - following orders - knowing that many will go down in the fight - but with the individuals thinking like Roman soldiers NOT as individuals.

    If your whole country, my dear sandmonkey, were to rise up in revolt and demand democracy - as Nepal recently has, I might mention - then no Mubarak in the world could stop the rush.

    So should you go stand in front of the police station and protest?

    Not alone, you’ll get caught, thrown in jail and beaten.

    BUT - That’s what everyone’s saying.

    It DOES in fact take one person to stand up and go down and then three come in his place and sevgen come where they came…

    But yes, the first rows are sacrificed and no one wants to die for the sake of some future democracy that others may appreciate.

    Back to my people in Europe. Did you know that Hitler was working on a museum of the extinct Jewish people? (this isn’t myth, I’ve held some of the artifacts) Well one of his exhibits was to be a truck full of Jews - the last Jews - that he was going to have for the germans as a living travelling exhibit driving through the streets of Berlin. When a survivor was asked (it might have been Victor Frankl) how the hell some Jews in the camps imagined that they would possibly live through the germans, he said: “Every one of us hoped that we’d be on that truck.”

    The only way to succeed in revolution is to go into one expecting to die long before any goals are acheived. Hoping to personally see the fruits of revolution is the surest way to ensure that one never starts.

    And my friend, the MB (and the fuckin palis as well) have their fuckin 72 virgins - or whatever the hell their heaven is supposed to be - so they’re good game to sacrifice their lives for an ideal that they’ll never see. You though do not have that. You’re an individualist who wants a good life and who isn;t all too certain about any afterlife at all. And to make matters worse you don’t have children for “whose better world you’re willing to fight and die”.

    And that’s why Mubes still in power and that’s why the people with the best odds of taking over for him should he ever be removed - - are the mooslams.

    Don’t get me wrong, clever politicking may get you a democracy without some massive and dangerous sign of unity against the government. But I doubt it.

    mnuez

  36. AliGIsDaBomb Says:

    Mnuez, so do you also recommend your strategy of mass uprise for the Palestinians to end the illegal occupation by the Israelis?

  37. Delbarre Says:

    The Marvels pf Egypt
    +++AL AHRAM WEEKLY 22-28 June ‘06: Black and white and Brown”
    HEADING:”The announcement that The Da Vinci Code — both book and film —
    are to be banned in Egypt once again raises questions over the limits of
    freedom of expression, reports Gihan Shahine”
    QUOTES FROM TEXT:
    ” ‘We [at the ministry] ban any book that insults religion’ ”
    “decision to ban … as politically moivated”‘
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    “We [at the ministry] ban any book that insults any religion,” Minister of
    Culture Farouk Hosni told parliament last week.
    [ How about banning the widely recognized hoax "Protocols of the
    Elders of Zion", republished and thoroughly distributed in Egypt?]
    That the list now includes Dan Brown’s international bestseller The Da
    Vinci Code, translated into Arabic in 2003 and widely available since then,
    drew a round of applause from parliamentary members. The blockbuster film
    …is likewise to be banned. . . .The People’s Assembly debated the book
    and film at the request of several Coptic MPs, who were joined by Muslim
    Brotherhood members.
    …The applause did not extend to cultural and human right circles, which
    saw the decision to ban the book and the film as politically motivated, and
    dealing a blow to freedom of expression and creativity.
    … Mohamed Badawi, professor of literary criticism at the American
    University in Cairo …”It’s evident to everybody…”that the Coptic Church
    asked the authorities to ban the film and confiscate the book in return for
    some services and the state responded positively.” Critics, Badawi added,
    have kept their voices down this time for fear that their “opposition to the
    ban be misinterpreted in a sectarian context”.
    …Parliament, he pointed out, had not even formed a committee to study the
    work before reaching a decision. “Many from the Muslim bloc knew next to
    nothing about the story, and misinterpreted the fiction as being slanderous
    to the Virgin Mary whom they had confused with Maria Magdelena.”
    …. Brotherhood MP Hamdi Hassan insists…”Freedom cannot be infinite,” …
    Hafez Abu Seada, secretary-general of the Egyptian Organisation for Human
    Rights (EOHR), worries that the ban violates the constitution, which
    guarantees freedom of expression and creative thinking . . .

  38. Delbarre Says:

    Please place as a separate item

    Ynetnews report on the latest object of the terrorists’ scorn: soccer.

    A British jihadists website has warned Muslims against being drawn in to what they described as “the new religion of soccer.”

    The Saved Sect website, which calls on Muslims to work to establish an Islamic state in Britain, has attacked “football fever,” saying that soccer has “captivated the masses, dedicating their time and effort towards it.”

    Comparing the allegiance of soccer fans to Islam and jihad, the organization said: “Football is the deen (religion) by which people live their lives by and are willing to die for. Their jihad is to fight against those who are arch rivals against their team. Their da’wah (call, invitation) is to publicize, defend and justify their team, inviting others to support them in this.”

    “People will spend hundreds and thousands of pounds for this religion of theirs, traveling to other parts of the world in support of their team… showing affection, supporting and caring about… They will jump down the throats of those who so much as even dare to criticize their god rising to defend it at all costs,” the Saved Sect website said.

    Claiming that soccer plants the seeds of nationalism, and is therefore part of a “colonial crusader scheme” to divide Muslims and cause them to stray from the vision of a unified Islamic identity, the website told readers: “The sad fact of the matter is that many Muslims have fallen for this new religion and they too carry the national flag.

    The statement, aimed at calling on British Muslims to disassociate themselves with the World Cup in Germany, ended with a quote by Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, condemning nationalism.

    I also suspect that the Jihadists despise soccer because it makes life so confusing for them. For example:

    Arsenal (What do you mean no weapons?)
    Cross (What do you mean no Christian infidels?)
    Field (What do you mean no goat?)
    Header (What do you mean no sword and blindfolded prisoner?)
    Hook (What do you mean no Abu Hamza?)

    Midfielder (What do you mean no goat?)
    Offense (What do you mean no Danish cartoons?)
    Penalty (What do you mean no execution?)

    Penetrate (What do you mean no goat?)
    Shielding (What do you mean no civilians?)
    Sudden death (What do you mean no 72 virgins?)
    Territory (What do you mean no Zionist occupiers?)

  39. Max Says:

    ,,, and now all you get at manalaa is:

    Fatal error: Got error 127 from storage engine query: DELETE FROM sessions WHERE timestamp

  40. jonathan riley Says:

    great news!

  41. eee Says:

    > That Sinai-for-Gaza land exchange is looking better all the time.

    Not surprised by a nation of beggars and thieves.

  42. eee Says:

    > eee, were you photographing the Sears Tower in Chicago again?

    Wrong, the guys were from “urban moving”, a mossad puppet - who
    observed some of the 9/11 attackers.

    But they found 3000 dead amnesians much more useful, than 3000
    living amnesians.
    As Netanjahu said then, 9/11 was a good day for the master race.
    Too good.

    And what did Netanjahu know on 7/7 earlier than the british, which
    were killed in the buses, metros?

  43. eee Says:

    > The truth of the matter my dear Sandmonkey, is that, as a Jew, I have
    > lots of experience in such matters.

    I guess you mean torturing and sodomizing palestinians.

    > So should you go stand in front of the police station and protest?
    > Not alone, you’ll get caught, thrown in jail and beaten.

    The master race kills

    They even kill children on their way to school - like Iman Hams -,
    perhaps to make matzahs from their blood.
    And don’t insist to demonstrate peacefully against them in their
    bulldozers, because the master race will crush you alive, because
    that is their right - kill and rob the gentile - steal their land - like
    the Sinai.

  44. eee Says:

    > Big terror bust in Miami just a while ago. Maybe they got eee!

    But Craig - oh Einsteinberg - I’m not catholic …

    Seven men concocted a plot to “kill all the devils we can,” starting
    by blowing up Chicago’s Sears Tower, according to charges in a
    federal indictment revealed Friday

  45. tommy Says:

    His family may have thought he was Catholic. We should all wait and see. Some of his apparent associates appear to have been quite radical Islamists from what I am hearing but we should suspend judgement, at least until more information becomes available about the background of these individuals.

    As I always say, eee is innocent until proven guilty.

    That is the Amnesian way.

  46. Craig Says:

    eee,

    But Craig - oh Einsteinberg - I’m not catholic …

    I know. You’re not an Arab either. You’re an american communist atheist. Which doesn’t stop you from supporting the most radical of Islamic causes with every comment you make, does it?

    That’s kinda why I was hoping you mighta been snatched up in this bust. You’re closer to the profiule of these folks than you are to HAMAS or Al Qaeda. Oh well. Maybe next time :D

    By the way. Ayman Al Zawahiri looked pretty shook up in that video released today. Not his normal calmly smug presentation at all. He probably should have waited til he changed his huggies before making that tape, eh?

  47. eee Says:

    > By the way. Ayman Al Zawahiri looked pretty shook up in that video released today.

    2502?

  48. Twosret Says:

    I think if anyone should be arrested as a terrorist it should be the Nazi Tommy and his Co.

  49. eee Says:

    Relax Mrs. twosret,

    even when you talk to shameless bastards.

  50. tommy the Nazi Says:

    They can’t arrest me Twosret. I’m a member of the Gestapo, remember. I do the arresting around here!

    eee,

    Thanks for that…uh…defense. I owe you one…at least sort of.

  51. Olive Picker Says:

    eee, of all the posts in all the blogs in all of the world wide web, you just HAD to spam this one.

    The rest of you, don’t feed the troll.

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