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Tuesday, 18 Jul 2006
Some of you have asked me for the source of those pictures. They can be found here, and here. Both are taken by Sebastian Scheiner, who works for AP.
And no, this is not the same as military men signing their names on the Bombs. Those are Children. The Israelis have always flaunted their moral superiority over the Hamas Jihadies precisely because they don't indoctrinate their children to hate the same way the Hamastanis do. IF this goes unpunished, then you are on the verge of ideologically becoming them, your enemies. As BP said to me when we discussed those pictures on the phone: Have the Jihadies infected the Israelis or what?
I wonder…
July 18th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Maybe an eye for an eye..
understandable but dangerous as it makes the world go blind. These israelis should realise that in the land of the blind One-Eyed is king and stop their children copying the others.
I don’t blame the kids, but I do their parents. Children should not be dragged into marches; protests; sick attitudes; mocking etcetera.
July 18th, 2006 at 12:33 pm
Keeping little girls away from artillery is probably the best policy.
July 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
I have to agree. This is disgusting. This is nothing less than kidnapping reenactments in Palestinian school recitals.
The commanders that allowed that should be court-martialed.
July 18th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Hate begets hate begets hate begets hate begets….
Some days i despise the human race.
July 18th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
I have to wonder… what is going on in the minds of the parents who allow this? What twisted brain machinery enables you to let your kids run around in a dangerous area and write sick messages on instruments of death?
Has the Israeli society finally sunk to the level of the jihadis?
We should follow this matter - the Officer in Command should definitely be disciplined.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
As noted in the other thread, this appears to be AP press egging the kids on after days in bomb shelters, and them not knowing why the hell Lebanon was lobbing missles at them. Has nothing to do with inculcation, indoctrination, and so on.
Has to do with unscrupulous AP doing bad things (again). You should remember that AP and AFP have a long history of this, specifically against Israel and Israelis.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
sorry as the denial continues i will have to past same comments on this thread as well
Having the Zionists under heat will soon reveal their ugly face that is not much different from that of Hamas. If you like to add more balanced posts i can send you a photo i found on the BBC of a 7 years old settler in Hebron holding and learning to fire an M16, then we can speak about the whole essence of incarcerating 120,000 natives in a maze of check points and security fences so that 400 settlers can enjoy being close to their religious sites on a stolen land.
I read an interview with one refusniks in Israel, the cousin of Benjamin Netanyahu, few days ago. Among other things he said that it is a habitual practice in Israel to take school children to visit military sites and have a close experience with tanks, arms and even fighter jets. Perhaps the Israelis start military training at a very early age. Building the brave fighter who will drop a 500 lb bomb on a residential area needs a lot of psychological training in his/her childhood I guess, otherwise the human part in him/her might wake up and makes the mission of burning children difficult.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
Amgad, wow, you found one picture of a kid holding a gun. How long did it take you? One second on google and you get overloaded with Arab kids holding a gun.
Unfortunately.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
These kids spent the last week in bomb shelters. Are they suppose to like Nasrallah?
July 18th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
i was speaking about a real gun an M16. nayway, for me a photo of a child holding a gun is always despicable regardless of any identity tag. Unfortunately, the Zionist do not seem to be equally shocked when they are revealed doing the same despicable acts.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Amgad, you did a poll or what? I am sure you are wrong as - so far - all of the people I know think it is despicable seeing kids with guns.
No matter what kid
July 18th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
suzanne check the many comments that focused on the wicked photgrapher and not on the indoctrination of the childre that did so. i hope and that they are not the majority and that my previous generalization is wrong
July 18th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
“IF this goes unpunished, then you are on the verge of ideologically becoming them, your enemies.”
Who you trying to kid? “Punishment”? Maybe a little scolding, a sit-down explanaiton — and that’s it. These aren’t even settlers in “occupied territories.” They’re people within their own borders of their own country.
You say they were in bomb shelters for 5 days. Doesn’t matter. If they’d been in European ghettos and concentration camps for for 5 years, you’d still pounce on this. It doesn’t end.
Hizbollah is the aggressor, Lebanon is the helpless enabler, Syria is the manipulator, Iran is the source. Those artillery shells are sources of liberation for Lebanon. G-d bless them, the soldiers who fire them, and the children who write on them.
July 18th, 2006 at 7:59 pm
Maybe I am engaging in a bit of wishful thinking, but this sounds like entrapment. I can see a journalist/photographer hungry for some good photos, talks to impressionable children who don’t have a clue that writing on shells will make for damning images. Notice that he didn’t try this with adults.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
Since when did Arabs ever think the Israelis have the moral high ground?
July 18th, 2006 at 8:29 pm
“One second on google and you get overloaded with Arab kids holding a gun.
Unfortunately.”
Does the fact that you can find Arab kids doing the same thing justify this picture?
If you say yes, your an idiot.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
> Have the Jihadies infected the Israelis or what?
The other way round. The blood-and-soil death cult - aka zionism -
came to palestine with the european jewish master race.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:42 pm
I don’t see how this is the equivalent of Hamas.
At worst, those girls want Hezbollah terrorists (whoops, sorry, “freedom fighters”) dead.
It’s not like they’re being indoctrinated to kill themselves in a suicide mission to take out as many “Aravim” as possible so they can go to “paradise” and have a coveted and special place next to Moses and 70 virgins, etc…
July 18th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
> G-d bless them, the soldiers who fire them, and the children
> who write on them.
May be the problem is not zionism, but judaism.
According to their books their bloody juggernaut helped
them to slaughter the native population more than 2000
years ago.
Now these 2000 year retards are back - together with
their insane degenerated ideology.
To be removed from space and time.
July 18th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
Israeli exception, Palestinian rule.
Need I say more SM?
July 19th, 2006 at 12:14 am
> Israeli exception
The exception is, that we see such pictures.
The rule is, our media supress everything to veil the
insane fascist character of a “jewish state” in an arab
country.
July 19th, 2006 at 4:26 am
May be the problem is not zionism, but judaism.
Now you’re talking, Adpolf!
July 19th, 2006 at 4:48 am
A cultures that cherishes life — like Judaism — is slow to take life, but once it resolves to do so — as Hezbollah has recently provoked it to do — it is the more formidable enemy. In terms of fighting spirit. That’s why the Jews of Israel win, and keep winning.
The Palestinians: pawns in ______ [Nasser's, H. Assad's, B. Assad's, Arafat's, Abu Mazen's, Haniyeh's] game.
The State of Israel: the best friend “the Palestinians” ever had.
Incredible, is it not?, to have this exchange on the eve of a historic battle….
July 19th, 2006 at 8:30 am
lol,believe me its very hard to effect Israelies. They’re cold blooded murders by nature.
What a trait;)
July 19th, 2006 at 9:06 am
“A cultures that cherishes life — like Judaism — is slow to take life, but once it resolves to do so — as Hezbollah has recently provoked it to do — it is the more formidable enemy. In terms of fighting spirit. That’s why the Jews of Israel win, and keep winning. ”
God Bless Israel.
July 19th, 2006 at 11:07 am
Amgad, I believe you to be a reasonable person
Unlike some others in this blog I feel no need to waste my energy for.
Concerning your comment:
It’s the question if those children were indoctrinated when the photographers had behaved the way they are said to have behaved.
the first reactions concerning this pictures I encountered were disbelief that kids were able to come this close to these weapons. The ones who let them, should be punished for letting them.
The second reaction was anger at the photographers - who made them -; their parents - who didn’t stop them - and the soldiers - who let them.
The third reaction was: mmm,.. with love to nasrallah is something else than a nice present from an israeli kid to a lebanese kid, e.g..
I find these logical reactions. What about you?
July 19th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Apparently the jihadis have infected the PHOTOGRAPHERS.
Scheiner should be barred from all further assignments in the region (Israel or anywhere else). NOBODY needs photographers who stage photos in order to further inflame conflicts. If he gets away with this, what will he stage next? Will he convince other kids — e.g. Palestinians — to do something stupid that gets them KILLED? It’s really easy to do that in the mideast.
Retire the guy to someplace where he can take pictures of politicians, or fire him.
Note: it is VERY COMMON for relatively calm protests e.g. in Bil’in to suddenly turn violent when the cameras show up. And it is very common to see kids doing UTTERLY stupid things in photos taken (for example) in the West Bank/Gaza. How many of those utterly stupid things were just kids being brainwashed morons, vs. kids being egged on by unscrupulous adults in the media?
This photo, and its background, gives you an indication of what is going on.
July 20th, 2006 at 10:00 pm
> A cultures that cherishes life — like Judaism — is slow to take life
Obviously it cherishes jewish lives only.
The problem that may stem from judaism - not zionism.
And - zionism is gangsterism - takes goods, homes and lives
easily and quickly from the gentile.
July 20th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
> Scheiner should be barred from all further assignments in the region
Another example of the jewish democracy - or hasbara.
And true - there would be no Israel without lying and deception.
July 21st, 2006 at 7:47 pm
SM, it’s not getting better, is it? Someone (Xeni Jardin, comment 111) gave a link re the background of how the photo was taken. You either don’t read the comments, or you chose not to put in the link to this post. I’ll do it for you then.
http://ontheface.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/7/20/2142505.html
July 21st, 2006 at 8:03 pm
ok. got you. still, you could have updated this post. anyway, I wasn’t looking further. sorry about that, still stunned by comments on your first post.
September 5th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
Sorry, but those kids were signing the missles back to one person, Nasrallah,
the gentleman who kept them out of school and in bunkers for weeks. That
has no comparison to the indoctrination of hatred of a whole people as
Hamas,Hezbollah and just about every Arab nations educational systems have
always done and still do today.