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Tuesday, 18 Jul 2006

This is fucked up

 

Hey, Israel, losing the Moral Highground quickly , are we?

Disgusting.

Congratulations, you are no better than Hamas now. You have become what you hate!

Update: Read this! 


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  1. Suzanne Says:

    Fucked up families who allow their kids to do such a thing.

  2. JordanR Says:

    Its truly sick. The only rational I can give (and its a weak one) is that these families believe the bombs are headed for terrorists, and not innocent women and children like the celebrations that take place on the streets in Gaza when civilians get suicide bombed.

    But like I said, its pretty weak rational. Damn them. I can’t believe what Israel is doing this week to its supporters.

  3. Original.Jeff@gmail.com Says:

    I was astonished at these pictures as well. Cannot believe they would let children get so close to military operations.

  4. EF3 Says:

    Hate begets hate.

  5. The Sphinx Says:

    SM, this isn’t the first time something like this happens. Check this out:

    http://www.robert-fisk.com/yusuf_progler_1999.htm

  6. Solomon2 Says:

    “To Nasrallah with love”. That seems like well-directed and focused emotion to me. They’re not out there drooling at the prospect of destroying an entire country for ideology the way Nasrallah is. And they would never be doing that at all if Israel had never been attacked, would they?

    Still, they are only children. Golda Meir said something like, “We can forgive the Arabs for killing us, but we can’t forgive them for making our children kill their children.”

  7. The Raccoon Says:

    That’s weird. How did these kids gets to the shells? I have a feeling that heads will roll in IDF because of this - it’s illegal, immoral, and dangerous.

    But yes, they are writing “to Nasrallah with love”. It’s a sentiment I share.

  8. Katherine Says:

    sand monkey what is the exact source for those pictures? I can’t quite believe them. If they are true, they are disgusting beyond belief. But what is the exact source? Just because they look original doesn’t mean they are.

    please let us know if you find out any more about those pictures, I find them deeply disturbing.

  9. Vladimir Says:

    Oh! Fuck:(

  10. Yael Says:

    WHAT THE F***?!

  11. Chip Says:

    Signing bombs goes back a long way. I had a naval MCPO sign my name on a 2,000 lb bomb to be dropped near Tora Bora.

    Sue me. That’s not the same thing as sending kids to fight in wars, act as spotters, or grow up to kill.

  12. Gary Says:

    That is disturbing that children are allowed that close. But this is more disturbing: http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html

  13. Sean Shalor Says:

    As Katherine (8) says, we need some source info.

    The original credit seems to be “Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006.(AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)”

    Why are Israeli children writing in English ?

    In the lower photo background appears to be someone in a helmet with insugnia taking a photo.

    They look just a tad contrived to me. I hope they are

  14. The Sphinx Says:

    @Sean Shalor: There are writings in Hebrew too by the way

  15. ab Says:

    This isn’t really a suprise, kids copy their parents.

    Most of us wouldn’t let our children do something like this but there are “nice sensible and tolerant” fuckups that let their beloved offspring do this while cheering them on and taking snapshots for their family album.

  16. Sean Shalor Says:

    I just wondered whether English might not have been employed to reach a “wider” audience.

    I am a little cynical. Remember those gruesome Sebastian Scheiner photos of big ugly IDF men sticking guns up the noses of charming little Palestinian girls ?

    Sometimes the camera bows to politics.

  17. Vince Says:

    If these were Palestinian kids, nobody would be asking for sources. I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first time it’s happened in Israel, like someone before said, it goes a long way back, in all countries.

  18. Amgad Says:

    Having the Zionists under heat will soon reveal their ugly face that is not much different from that of Hamas. If you like to add more balanced posts i can send you a photo i found on the BBC of a 7 years old settler in Hebron holding and learning to fire an M16, then we can speak about the whole essence of incarcerating 120,000 natives in a maze of check points and security fences so that 400 settlers can enjoy being close to their religious sites on a stolen land.

  19. Sean Shalor Says:

    Amgad
    I’m not looking for a possibility of denial - I’d always like sources to be validated where they can. With your conviction, evidence is hardly necessary since you know for sure who’s right and who your enemies are. Hezbollah are like that too.

  20. The Observer Says:

    I am speechless! This is inhuman! :(

  21. Amgad Says:

    I read an interview with one refusniks in Israel, the cousin of Benjamin Netanyahu, few days ago. Among other things he said that it is a habitual practice in Israel to take school children to visit military sites and have a close experience with tanks, arms and even fighter jets. Perhaps the Israelis start military training at a very early age. Building the brave fighter who will drop a 500 lb bomb on a residential area needs a lot of psychological training in his/her childhood I guess, otherwise the human part in him/her might wake up and makes the mission of burning children difficult.

  22. Kurt Says:

    ::sigh:: I never cease to be amazed at the fanatically pro-Israel faction in the US, especially the Christian Right; They’re almost a mirrior image of the people they despise. We (myself included) mock the way many in the Arab world distrust everything and scream “conspiracy!” at the drop of the hat, yet some of you guys are asking for verification of the photos and are saying it looks fishy. Oh, please.

    For the record, I fully support the war in Iraq and the greater GWOT but I’m sick of Israel being immune from criticism in America. They’ve finally gone too far and have lost all credibility with me.

  23. Amgad Says:

    My conviction about the cruel and inhumane face of Zionism emerged from a documentary I saw, guess where in Al Horra, a US funded channel, about the settlers in Hebron and its area. I think their filmoteca might be more accessible to you than it is to me.

  24. mindbleed » this is exceptionally fucked up Says:

    [...] SM said it. [...]

  25. Kurt Says:

    Oh, and I just caught some Evangelical Protestant on Fox & Friends telling us how it’s our “Christian duty” to support the Israeli strikes against Lebanon. To think I’ve spent all 23 years of my life unaware that supporting the bombing of Christian towns by non-Christians is part of my religious duty.

  26. Sean Shalor Says:

    Amgad
    You (or I) could just rewrite your last bit to describe the background for a suicide bomber about to unleash his filthy religious murder on unsuspecting, undeserving and completely unknown (to him) people. But so what ??

  27. Hannah Says:

    While I don’t condone this, didn’t Olmert recently request a ceasefire? And it was refused? Again, allowing children to view war as a trivial and/ or funny issue is depraved, but after you try to take a step towards a resolution and someone tells you to F* the hell off, I can see why some people may feel like Hezballah gets what it deserves.

  28. Amgad Says:

    Exactly, and that is why I believe that all religiously motivated movements claiming superiority of right of any human group are as despicable. The difference being is that the Zionist are much clever than the Islam-fascist. But in the depth they are pretty much similar. Personally, as I expressed many times, killing children and feeding them with hate and disdain for the other are unjustifiable and are as awful regardless of who perpetuates these acts.

  29. Amgad Says:

    the previous one was to Sean Shalor

  30. Israeli Guy Says:

    This goes back to the Napoleanic wars when British sailors would mark “post paid” on cannon balls. Its part of the warrior’s spirit and esprit de corps. But, at the same time, the children shouldn’t be that close to the ordinance at all, let alone be writing the messages themselves. They’re too young to be involved. Being a target at age 7 is a scary thing and plays into the quote of Golda Meir above about what we can’t forgive the Arabs for.

    At the same time, I share their sentiment - and feel horrible for children who have to face such ugly realities so young. “To Nasrallah with love.” Its focused on a man that the children know wants to hurt them (and who is launching rockets at their home). It isn’t hatred of the Lebanese people. Its hatred of the bad guy. And that is righteous hatred. Children see things more clearly than we do.

    And to those who question the provenance of the picture: its an Israeli artillery piece and the pen the girl is holding is a recognizable Israeli brand. My kids use the same pens, but not on ammunition, thank G-d. I pray we will live to see a day when children (Israeli or Arab) do not live in fear.

  31. Kurt Says:

    Amgad-

    I’m an American and I used to be a die-hard Israel-supporter (a Gentile Zionist?) until I was 20 or so. Everything I’d been told in the media was that Israel was a secular, pluralistic western-style democracy being mercilessly attacked by the evil Palestinians, etc. Then I started to slowly learn the truth.

    I still oppose terror attacks against Israeli civilians, but the situation is not nearly so black-and-white as many Americans think it is.

  32. Alex Says:

    I’m not sure what’s so upsetting about these pictures. Much less why this makes the girls equivalent to Hamas.

  33. Sean Shalor Says:

    Kurt
    “some of you guys are asking for verification of the photos and are saying it looks fishy”

    Yes. I usually look hard at the offerings from all directions and frequently find that they are staged. No single lobby has the monopoly on that

    Kurt
    “some of you guys are asking for verification of the photos and are saying it looks fishy”

    Yes. I usually look hard at the offerings from all directions and frequently find that they are staged. No single lobby has the monopoly on that.

    Amgad
    “all religiously motivated movements claiming superiority of right of any human group are as despicable.”

    Agreed. But then you make a caveat and I have to disagree; none of them are better than any other. Anybody who believes that there is a sky-god who gives him members priviledges, will do foolish things on such a basis.

  34. Amgad Says:

    to Kurt
    This always amazed me, how the biblical myths upon which the whole selection of Palestine to establish this “secular progressive state” and the cementing rule that the religion played in making one “people” from Ethiopians, Polish, Moroccans among other nations go unnoticed by the secular west.

  35. The Sphinx Says:

    Kurt, the thing is, we as Arabs get to see pictures in the media that never reach the American public. Ever. That is the sad truth that many people don’t realize.

    Personally I think that there are practically no lines between the terrorists and the Israeli regime. Both sides are on the same level of evil.

  36. The Sphinx Says:

    Alex: I seriously, sincerely hope that you’re not the type that’d let your kids do that. I really do. Because if you are, I will have to label you a starkraving lunatic. Sorry.

  37. Amgad Says:

    Sean Shalor

    Anybody who believes that there is a sky-god who gives him members privileges, will do foolish things on such a basis.

    This is wonderful i can not agree more. I will save it

  38. Kurt Says:

    Sphinx:

    I’m only afraid that sentiments in the West will get worse before they get better. I first started questioning the “Israel is always right” line when the Ann Coulter/Michelle Malkin/Debbie Schlussel crowd would gloat & cheer over the deaths of muslim civilians, even dead women and children! I thought “This is hideous. They’re acting just like the people who celebrated 9/11.”

    I just wish the political Right in America would stop hating muslims. I want muslims to have peace, freedom, and stability like everyone else. I was actually banned from an Internet forum for saying that Russia shouldn’t exterminate all the muslims in Chechnya. It makes me ashamed that these genocidal bigots call themselves Americans.

  39. Alex Says:

    The sphinx:
    Let my kids do what? What are they doing that’s so terrible? If you are worried that they are risking their life, don’t. They are much safer there than at home. Perhaps you don’t realize but there are 250,000 children sitting in bomb shelters for close to a week now, while rockets rain from above. Conflict is a constant part of life for every generation in Israel, and all kids go through it. That’s just the way it is.

  40. The Raccoon Says:

    Amgad -

    Your blind hatred is staggering in its insanity. Israel is a secular state. Jews are an ehtnicity and a religion. But you don’t give a flying fuck about truth, do you?

  41. Sean Shalor Says:

    Kurt
    I think that the Islamic fundamentalist propaganda construct of “Israel-USA-The_West” caused more concord among those nations than might otherwise have happened. When by his own designation you have a common enemy, you look more kindly on your allies. “Russia-USA-The_West” were buddy mates until WW2 ended.

    Yours was the metaphor - the mirror image of Islamic fundamentalists and the American Christian Right - as necessary to each other as Facism and Communism were during the last century.

  42. Amgad Says:

    Yes I do give a lot of attention to the truth. And I do not hate any human group. Exposing crimes committed by German does not mean that Jews insanely hate the Germans as an ethnic group, is not it?

    Would you please tell me in which other secular state that citizenship right is given based on religion or ethnicity, anything close to your law of return?

  43. Amgad Says:

    to racoon

  44. Suzanne Says:

    Saudi Arabia, Amgad

  45. The Raccoon Says:

    Amgad - any nation-state that is ethnically based (Italy, Spain, UK, Norway and that racist ilk) is based on ethinicity. Jews are the first people in history to return to their homeland after 2000 years - and yes, this is an ETHNIC homeland. Hence the law of return.

    But again, I do not think discussions with you will do any good, since your “truths” are twisted lies, it seems.

  46. Suzanne Says:

    Sorry, not a secular state :) But that’s no excuse, is it?

    But hell, guess you are unfamiliar with the fact that also as a non-Jew you can get an Israeli citizenship.

    As belonging to the Jewish nation is comparable with e.g. belonging to the Swedish nation or the French nation,.. it is not odd that you get this particular citizenship based on your Jewish backgrond. Just as a Swede can get a Swedish citizenshop and a Frenchman a French one.

  47. Amgad Says:

    As far as I know, these nation give you citizenship when you frather is a citizen i.e. has a passport. Not because your father believes in Frenchism of Swidianty.

  48. Amgad Says:

    or mother

  49. The Raccoon Says:

    Amgad - as I suspected, you’re ignoring inconvenient facts. Amazing thing, cognitive dissonance, isn’t it?

    Let me repeat it for you so that you can fail to notice it again:

    JEWS ARE AN ETHNICITY.

  50. Amgad Says:

    and how a humanbeing is defined to belong to this ethnicity? through religion, right?

  51. Jeremayakovka Says:

    It’s not disgusting at all. Israel is returning fire after years — YEARS — of Hezbollah firing rockets into her sovereign territory and aimed at civilians PRIMARILY. Now Israel launches a campaign into Lebanon — doing the job that the bitch-slapped Lebanese government can’t and won’t do — a campaign that it takes pains so that it’s not nearly as deadly to the civlian population as it could be — and you cry, “Disgusting!”

    Take your disgust to Beirut, Damascus, and Tehran — where it belongs and where it will do the most good.

  52. The Raccoon Says:

    No, Amgad. I am sure you can look up the defnitions of ethnicity yourself if you care for the truth. But then again, if you cared for the truth, you’d research Zionism yourself - not using Hamas and co. sources.

    I am also sure that if you cared enough, you’d research the complicated relationship between Jews (an ethnic group) and Judaism (a religion).

    For some obscure and mysterious reason, I have a feeling that you don’t and won’t.

  53. Jeremayakovka Says:

    C’mon, what’s are they supposed to say?
    “Hugs and kisses”? “Let’s do lunch”?

    How about:
    “I want my soliders back, NOW!”

  54. Amgad Says:

    What i got from your sources is that you use Judaism as a religion and as a label to know who of the billions of people on this earth belonged to the tribes that were evicted from Egypt and conquered Palestine 2000 years ago. These tribes after 2000 years of failed attempts to coexist with other nations decided to unit themselves and go back to the same land they grabbed by force after being expelled from Egypt and grab it by force again from those whose bad luck made them inhabit it during this time.

    I mean to sound naïve, because only naïve person would buy this divine right of the chosen people to the Promised Land story or the other one of an ethnic group that kept a unified solid identify during 2000 years of migration and therefore they most acquire a homeland at all costs.

  55. Karen Says:

    Amgad,

    The Jews went home. What is so hard to understand about that? History and archaeology prove that we were there and had a state there. HISTORY DID NOT BEGIN WITH PALESTINE.

  56. Amgad Says:

    What is so hard to understand is how the Israeli treated those who happened to live in this area for 2000 years. I would expect the enlightened Jews to go and make one state that integrates everybody from the sea to the river. Israel has been ruling this area for 40 years now.

  57. D.B. Shobrawy Says:

    I’m Really not surprised to see this at all. What made you believe that things were so P.C. in Israel to begin with?

  58. The Raccoon Says:

    Amgad - and in Israel proper, this is exactly what has happened. It’s just that there was little problem of our lovely neighbors going all Hitler on us a few times and not giving up this notion that a good Jew is a dead Jew.

    Again - if you care, RESEARCH. Read the history of Israel. Read the history of the Jewish people. Read about the wars of survival, the pogroms, the selfless struggle to make a piece of shit land bloom while being attacked from all sides.

    And if you’re talking about integrating the Palestinians… riiiiiight. Integrate the people who were created as a weapon meant to destroy us, integrate the people who vote in a party the basis of which is a genocide of the Jews. Brilliant idea!

  59. Muhannad Says:

    It’s too bad those shells have killed mostly innocents instead of Nasrallah. It’s also too bad that Arabs don’t seem to care as much when a fundie Muslim Arab loads up a group of Shia in his explosives-rigged van and detonates it. Damn the ME is a fvcked up place.

  60. tommy Says:

    I’ll use Steve Sailer’s definition of race:

    “a partially inbred extended family.”

    Jews are a race (or ethnicity, if you prefer a more PC equivalent) by this definition.

    I like this definition of race because it is flexible. A race can be defined as small as you want (the Jewish race or the Arab race) or as large as you want (the human race), and everything in-between (the Semitic race). Mutiple races just need to have some qualification of being partially inbred at some point in their histories to qualify them as a higher-level race. Furthermore, the definition doesn’t restrict a race to having a single higher level grouping.

    News:

    A moderate weighs in on the Lebanon issue:
    http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1153199442.shtml

  61. Michael in SC Says:

    Sam,

    Unfortunately, this only goes to show how quickly people rush to judge each other–even you. It’s sad to see your objectivity so badly damaged by YOUR RUSH to judgment.

    This is a time for cooler heads to prevail on both sides. Look now at your comments sections whose discord you (supposedly) so loathe. One wonders, what were you thinking? This cannot be taken back now. Nor forgotten nor rectified nor clarified nor explained. It will be forever interpreted through ones own prejudices and personal bias. It is what it is: propaganda.

    In such emotional times, please be cold and calculating with your bully pulpit or risk being used and exploit by those who are. Remember this is war. Don’t sow the seeds of hatred.

  62. CD Says:

    How many times do we here that we should not paint all muslims with the same brush? That we should not rush to judge a whole people based on the actions of a few. Now, Israel is being judged on the actions of one family. What hypocracy. This is complete BS. Now, compare that to thousands of muslims marching, chanting death to the Jews, death to Israel, shooting their Ak-47’s in the air, handing out sweets in celebration of death and murder. It’s pretty clear who has the moral high ground in this conflict.

  63. The Raccoon Says:

    But… but… CD, the pictures speak for themselves! The Jews are obviously Evil!

    Don’t confuse people with facts and reason, please.

    ;)

  64. bobby Says:

    someone should let the girl in the back know that horizontal stripes aren’t flattering …

  65. eee Says:

    > this is an ETHNIC homeland

    Aaah really?

    OK, we know that those believing in a blood-and-soil cult - that
    fascists believe such nonsense. But how did you find out, that
    it is your ETHNIC homeland?

    Did you ask the stones? Talked to the sand, caves or mother
    Gaia herself?

    How comes that people listening to your retarded crap are not
    ROTFL all the time?

  66. The Raccoon Says:

    eee -

    Wow, I am actually replying to you. But then again, you post an answerable question by mistake… I’ll answer it for the sake of the sane, not you.

    Jews know that Israel is their ethnic homeland because of tradition and history. For two thousand years, Jews would say to each other “Next year in Jerusalem!” whenever they would say their goodbyes. Stories of the land of Israel and Yehuda is what Jews are brought up on. Our legends are about Israel; our dreams are about Israel; are hopes are about Israel.

    That’s how one knows where one’s ethnic homeland is.

  67. The Atheist Jew Says:

    There is no such thing as Palestinian land, Arab land, Christian land, Jewish land, etc.

    And Arabs are tremendous hypocrites. See here.

    Israel exists as a final place of refuge for Jews anywhere on the planet who endure anti-semitism. I don’t buy the religious crap, but I know anti-semitism exists, and it existed a lot longer than Israel has existed.

  68. eee Says:

    The kids of the master race - wishing to kill arab untermenschs,
    to rob them. That’s an easy concept, easy enough to understand
    even for little girls - which are grown up made believe to be cho-
    sen - to be part of a master race.

    Zionism is a disease which destroys essential human features
    - empathy - resulting in the total absence of shame or scrupels
    when it comes to killing and robbing other defenseless people.
    Simply watch and read the insanities they write down here.

    So far the picture simply display the sociopathologia of a colonial
    master race society. Is anybody surprised? I’m not.

  69. eee Says:

    > Jews know that Israel is their ethnic homeland because
    > of tradition and history.

    I don’t care about jewish fascists, which ” c l a i m ” that.

    Everybody can claim this. Even me - for - Israel is where
    Jesus Christ was born - and I’m a christian according to
    some documents. Simply ask your insane christian zionist
    allies.

    So far - I’m ROTFL all the time learning that Palestine -
    the stones, the sand, the wells, the caves and mountains
    are “ethnically jewish”.

    Bullshit.

  70. SoCalJustice Says:

    You have become what you hate!

    Even with the worst case interpretation of these photos, that conclusion is ridiculous, S.M.

    They are not being taught to strap bombs filled with ball bearings, shards and rat poison, in order to kill themselves along with as many civilian “aravim” as possible, in order to secure a place in paradise along side the prophet and be richly rewarded with 70 virgins.

    It’s not even close.

    They want Hezbollah to be destroyed.

    So do I.

    I guess I’m no better than Hamas.

  71. Stefania Says:

    If this is directed to Hezbollah, I don’t find anything bad. Or maybe I didn’t understand what these photos are about..

  72. Mike Nargizian Says:

    WOW! A few doses of reality -

    1) Israel is not nor does it have to be PERFECT and without flaw to still have the moral high ground and not be equivalent to its fascistic enemies.

    2) AP photographers probably ran the 100 yard dash to get this picture and then put it front and center in EVERY newspaper they could. It was in my local newspaper by the way.

    3) The amount of shit the AP and Reuters photographers regualarly ignore in the Territories is purposeful and blatant. A Palestinian writer himself told me this. That’s not to mention the stuff they miss because they don’t speak Arabic and have Palestinian PLO stringers to “translate”.

    One picture of 2 Israeli girls signing missiles is not the equivalent or even in the same galaxy as to what occcurs daily in every in just about every Arab and Muslim state in the Middle East.

    5) US Military regularly sign and put messages on bombs and missiles by the way. This doesn’t make them the equivalent of Al Queda etc…

    6) There are no celebrations in Israel as in Gaza and Hamastan every time a rocket murders Jews in Israel….

    Hezbollah started this
    Hezbollah wants a ground war and is waiting and daring Israel to come in.
    Iran and Syria are hoping for one as well…..

    I understand Sam’s need to be even handed and respect it, but I feel no guilt about stating the obvious and no compunction to have to appear PC by blowing this 1 picture into astronomical proportions and preening PC gafaw at it… just because of the obvious sub human hatred taught daily on the other side.

    Mike Nargizian

  73. eee Says:

    > Israel is not nor does it have to be PERFECT

    They are perfect liars and perfect terrorists, that manage
    to control our media.
    Astonishing and perfect.

  74. Rastaman Says:

    These are the kids who have been living in terror and having their childhoods ripped off by terrorists. Signing bombs to the enemy is old hat. What do you expect from kids who are finally seeing some light at the end of the tunnel? Wouldn’t you be overjoyed? Wouldn’t you leap at the chance to do this yourself? Do you see explosive belts on these children? I have lots of pictures archived of muslim kids down to about 18 months old wearing such belts, being adjusted by THEIR MOTHERS!!! More pictures of children, even infants, having their scalps cut and blood running down their faces by THEIR MOTHERS!!! How would you like that childhood, raised from birth in pain and blood to become an atomized pink spray? What a grand future!

    You care about children? You are shocked by kids writing on bombs? Yet you have no reaction to the horrors visited on the muslim children? What kind of person have you become? All this will stop only when the carriers of this evil disease are destroyed and no sooner and it’s far more an act of love to drop bombs to put an end to it, than an act of hate, war, or even anger.

    Those kids with the Sharpies are getting an emotional release. Good! I wish the same for the muslim children. What a hell of a way to grow up, with your parents only raising you to be a walking bomb.

  75. SoCalJustice Says:

    that manage
    to control our media.

    The irony of that statement, considering the publication and dissemination of these photos, is precious.

    Sorry to have to witness your kampf.

  76. eee Says:

    > These are the kids who have been living in terror and having their childhoods ripped off by terrorists.

    Yes oh moron - jewish terrorists killed hundreds of innocent pal.
    children - obviously to make matzahs from their blood.

    Israel - the “jewish state” founded in an arab country was a
    genocidal terrorstate and is an genocidal terrorstate in 2006.

    Scum of the earth that came from europe to deport or kill the
    desparate penniless arab population. Simply that.

  77. eee Says:

    > considering the publication and dissemination of these photos

    Publication and dissemination ?

    What?

    100 Dollars for any western newspaper with this picture
    on its front.

    Will never happen. When the last suicide bomber blew
    up in Israel and a HAMAS-speaker referred to the fact,
    that the nation if beggars, thieves and murderers killed
    appr. 21 Pal. in the two weeks before, it took two hours
    until the paragraph - which simply stated that this was the
    case - vanished from our the biggest national newssite.
    Thanx to the elders of zion.

    In a recent interview a Pal. in Gaza said, that the home-
    made Qassam “rockets” didn’t kill anybody. This was
    wrong - and the elders of zion needed less than one hour
    to cause one of our mayor national newsites to add a state-
    ment that 15 were killed in three years - exactly the amount
    of people that jewish fascists kill in one or two weeks on
    average.

    But the same newssite never ever referred to the undebated
    massacres of jewish fascists commited on leb. refugees in the
    south of Lebanon three or four days ago - again thanx again
    to the elders of zion, that control our media.

    Lying for Israel - to please jewish fascists - is absolutely com-
    mon in the western media - common thanx to the elders of zion.

  78. andre Says:

    What people like my anti-semitic fellow poster above forgets is that these missiles are aimed at TERRORISTS. Killlers. War instigators. I’d have no problem signing them, getting my kids to sign them or shooting them myself without loosing the “moral superiority”. War is not immoral when you are fighting people like Nasrallah.

  79. Cadavre Says:

    I think Israelis are people that certian communities in Russia, New Jersey and New York did not and do not want.

    Send to the the Rabbinacle Convertion Factories.

    Israeli INS: So your from Russia. What Religion are you?
    Russian or New Jersey Guy: I don’t know, what is a religion?
    Israeli INS: Forget it, why do your want to emmigrate to Israel?
    Russian or New Jersey Guy:The police want me in my village for having sex with dead Filipinos.
    Israeli INS: Have you ever considered having sex with a dead Palestinian Boy?
    Russian or New Jersey Guy: Is that a trick question?
    Israeli INS: No, it’s a “real” question.
    Russian or New Jersey Guy: I must must admit, I have thought about sex with a dead Palestinian child.
    Israeli INS: Wonderful, Rabbi, punch this guys card, bless him as chosen, and send him into Gaza.
    Russian or New Jersey Guy: Is that it?
    Israeli INS: No, here are some handgrenades, a map to some Mosques and lubricated condoms - have fun!

  80. john Says:

    right andre, but since now, those weapons have been killing more innocent people - childrens, mothers, sisters, brothers, even canadian citizen - than members of the hezbollah

    according to your opinion, you must call it colateral damage. i call it a disaster…

    the israeli image worldwide is slowly but surely (and worse: silently)becomming catastrophic

  81. SoCalJustice Says:

    Lying for Israel - to please jewish fascists - is absolutely com-
    mon in the western media - common thanx to the elders of zion.

    eee, i guess it’s time for you to crank up those ovens again.

    why don’t you catch a rat, burn it, and pretend it’s a jew?

    you know, for old time’s sake.

  82. SoCalJustice Says:

    But the same newssite never ever referred to the undebated
    massacres of jewish fascists commited on leb. refugees in the
    south of Lebanon three or four days ago - again thanx again
    to the elders of zion, that control our media.

    Wow. I guess I knew there were nazis still around, I just didn’t know they could type.

    Here’s something that might shock you.

    American newspapers probably won’t put the picture of kids writing words on bombs on the front page.

    Why? Because the elders of zion conspiracy decided to lead with photos of utter devastation and destruction wreaked by the IDF against Beirut.

    A newspaper, you probably call “The Jew York Times” has, on it’s front page, right now, this photo of a totally bombed out Beirut neighborhood:

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060719/photos_ts/2006_07_18t152614_450×300_us_mideast

    And the NY Times caption states “Israeli warplanes battered Lebanon on Tuesday, killing at least 31 people.”

    31 people. Not Hezbollah - but people.

    But have fun goosestepping.

  83. Marc Country Says:

    “Israeli Warplanes Battered Lebanon on Tuesday, Killing at Least 31 People”

    31 people. Not Hezbollah - but people.

    Exactly. These girls wrote their messages on bombs that, in reality, won’t do much to Hezbollah, but will most certainly kill innocent PEOPLE, that much you can be sure of… including cute little ignorant girls, just like them. Ironic.

    No, wait… make that moronic.

    With all the insults of ‘goosstepping’ and whatnot, I take it you nitwis aren’t familiar with Godwin’s law… basically, if you called another commenter a Nazi, you just lost your credibility, and your argument… and, quite likely, your rational mind.
    Sorry!

  84. Cadavre Says:

    SoCalJustice(Sounds like the Southern Poverty Law Center - and we know what them twinkies have been up too).

    Instead of whining an exorcising your cultivated inferiority complex or star to cry wolf - look across the sea - how many times has Israel cried wolf? IAF bombs Iraqi Power Plant same IAF pilot vaporises over Palestine Texas. Look at how many times wold has been cried - and now - the wolf - is at the door.

    Without boring you about the WZO and Balfour (and the millions in lives and billion is ilost treasure that resulted). Before I wail about the wicked Ashkenazi Jew, Trotsky, a death engineer - 60 Million genocided, silently, between the grat wars as if it never happened. Before we speak of the Nazi ship, “Tel Aviv”, and the Nazi marks and the Nazi machine tools that sailed for Palestine in 1938. Before we speak about how the Zionists betrayed the Disapora. Before I wail about the insanity of a slogan straight from the bowells of a dark age dominion heresy, “We are the only chosen people”. Before I go into that and put a liitle more puss in your boils to cry about, let me share the words of the modern and just high priests of the Jewish state, a gift from the world.

    My friends, words of the scholarly chosen:
    “We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

    “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” Israel Koenig, “The Koenig Memorandum”

    “It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

    “We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not…You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.” (Chaim Weizmann, Published in “Judische Rundschau,” No. 4, 1920)

    “God bless you. God bless our men and women serving on the frontlines today. And God bless our special relationship between the United States of America and the State of Israel.”
    (Nancy Pelosi, April 1, 2003)

    “We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

    Ear SoCal - Quite whining like a girl wearing cotton panties - accept the obvious truth - something has happened to Judea - it’s like back in the dark ages again - the old stories - the old myths - thats all they are.

    I fear your denial and waste in lament will probably be the real assissin of Judaism. Your compacency and reliance on an unproductive pattern of responses to this very ugly reality are disconcertin.

    The wolf is at the door - truth - and absolution through reconcilaiation are the only things that will save Israel, and perhaps even the rest of Judea as well. The big booms give a false impression. Israel will not win this by might. Israel risks her own peril with that fatal arrogance/

    Peace

  85. Ohoud Says:

    They didnt become anything. They’ve always been pioneers in killing and butchering.

    Welcome to an eye opener:)

  86. SoCalJustice Says:

    Marc Country:

    Umm, Godwin’s Law doesn’t apply for commentators who start throwing around the “Elders of Zion” and get into paranoid fantasies about Jews controlling the media.

    It’s not a shield for Nazis. It’s meant to apply to people and conversations having NOTHING to do with anti-Semitism, fascism and white supremacism.

    Not that this explanation of reality will sway you, because you seem to be fully up in there with the knuckledragging mouthbreathers. But hey, whatever.

    You badly need a clue, though.

    Cadavre,

    I’m not with the Souther Poverty Law Center, but since they take on Nazis and other white supremacists - good for them.

    But right back at you.

    You write: “Without boring you”

    Too late.

  87. Cadavre Says:

    Dear Southern Poverty Law SoCalJustice guy

    The Southern Policy Law Center is the executive division of Columbines Trench Coat Mafia - they’re Jewish Supremists and are involved in the Oklamhoma bombing - and who knows what else.

    “We are the only chosen people” is the slogan of White Supremacist - the Israel Ashkenazi white supremacist. No relation to Abraham, an Iraqi - a semite - Just the descendants of a a bunch of cowards, who in 784 AD, converted to Judiasm so the Islamic warriors would spare their Miserable cowardly lives!

    Get your facts straight cry baby and start speaking from your heard - your pretense at “intellectual dialog” is the monster you should fear.

    Your momma should have taught you survival - instead she taught to to behave like a whimpering school girl. Mosada bait is what you’ve become - a glorified suicidal.

    Everything you say is a cliche!

  88. SoCalJustice Says:

    OH KAY.

    Wow.

    Not that you care, but this was my favourite part: “they’re Jewish Supremists and are involved in the Oklamhoma bombing.”

    I will say this, considering your ranting paranoia, I am impressed that you’re able to do even minimally challenging tasks like flipping the on-switch of electrical devices.

    I guess chromosomal definciency isn’t as debilitating as I’ve previously read.

  89. SoCalJustice Says:

    Just the descendants of a a bunch of cowards, who in 784 AD, converted to Judiasm so the Islamic warriors would spare their Miserable cowardly lives!

    a) that doesn’t make sense; especially considering who’s ass has been handed to them in the Middle East since 1948
    b) i bet you are a really, really brave person, right there in your basement wearing your cheeto-stained wife-beater.

    You sound really, really tough.

    Pathetic.

    Funny, yes.

    But pathetic.

  90. The Raccoon Says:

    “I guess chromosomal definciency isn’t as debilitating as I’ve previously read. ”

    LOL :D

  91. The Raccoon Says:

    Can I use this one, Justice, with your premission? :)

  92. dahvid Says:

    Israelis have been murdered and maimed by islamic bombs, and what was written on them? Recall that the islamic terrorists target young women, babies, women, pregnant womem, in ruthless savage attacks.

    The first thing that comes to mind is the recent kidnapping attempt by islamic sandmonkey scum of young Israeli girls, perhaps those in the picture. We can only imgaine the fate of those girls had the kidnapping been successful, and the nature of the snuff films that the morally superior sandnig…uh..monkeys would have produced to taunt the girl’s families.

    Who knows, maybe the girls writing on the bombs have had family members killed, maimed, kidnapped, desecrated, or whatever the hell.

    Jews are people too. They feel sorrow and anger and rage just like the rest of the holier than thou fakes of this world who hold Jews to a higher standard. They compare a girl writing on a bomb destined for a military target in self defense to terrorists who abduct innocents and film their horrible primitive death for all to see, as little sandmonkey children gleefully play with the desecrated corpses.

    Or what about the young sandmonkeyette who, after receiving medical treatment in an Israeli hospital, planned a homicide bomb attack on that same hospital!

    Those who criticize Israel here, have been befre this picutre was published, and will continue to do so no matter what the circumstances. They are the haters, they are the sandgoons whoose perverted maniacial hatred has twisted even young Jewish girls.

    Oh my gosh! See those Israeli girls who are angry, tsk, tsk! Perhaps they are the spirit reincarnated of Anne Frank, or the millions upon millions of Jewish girls who died horrible deaths by nazis and aided by the sandmonkey ss unit.

    Drawing a moral equivalency to a propaganda tool used by terrorist to justify and gain public support for their outrage. Therefore, this website, sandmonkey.org, is offically a terrorist pandering, antisemitic website, this media smear will not be forgotten.

    Let’s be clear about the facts:

    Israel is on the side of good and the islamists are purely evil, which is evident from the world events for example:

    - Israel withdrew citizens from large swaths of territory such as gaza to appease the sandmonkeys.

    - The islams respnd by kidnapping soldiers, innocent civilians, and then desecrate their bodies for their snuff film industry.

    - The soverign state of Israel was attacked by military from Lebanon, and soldiers were abducted.

    _ Islamic terrorists regimes are responsible for the unfortunate fate of innocent Lebanese civilians caught in the middle by Israel’s response.

    - Israel clearly wants peace and has taken painful setps to appease the sand creatures who operate on the lowest most vile level know to human kind.

  93. dahvid Says:

    This is fucked up:

    Two children killed in Katyusha rocket strike on Nazareth

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/740309.html

    No wonder the children are writing on bombs, they are being murdered. Note that in the above story, the dead children are Israeli arabs, and who nows, maybe the girls in the picture are Israeli arabs.

    this is a fucked-up website, supporting the bombing of children and ridiculing them for hating their killers…and standing firm behind the sandscum terrorists

  94. Cadavre Says:

    Dear SoCal:
    Is that your best cliched “ourage”, my friend?

    Now wonder Judea declines and Jews have become a hate word when the world “spits” thier name.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center was part and parcel of those two Jewish boy-brats caught a few months back burning down Southern Christian Churches.

    That news did not make it to main stream - I guess the media knws when we have enough information to call a spade a spade.

    While we suffered the unconstitutional treatment of Jose Padilla - an American - locked away from his family and lawyer just because he got off an airplane that departed from Egypt, we endure the hypocracy of Nuclear Detonator smuggler, Ashner Karni, a Jew - an Israeli - who - once arrested - was allowed to lounge in the luxury of his Rabbis Maryland home and had all his lawyers on speed dia. Karni was nabbed falsifying a manifest to smuggle detonators to Pakistan - the real destination was probably another non-NPT country - India.

    Padilla was nabbed for being a brown Muslim on a plane from Egypt - a-hole! Padilla was an American.

    Where is your outrage at tthe knowledge that the airpports the alleged highjackers departed from were all operated by Isralei Security Companies?

    Where is your outrage that despite the ruse of Dubbai Port - US national security networks and air traffic control systems are maintained and overseen by Israel Companies (MITRE and PTEC)?

    Don’t you see - all these Jews on TV - 55% in the CLinton White House - 35% in the Bush Whites House - while less than 2% of Americans are Jewish. If Jews are a race - be it either the whitie Ashkenazi (95%) - or the brownie semites living as refugees in Syria, Iran, Jordan and Palestine - where is the logical outrage at the failure of “affirmative action”.

    Why all these Jews every fucking where? It it because they are chosen? Are they smarter prettier than Goyim - Hell no - they are Goyim - they just go to a Jewsih Church. We’re being Jew baited - big time - we’re being cultivated to assure the poor arrogant Jew takes the fall and suffers the brunt of our anger when this engineered fabrication comes falling down - and you - my dear SoCal - are just another twiity whiner being used to to bait the mobs hate for the Jew when the reckoning comes. You’re being - as we all are - by the midas nobility - the dark prices of BIG OIL and BIG WAR - and you - you my dear SoCal whimp on like the idiot cheerleader you have been trained to be - to provide cover for them. They will bick the gold from your teeth as your corpse rots in the righteous puss pool at the end of your ineffective and wimpering life. Your story - a righteous whine who took the rap for arich people that don’t give a shit about the Jew!

    You - SoCal - not the sandn_ggers - not whitie - but you - and other ignorant evangelicals are the ones destroying Israel and Judea - you’re too stupid to enjoy the privilege of a church or a nation - bad,vain, sorriful, pussified care takers of a body of knowledge, ethics and ideas (Judaism) that your, and our, ancestors sacrifced so much to cultivate and preserve. And it all comes to an end because pussies like you ain’t got the soul, guts or intelleigence to protect it. Your heritage is not Israel or Zionism, my frien,- your heritage is Judea - and you, my friend - have failed your ancestors. Failed your responsiblities as both a human and a Jew. You’re more ignorant than the dumbest Christian Evangelical I have ever met - at least their plan is moving ahead - the final tribulation and destruction of Judea - and what do you do? You sit around and ask if your new disco shirt makes you look fat! A vain little pimp bait!

    You whining wimp - how dare you call anyone a racist - I cam smell the sh-t oozing from the severed instestines of Palestinian children even this far from that cat box - our first Jones Town of the Milleniem - Israel! Save Judea - screw Israel. What is what is destroying Judea - not a bunch of racist goyim - you Jew baiting simp - save your church a-hole - the wolf is at the door - the final tribulation is at hand - and a bunch of dumbed down christian evangelicals salivate as they wait for a bunch of dumbed down Jewish evangelicals in Israel to provide their “long awaited” dessert of “Rapture” - the “vaporizing of unrepentent Jewish souls in the Flames of Israel”. Your enemy twerpy girl - is your arrogant ignorance and self hatred - not the convienent so-called goyim racist the settlement and holocaust industries have brain washed you to bait with your feeble wimperings.

    Where is the Jew in you - why do you behave as a blind looser - instead of the wise and just Jew that once graced our ancestors? Where is your humanity - your manhood - your pride - your common sense - your f-cking Jewishness - your outrage at the criminals who have usurped your Judea - the worlds Judea? Haw many shekles are jingleing in your pockets from the hate your ignorance, fear and lazyness have festered?

    Where is the wisdom of the Jew when it is most needed?

    What has happened? Can you not see this reality: It’s the end of Israel - and maybe the end of Judea - and yet you “bait” on with the wimpers of an ignorant school girl - waiting for the next queue from her “trainer”.

    SoCal - The dead know one thing - it is better to be alive.

    Peace my friend - may you find the courage and wisdom of the Jew before Judea is destroyed.

    PS - Sorry I had to “Dr. Phil” you - but if got any balls at all - you would be ringing the bells at the Synagogue - and screaming at the top of your lungs. Jews should take care of the criminality in their church - if they don’t - if Jews force the goyim to break up the criminality -