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Wednesday, 19 Jul 2006
A Hezbollah rocket attack on the northern town of
Nazareth killed two Israeli Arab children, brothers aged 3 and 9, on
Wednesday afternoon, bringing to 16 the death toll from rocket strikes
since the crisis in Lebanon began a week ago.Another 12 people sustained light wounds in the attack, and were evacuated to the Italian Hospital in the town.
The
two siblings were killed by a direct hit from a rocket while playing on
the street, the Israel Defense Forces said. It was the first attack on
the town.
The definition of Irony!
July 19th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
That’s so sad.
Scott Wilson wrote, what now appears to be a rather prophetic article, in the Washington Post the other day:
In Nazareth, Arab Israelis Now at Risk
Rockets Fall Near City Long Seen as Off-Limits
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/17/AR2006071701420.html
July 19th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
It’s not wrong when Arabs kill fellow Arabs. Don’t be silly! /sarcasm
July 19th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Now if they were Jews, though, it would have been absolutely dandy… right, Ariya?
July 19th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
You’re the only blogger who’s discussed this so far. I left a comment on Angry Arab’s blog and it was deleted. Niki (Jarrar’s gf) wouldn’t let me post it.
July 19th, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Check this
http://www.fromisrael2lebanon.com
July 19th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
No SM, not irony. It’s simply wrong. Hizbullah and the rest of the nutjobs simply don’t care who they kill. Peace is a foreign word, one they do not comprehend.
Israel should pound on Hizbullah even more now. Not because the kids were arab. But because they were kids. Israel’s job is to defend its citizens, *ALL* its citizens against attack.
My understanding is that due to the proximity to the border, most of the northern towns, regardless of who lives there, get very little warning. The missles are often traveling several hundred kilometers per hour, and can cover the distance between the border and the northern towns in seconds. I saw MSNBC last night and the folks in Haifa get less than 60 seconds warning for incoming missles. The folks near the border simply don’t have time to even get an alarm sounded.
Also read this morning that the IDF budgeted all of its bomb shelter money for the south, as thats where most of the threat previously existed.
Nice life these people live, eh?
July 19th, 2006 at 8:26 pm
I’m sure they were killed by another hebrew lynchparty -
aka the IDF.
For the hebrews have a disease that forces them to lie all
the time - zionism - , there’s no doubt that they killed the
boys - like the other 700 pal. children they murdered in the
past for their traditional blood-matzahs.
July 19th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
eee-
“I’m sure they were killed by another hebrew lynchparty -
aka the IDF.”
You’re right, Israel is the one that started the invasion on Yom Kippur, right? Oh, and the IDF saunters into pizza stores and blows up civilians? To the best of my knowledge, Israel recently request a cease-fire, didn’t they? And yet Hezballah refused… but *we’re* the lynchparty?
“For the hebrews” you’re seriously going to say ‘hebrews’ with a straight face? Where are we? The Bible? “have a disease that forces them to lie all
the time - zionism - ,” no, Zionism is not wanting to be killed by people simply because you’re Jewish. It’s feeling that we, too, have a right to exist, and not giving a flying fig what other groups think of that “there’s no doubt that they killed the boys -” there’s no doubt? I doubt it, the father has doubts, and lays blame equally among all parties, as he should! “like the other 700 pal. children they murdered in the past for their traditional blood-matzahs.”
“blood-matzahs”? I’m actually really glad you said that, because I didn’t think anyone still believed that insanity, but you do! Great, so if there’s blood in our matzah, why isn’t it red? Additionally, we’re not allowed to eat blood, how do you think kashrut got around that for matzah? *WHY* would we put blood in our matzah? Why Palestinian blood? Do we like a particular blood type, for example, I’m O+, do I need to only eat O+ matzah? I think you may have read “The Protocals” a few too many times. Nice conspiracy theories though. Very creative.
July 19th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
> Israel is the one that started …
It’s a gangster state - built on fraud and ethnic cleansing right
from the ” s t ar t ” - i.e. it has no right to exist.
> Zionism is not wanting to be killed …
Zionism is a disease and a thuggish racist cult that worships in
arab blood and soil since more than a century.
> I didn’t think anyone still believed that insanity, but you do!
No - I simply watch the happy uniformed pogromists from the
IDF killing pal. and leb. children without shame or scruples.
Making matzahs from their blood - see any other motivation?
> Additionally, we’re not allowed to eat blood
Aaaah, since when did you stop with that?
> *WHY* would we put blood in our matzah?
I don’t know - I’m not a jewish fascist living in Israel.
Perhaps it’s a traditional thing - may be folkloristic?
> I’m O+, do I need to only eat O+ matzah?
From my obserservations I’d say - you digest any gentile blood
type - blood from christian to muslim pal. or leb. blood, amnesian
blood - Rachel Corrie - british blood - Tom Hurndall etc..
> “The Protocalsâ€
The title was changed to “a clean break to secure the realm”
and the name of the elders are very well known.
July 20th, 2006 at 6:06 am
Definition of tragedy SM, definition of tragedy. Whenever children are killed it is simply a tragedy.
July 20th, 2006 at 10:32 am
eee….
Tell me somthing: with the kind of thoughts that dribble day after day from your darkened mind, can you explain to me why it is you read sandmokey.org? surely the rantings of an enlightened fellow muslim should be too much for a propaganda fed individual such as yourself. your tired language of the middle ages/middle east would be better suited to a Maus-like cartoon strip. If you’re looking for cartoonists to help you with the project, i know one or two in Denmark.
btw sandmonkey, i only just recently discoverd your site. sincerest thanks.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
eee,
Look, just because you have a disturbed, disgusting imagination, doesn’t mean any of the rest of us do. You can argue that you disagree with Israeli politics, fine, that’s up for debate, but people like you who view us as less than human are the reason there are conflicts like this. You hide behind ignorant recycled ideas. Someone tells you something, and instead of talking to a Jew, or observing our practices (hell, you can take a TOUR of a matzah factory you know) you just assume that you’re right. Have you considered that people who tell you these things have their own agenda? That maybe they want to use you for something? Maybe it serves their purpose for you to hate us, less than it could ever serve your own.
Of course, I am not foolish enough to believe that my words will change you. That you will consider that Israelis, flawed though they are, are really just like you and anyone else. That would be a leap of faith. It would also mean that you get up and actually do your own research, and I don’t have enough faith in you for that.
It’s a shame. I bet you were probably born a fairly normal person, but it’s warped minds like yours now that cause conflicts like this. You can’t be bothered to actually consider that what you’re saying is false, you just let whoever told you this pour garbage down your throat, and you sit back and thank them like a fool.
May G-D bless and keep you, far away from me.
July 20th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Eee
You look like an idiot for the rest of the world. I’m not arabs nor jews. You look like a kid who still thinks there are monsters in his bedroom.
Anyway, I wish peace for Lebanon and Israel. I sincerily hope Lebanon will be able to free itself from foreign influences wherever it comes from.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
Hannah, save your breath. Surely you’ve seen the books they raise the Arab/muslim schoolchildren with. In actual fact it’s kind of handy having eee on this site. It gives the rest of us insight into the mind of the anti-Israeli mindset . Unbridled fury ,venom, anger and frustration but he doesn’t know why. It doesn’t matter, blame the Jews, blame America, sorry Amnesia, ooooI’m so angry , I’m just going to call people names . I have the anonymity of the internet so nobody can get me. Yeah you’re areal trooper eee, carry on.
July 20th, 2006 at 9:20 pm
> can you explain to me why it is you read sandmokey.org?
Too watch racists and idiots.
> surely the rantings of an enlightened fellow muslim should be
> too much for a propaganda fed individual such as yourself.
The “enlighted” shows, that you belong to the idiots.
> your tired language of the middle ages/middle east would be
> better suited to a Maus-like cartoon strip.
The racists don’t come from the middle ages, they come from
the bronze-age. Ultra retards that hijacked our media and the
bribable american government - milked billions from them
to erect their fascist jewish fantasy-world in an arab land.
Cartoons? You must be Goofy then.
July 20th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
> just because you have a disturbed, disgusting imagination, doesn’t
> mean any of the rest of us do.
Well, when I need some inspiration in insane sadism, then watching
you in Israel is always a very good starting point.
> You can argue that you disagree with Israeli politics, fine, that’s
> up for debate
I don’t disagree - because that would mean that there is something
legitimate in Israel - something to agree with the only jewish “je-
wish-only” society based on ethnic cleansing.
But there is nothing to agree with.
> but people like you who view us as less than human are the
> reason there are conflicts like this.
It’s exactly the other way round. The idea, that a jewish state
in an arab land is something to be considered - that idea is
inevitably connected with jewish supremacism - with the idea
that other people - arabs - are less than human.
I would call it a projection.
> You hide behind ignorant recycled ideas.
Do have a mirror at home?
> Someone tells you something, and instead of talking to a Jew, or
> observing our practices (hell, you can take a TOUR of a matzah factory
> you know) you just assume that you’re right.
Seems you missed that: I’m not literally assuming such nonsense, I
watch the hard facts instead.
I listened - for example - to one of your pogromists yelling - “She’s
older than eleven? Is she older than eleven?” - and then executing
Iman Hams - 14 years. And there are hundreds of cases.
But you - I bet - never feel ashame - not for a pico-second because
you don’t care for other - not jewish - people or kids. And that’s the
result of your zionist “education”.
> Have you considered that people who tell you these things have their
> own agenda? That maybe they want to use you for something? Maybe it
> serves their purpose for you to hate us, less than it could ever
> serve your own.
It should better ask Craig here. I’m not an idiot.
> Of course, I am not foolish enough to believe that my words will
> change you.
Oh, at least I see, that you’re not a plain old racist asshole like
some other non-stop posters here.
> That you will consider that Israelis, flawed though they are, are
> really just like you and anyone else. That would be a leap of faith.
> It would also mean that you get up and actually do your own research,
> and I don’t have enough faith in you for that.
Nice demand on me - tomorrow I will meet some jewish and arab kids.
But perhaps they - the jewish kids - are not in the blood-matzah
business? Who knows?
Besides joking - I have this one for you:
“That you will consider that arab pal., flawed though they are, are
really just like you and anyone else. That would be a leap of faith.
It would also mean that you get up and actually do your own research,
and I don’t have enough faith in you for that.”
> It’s a shame. I bet you were probably born a fairly normal person,
> but it’s warped minds like yours now that cause conflicts like this.
Zionism is “y o u r” disease but I doubt that you are the excecption
here to recognize that.
> You can’t be bothered to actually consider that what you’re saying
> is false, you just let whoever told you this pour garbage down your
> throat, and you sit back and thank them like a fool.
Projection again - I’d say.
> May G-D bless and keep you, far away from me.
How pathetic.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:19 pm
eee-
“Well, when I need some inspiration in insane sadism, then watching
you in Israel is always a very good starting point.”
Because we hide behind rocks and shoot at small children on a schoolbus? Oh! Or maybe because we actually warned the citizens before we bombed?
“> You hide behind ignorant recycled ideas.
Do have a mirror at home?”
No, but I do have a spell checker.
“> Someone tells you something, and instead of talking to a Jew, or
> observing our practices (hell, you can take a TOUR of a matzah factory
> you know) you just assume that you’re right.
Seems you missed that: I’m not literally assuming such nonsense, I
watch the hard facts instead.”
Clearly not if you’re stating this racist nonsense over and over again. Or, maybe when faced with the fact that Jews really aren’t so bad, you switch positions so as not to show that your point was wrong.
“something to agree with the only jewish “je-wish-only†society based on ethnic cleansing”
You mean like Druze who live your imaginary Jewish only state? Hey don’t they vote? And didn’t they request to serve in the army, which they now do? They’re not Jewish… not to mention the Christians who live there. Hmmm, for a “Jewish only” state, we’re pretty integrated.
“The idea, that a jewish state in an arab land is something to be considered - that idea is inevitably connected with jewish supremacism - with the idea
that other people - arabs - are less than human.”
I am JEWISH and I am TELLING YOU that we don’t consider Arabs (Muslim or otherwise) to be less than human. You are the only one here who actually thinks that. Look around, who here has posted anything along those lines, other than yourself. Find me some quotes of Jews saying you are less than human. Jews don’t think they’re superior, we just want the other countries to stop bombing us. Clearly we don’t have issues with Islam, if the Druze are in the army. It’s just people who want to kill us.
“But you - I bet - never feel ashame - not for a pico-second because
you don’t care for other - not jewish - people or kids.”
No, I don’t feel ashamed. I feel angry that atrocities like the one you refer to could happen. I think it’s horrible, and the person involved should be ashamed, but I also would remind you that were Hezballah not threatening both Israel and America, then this situation wouldn’t be happening. Furthermore, there have been plenty of murders of Israeli kids. Did you feel ashamed at that? Do you feel ashamed that your anger and hate causes situations like this that puts girls like that in danger? No one wants civilians, let alone children, to be hurt, but it’s very difficult to deal with people like you when all you want to do is hate something, anything, without thought or reason.
“I’m not an idiot.”
………right.
“> You can’t be bothered to actually consider that what you’re saying
> is false, you just let whoever told you this pour garbage down your
> throat, and you sit back and thank them like a fool.
Projection again - I’d say.”
Actually, projection, for those of you who choose to use psychological terms without actually knowing what they are, is if I said that you actually wanted to hear the other person’s side, but he was so busy trying to make you seem less than human, that you could neither hear, nor debate him. See, that is projection, I have a feeling (because I am human) and I project that feeling or need onto the other person. Furthermore, leveraging off of my argument to say something along the lines of “I’m rubber, you’re glue” doesn’t really present an adult debate, so much as it makes me think that you just can’t argue decently.
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:32 pm
> Because we hide behind rocks and shoot at small children on a schoolbus?
You typically “hide” in watchtowers, tanks, helicopters or jets when killing
small children.
> Oh! Or maybe because we actually warned the citizens before we bombed?
Yeah, we saw that in Marwaheen and multiple times in Gaza.
> Clearly not if you’re stating this racist nonsense over and over again.
It’s not racism, that you kill arab pal. children - it’s a fact.
> Or, maybe when faced with the fact that Jews really aren’t so bad, you
> switch positions so as not to show that your point was wrong.
I never switched a single bit of my “position” here - and I’m not going
to claim that “the jews are bad” generally, despite the fact that all I
found here so far are not bad - they’re worse.
> You mean like Druze who live your imaginary Jewish only state? Hey don’t
> they vote? And didn’t they request to serve in the army, which they now do?
> They’re not Jewish… not to mention the Christians who live there.
> Hmmm, for a “Jewish only†state, we’re pretty integrated.
As I promised - you’re stuck into the racist lies - the israeli narrative -
of your ethnically cleansed country.
> I am JEWISH and I am TELLING YOU that we don’t consider Arabs (Muslim or
> otherwise) to be less than human.
You lied at me already two times here. Starting with the attempt to evade
the fact that you live in a terrorist state that deliberately kills civilians,
then with the attempt to evade the fact that your state was created by ethnic
cleansing by referring to a tiny minority like the Druze.
(Why did’nt you refer to the bedouins? Because your “jewish only” state
robs and deports them in the Negev, to provide more room for you - the
master race?)
So your statement above has zero credibility.
> You are the only one here who actually thinks that.
Yes, I’m not part of the master race - and if I were - I would leave Israel.
> Find me some quotes of Jews saying you are less than human.
First: I’m not arab or muslim - I’m not part of the game - I’m an observer
only, but paying with my taxes for the insanity of a “jewish democracy”.
Second: You’re lying again - no need for a conscious oberserver to “proove”
the im- and explicite herrenmenschen mentality of zionism.
> It’s just people who want to kill us.
Yes, and you have no clue why - because you and your state are innocent as
a newborn.
> No, I don’t feel ashamed. I feel angry that atrocities like the one you
> refer to could happen.
Aaah, they “could happen”. But you - your state based on racism and ethnic clean-
sing bears zero responsibility - you’re innocent - at least - likely the victim?
That’s what I’m saying. You are simply a sick narcistic person that feels
zero empathy with persons from other groups - a person that lives in a gangster
state at the expense the “others”, that never feels responsible for its own
- of its society - crimes and always manages to scapegoat its victims.
> it’s very difficult to deal with people like you when all you want to do
> is hate something, anything, without thought or reason.
Again - the “innocent newborn” syndrome - typical symptom of zionism.
> See, that is projection, I have a feeling (because I am human) and I pro-
> ject that feeling or need onto the other person.
Wrong it seems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
> Peter Gay describes it as “the operation of expelling feelings or wishes the
> individual finds wholly unacceptable - too shameful, too obscene, too dangerous
> - by attributing them to another.”
You are obviously a racist - but don’t want to be one - making you looking
nicer than the usual splatter zionist - thus create a lot of rationalisations
for your racism - finally project it on me or “the arab”.
> Furthermore, leveraging off of my argument to say something along the lines
> of “I’m rubber, you’re glue” doesn’t really present an adult debate, so much
> as it makes me think that you just can’t argue decently.
As others observed - Israel is not an adult - it’s an immature thug.
A spoiled brat that believes that its actions will never have any
bad consequences - what is true so far, because big mama - the US -
protects you even when you killed the daughter or son of the neighbour.
July 24th, 2006 at 1:03 pm
eee,
I never said Israel was utterly innocent, every group of people makes its mistakes, but you still can’t seem to find a point where any Jew on this site says that we are superior to any other group of people. Why? Because there is none. Because this superiority complex lives only in your mind. I won’t argue against the fact that atrocities have been committed on both sides, but read the BOTH sides. You can’t find Jews on here saying we are better than anyone else, because that’s not what we believe, just that we’re equal. As for not being able to feel empathy, as you so accuse me, if you read what I wrote I said that no one wants civillians to die, and that includes me. No, I don’t feel “guilty” when someone who happens to be Jewish does something I disagree with, because I didn’t do it… but then again, for someone who is so accusation happy, you never answered that *you* feel ashamed when Israeli kids die. You seem to be quite happy to watch these children of a “brat” and “thug” state be killed. So I’m a racist? I at least talk to you, and don’t call you names. I try to establish a dialogue, while your arguments are based on “blood-matzah” and demonizing Israel, which leads one to believe that you simply can’t create a legitimate argument if you have to resort to name calling and “I’m rubber, you’re glue” statements. You seem have this need to believe that Israel is some evil power, that Jews believe we’re superior, regardless of the fact that I have told you we don’t feel that way and then asked you to support your position, which you still haven’t. Israel has made mistakes, but no more or less than any other country in that region. So who are you to say that Israel believes its actions “will never have any bad consequences”? Maybe if other countries got their acts together so that problems like Hezballah didn’t happen, then Israel wouldn’t have to get involved when it starts digging tunnels into Israeli land and shooting missiles into Haifa.