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Sunday, 5 Nov 2006
Saddam is finally sentenced to death, alongside his brother and the head of the revolutionary court.
Wohooooooooooooooo………
Now excuse me while I do my little "Saddam is going to die" dance. It's going to be this much sweeter knowing that Raed is upset about it, because he thinks Saddam is getting this sentence as part of a "republican October surprise". Not that Saddam is a despiciable Butcher or anything; it's all part of Bush's nefarious plan (How could Bush be so smart and so dumb at the same time? Anyone know?). It makes sense that Mr. Saddam is our national leader is all upset about it, after all, Saddam took care of his family's palestinian ass on the expense of the average Iraqi. So I am glad his death sentence pisses him off. It's like a Bonus.
What a great start to the day!
Update: It's November 5th. The 5th of November? "Remember, Remember, the 5th of November", anyone? Am I the only one amused by this? Shit, I will remember this day forever!
Update: Rampurple never thought she would see the day.
Update: Mo is excited that this dark page of Iraq's history is over.
Update: Drima doesn't think death by hanging is sufficient punishment for this asshole!
November 5th, 2006 at 10:08 am
BREAKING: Saddam Sentenced to Hang
Mass murdering butcher Saddam Hussein has been found guilty of Crimes Against Humanity and sentenced to hang. Still, an appeal is automatic (absurd), and can take months. With this verdict, the convicted (including Saddam’s half-brother) should be imm…
November 5th, 2006 at 10:43 am
Lulululululuululuululullulullulululuululululuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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November 5th, 2006 at 10:50 am
Woohooo, I just blogged about it too. Oh ya and screw that dickhead called Raed Jarar.
Down with all the filthy Arab dictators. May freedom and justice prevail!
And SM, that’s one hell of an observation… V for Vendetta… 5th of Novermeber LOL.
November 5th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Something tells me that will not be the end of him, death penalty does not help to built a new society !
November 5th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
Remember, remember the 5th of November… I learned about Bonfire Day from an English friend I made while in Egypt!!!
November 5th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
Nomad Says:”Something tells me that will not be the end of him”
Your Sunday School teacher? Your local priest? The Pope?
Nomad Says:”death penalty does not help to built a new society !”
I beg to differ.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:04 pm
Spanish leader Zapatero got it right I think…..policy descisons of leaders that lead to the deaths of innocent people…..should be tried for their crimes….Bush and Blair next?
November 5th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
V for Vendetta, cute. Smart observation and a really great movie.
Oh yeah… and of course… ding dong the witch (dictator) is dead. Or at least is gonna be real soon. Good riddance.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
The verdict and sentence are no surprises.
My cynical prediction is that US forces will leave Iraq 6 months after Saddam is executed.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
Your Sunday School teacher? Your local priest? The Pope?
Nomad Says:”death penalty does not help to built a new society !”
I beg to differ.
Heigou
the funny thing with you, is that your living very far away from the real world,
your taking your desires for granted
November 5th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
@SM:
It’s a quote from the bullshit movie “V for Vendetta”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
Don’t tell me u like this movie, please!
November 5th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
“How could Bush be so smart and so dumb at the same time? Anyone know?”
Bush IS dumb. The timing of the verdict was decided by Karl Rove.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Frankly…I like Saddam being alive…I still think that maybe we can get valuable info. from this guy about terrorists and leaders around the world…and continue to rub his face in shit meanwhile.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
guy fawkes night ! arent you a clever bum! its is rather delicously ironic
November 5th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
Perhaps Saddam should die by the same poison he dropped on the Kurdish people.
In any case, it’s not gonna make a damn bit of difference in the upcoming elections.
I predict a Democratic rout.
November 5th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Well, if Saddam prefers the military firing squad, let him have the hangman.
I wouldn’t make the hanging public, though. Enough uproar in the country already. Just let him have hanged in a secret place on a secret date and then publish one picture. And take good care of him before the date, he might follow the coward Goering.
Can anybody enlighten me about the 5th of November story? I’m not good with dates *shrug*
November 5th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
And the old asshat didn’t take the news so well, so I heard. LOL.
November 5th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
[...] P.S. I blame Bush! (Dare I look at the NY Times’ spin on this?) UPDATE: Mohammed of Iraq the Model has his reaction posted at Pajamas Media. I think Sandmonkey speaks for (most of!) the world when saying, “Adios, Asshole!” The Truckin’ Blog linked with Orson Scott Card Trackback URL for this post: http://bamapachyderm.com/archives/2006/11/05/saddam-hussein-verdicts/trackback/ [...]
November 5th, 2006 at 6:27 pm
I don`t know, the amount of people that have been torutured, castrated, electrecuted, humiliated, and god knows what else at the hands of this man and by the end all he gets its 5 seconds of pain before he deprives us of his presence in this world?
Shitty deal if ask me, this guy deserves more…much much more.
November 5th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
“Remember, remember the 5th of November: gunpowder, treason and plot”
!7th Centaury England: Catholic fanatics try to blow up King James of England, Parliament and half the aristocracy. Guy Fawkes was caught just as he lit the fuse (Hmmm) and is burnt in effigy ever since.
I suppose it’s now: “Remember, remember the 5th of November: the day Saddam got the drop”
November 5th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
Katrin - It’s a reference to Guy Fawkes Night… unless V from Vendette” comes into it somehow?? (Scroll down for “References in poplar culture”)
#12 Sam Steele. Please look up the info on the trial proceedings before you make claims that Karl Rove is involved. Your ignorance is showing.
November 5th, 2006 at 6:44 pm
Oh yeah baby! I love when you talk about Hanging Satan Hussein
Everyone in Blogland is writing on this subject (myself included). We should throw a party!
November 5th, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Millions of prayers have been answered. Even I couldn’t resist blogging about this! May he rot in hell, like he deserves.
November 5th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Did they even NEED a trial?
One doesn’t ge the moniker ‘Butcher of Baghdad’ for their philanthropic work, ya know?
How silly.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Bec,
Silly, dontcha know that KKKarl Rove controls all?
Careful how you reply, Karl is watching!
Russo,
Sure, but Carter and Clinton would have to go first!
Nomad,
I’m with Hei. To make a nice omlette, sometimes you have to break a few oeufs.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:27 pm
When they found him, back in December 2003, I went out and had a drink.
It’s bitter now. Too many have been killed for this to be meaningful, and I don’t think Iraq exists anymore, as anything but a geographical notation.
No, this was not worth it.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Bjon
on ne fait pas d’omelette sans casser d’oeufs !
alors c’est shabbat !
(what about your greasy hamburgers ?)
November 6th, 2006 at 12:50 am
Nomad,
Uh oh. My 40 word French vocabulary has been outed!
Perhaps Espanol?
BJ
P.S. I got along reasonably well for a weekend in Paris once speaking New York Spanish in a fake french accent.
November 6th, 2006 at 3:42 am
While surely a lot of people are happy about executing Saddam, I for one am not. Not because I love saddam, but because I believe in a thing called justice. Proper civilized justice. This trial is highly politicized and unprofessional. Look at the judge’s antics in the trial. Does his demeanor even remotely measure up to what is expected of a neutral and professional Judge in the civilized World? Even Judge Judy and a clown would have their reservations about him. The Judge in this case displayed immature and rowdy rhetoric that’s almost on the same plane as Saddam Hussein’s Demeanor. Justice is not about Revenge or “Take That” mentality. Justice is about a process that is logical, professional and Fair. Saddam is going to get executed for being responsible for the killing 148 people in Dujail. Fine. But how about the rest of the 3 million he’s responsible for their deaths? Where is their satisfaction? Executing Saddam at this stage is wrong and a big mistake. Doing so, only makes him pay dues for the Dujail massacre but completley absolves him of the other tragedies he is responsible for. What about the enablers and the backers of Saddam national AND international who are equally responsible for the attrocities he commited (we might end up seeing a couple of republicans indited) ? Executing Saddam now will further divide Iraqis given that the trial is nothing short of an impotent attempt at legal action against a former tyrant. This trial is so short of many things and the execution of Saddam will make him a Martyr rather than an appropriate punishment for his rule. What should be done, is a fully televised (no cuts or visual editing) trial where PROPERLY trained Judges and Jury of his peers is held (You may have to look outside of Iraq for that) and proceeding to be done in the most professional manner. It must be held when Iraq returns to a degree of normalcy with all the people tuned in. Killing Saddam will relieve him of having to talk infront of the 20 million people he used to rule and explain why he did the things he did. That’s how the scars will be healed. Things like seeing him standing there like a frail old man trying his best to justify what’s unjustifiable on prime time national tv. THat’s what proper and civlized justice can achieve. But this redneck enabled arabist tribal form of street ‘justice’ will kill saddam but not bring justice to Iraq. Mind you, no one expects better when the American goverment is run by incompetent stupid fucks and Iraqi society is under the spell of tribal and relegious radicals who don’t understand what civil discourse is about.
November 6th, 2006 at 4:09 am
Egyptian patriot is very right. This trial does nothing for the Iraqi people except allow them to indulge in some bloodlust. It is as much a piece of political theatre as a White House speech, and as much of a show trial as any of the judicial proceedings during the Stalinist purges, and as such is arranged to maximize the political impact for its sponsors, the Bush administration and what passes for the Iraqi government.
What should have been done is a cumulative public exposition of the evidence for all Saddam’s crimes, an opportunity to mount a defense, and a stage to rebut whatever defense is offered. Sentencing and execution would almost an afterthought, or at least simply the necessary and logical conclusion. Instead it’s all farce. Not a single human being is better off because of this trial.
November 6th, 2006 at 6:00 am
Oh come on sandmonkey, this is definitely an October surprise. There’s absolutely no reason why he had to be condemned two days before the election. It could have and should have waited or been taken care of long ago. It’s just to show an example of success in Iraq and remind voters of Saddam’s atrocities. Unfortunately, it’s going to work because voters aren’t that smart (especially in VA, MT, and MO, where it matters) and then we’re gonna have to deal with naother four years of this shit.
Second, this trial was totally illegitimate. It didn’t even the aura of a fair trial. I consider any judgment from this trial totally invalid. It was a publicity stunt.
Third, Death by hanging is brutal and inhumane. It’s fucked up for any civilized nation to mete out this punishmetn and for the new Iraqi government to do such a thing it’s only doing as bad as Saddam.
Besides, the atrocities that Saddam is being tried for were supported by the US government and the Reagan administration when they occurred.
November 6th, 2006 at 8:46 am
euh, I thought Id left a comment, dunno where its gone :
so Bjon,
maybe you could teach some logical bases in philosophy to Hei, I found he tends to disgress sometimes
by the way, philosophy is a special program for our baccalaureat, (of course, I took it, otherwise you would have none to conter your sides of view)
November 6th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Nomad Says:”Heigou, the funny thing with you, is that your living very far away from the real world, your taking your desires for granted
nomade Says:”maybe you could teach some logical bases in philosophy to Hei, I found he tends to disgress sometimes
by the way, philosophy is a special program for our baccalaureat, (of course, I took it, otherwise you would have none to conter your sides of view)”
Yes. I see it has done you no end of good. Perhaps you might like to tell us all what you got for your Bac considering that most rational people do not think an ad hominem is a valid, much less logical, form of argument. Perhaps the French are different?
There is a strong argument that the death penalty is precisely what is needed. After all, France did no such thing after 1945 - they even let since-convicted war criminals continue to serve in the French police. Who was Prefect of Polcie in Paris when they murdered a few hundred Algerians and dumped the bodies in the Seine? Did France benefit from turning a blind eye to the crimes of Vichy? I think not.
As for the trial, so what if it was a joke? Sometimes even prejudiced people get it right. Does anyone think for one second Saddam was innocent? A good trial would have been better, but best of all would have been a summary execution after a short military tribunal hearing. Get it over and done with and move on.
November 6th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
There is a strong argument that the death penalty is precisely what is needed. After all, France did no such thing after 1945 - they even let since-convicted war criminals continue to serve in the French police. Who was Prefect of Polcie in Paris when they murdered a few hundred Algerians and dumped the bodies in the Seine? Did France benefit from turning a blind eye to the crimes of Vichy? I think not.
Hei, try to learn more history,
first , when De Gaulle led the country in 1945, he did not want a civil war in France, (see what happened in Irak) and kept regarding toward a reconstruction of the nation, therefore he needed to unify all the frenchs ; the avered ones guilty of cooperating with the ennemy were punished (death penalty or heavy prison sentences)
if France carried on employing her administration clerics after the WW2, it’s cause there were no body else able to run the country, that is why De Gaulle create the ENA, so that in future, government will have the choice
and that was the same situation for all occupied european countries
as far the fact you cited, France was at war with Algeria, and of course the police reaction was disprortionated, kind of pranoïa you have in Israel too
November 6th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
Of course, the French were too stupid to execute Napoleon, and so he revisted trouble on them and the rest of Europe again.
Now the Euro-cowards are crying that Saddam will get the death penalty. Better a dead martyr than a live threat waiting to be sprung from jail.
Patrick, you are unhinged, and your side has been pulling plenty of suprises, and keeping them on the front pages too.
If you liberals are too cowardly and squeemish to see Saddam hanged, then you are too cowardly and sqeemish to even pretend that you have a solution to terrorism besides dhimmitude.
November 6th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Smarty, I love you my little rabbit
November 6th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
Nomad Says:”Hei, try to learn more history,”
Well this may sound arrogant, but you are probably better advised not to take that line with me.
Nomad Says:”first , when De Gaulle led the country in 1945, he did not want a civil war in France, (see what happened in Irak) and kept regarding toward a reconstruction of the nation, therefore he needed to unify all the frenchs ; the avered ones guilty of cooperating with the ennemy were punished (death penalty or heavy prison sentences)”
A very few were either punished or executed for co-operating with the enemy. Apart from all the women who were brutalised of course. Don’t mess with the Vichy officials, but humiliate the women. What makes you think there would have been civil war in 1945? In fact the only real risk of that was with the PCF who were, of course, annoyed their former allies in Vichy were NOT punished. De Gaulle needed the Fascists to help him against the Communists and so let them off.
Nomad Says:”if France carried on employing her administration clerics after the WW2, it’s cause there were no body else able to run the country, that is why De Gaulle create the ENA, so that in future, government will have the choice”
The question is not the continued employment of a few, or even most, but the employment, promotion and honoring of people like Maurice Papon. Did DG have to give him the Ld’H?
Nomad Says:”as far the fact you cited, France was at war with Algeria, and of course the police reaction was disprortionated, kind of pranoïa you have in Israel too”
Not in 1961 it was not. That was precisely why France was fighting - Algeria was French and it was not a war. I don’t recall Israeli police shooting dead several hundred Palestinians in a peaceful civil rights march in the heart of Tel Aviv. Do you?
November 6th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
De Gaulle needed the Fascists to help him against the Communists and so let them off.
did you know De Gaulle had communist ministers in his government ? so, your on bullshitting
Algeria was French and it was not a war. I don’t recall Israeli police shooting dead several hundred Palestinians in a peaceful civil rights march in the heart of Tel Aviv. Do you?
War with Algeria started in 1954,
in 1962, you could say we won the military war but not the political one,
and De Gaulle had a count to regularise with the french colons of which the origins were in WW2, that is why he gave the independance despite he promised to them
and in Israel how come palestinians could riot for their civil rights, since they are not allowed to get in there ?
November 6th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
Nomad Says:”did you know De Gaulle had communist ministers in his government ? so, your on bullshitting”
Of course I know he did. And he pushed them into junior Ministries and in fact rearranged the Defence Ministry just to keep them out of Army matters.
But that does not mean he liked or trusted them. France was near to falling to Stalin in 1945 and De Gaulle, although forced to make concessions, also brought over as much of the Far Right as he could to have allies against them.
Nomad Says:”War with Algeria started in 1954,”
There was no Algeria to have a war with. Rebels in the Departments that made up what is now Algeria started a rebellion in 1954 but if it was a war it was only a civil war because Algeria was part of France.
Nomad Says:”in 1962, you could say we won the military war but not the political one,
and De Gaulle had a count to regularise with the french colons of which the origins were in WW2, that is why he gave the independance despite he promised to them”
Sorry but what? Yes, France won the military war. De Gaulle gave independence despite being brought to power by the colons and their Army friends because he recognised the fighting was unwinnable and so sacrificed the pied noir. So what?
This does not change the fact that Papon, a since-convicted war criminal, was Prefect of Police in Paris at the time.
Nomad Says:”and in Israel how come palestinians could riot for their civil rights, since they are not allowed to get in there ?”
About 20 percent of the Israeli population is Palestinian as it happens.
November 6th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
So Papon is your black beast, then why your Mossad komandos did not pick him ? I am sure he was not hiding in Argentina or Paraguay !
November 6th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
thx, Bec
.
Somehow I’ve got to study this Guy Fawkes incident more closely one day - I’m still not sure if I draw the correct conclusion.
HeiGou,
About 20 percent of the Israeli population is Palestinian as it happens.
That’s a fact nobody want’s to know when ‘new Apartheid’ is being celebrated.
November 7th, 2006 at 9:11 am
Are they gonna to sell tickets to it?
“That’s right folks, step right up! Come and see how easy and fun it is to execute a defenceless human being! Celebrate your barbarity by cheering to a murder!”
Smarty wrote: “then you [liberals] are too cowardly and sqeemish to even pretend that you have a solution to terrorism besides dhimmitude.”
Yeah, unlike conservatives who have the guts to pretend they have a working solution while they know they have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. “We will be celebrated as liberators! They have WMDs! Last throes!”
November 7th, 2006 at 8:13 pm
Better to try and fail than to cower and whimper at the start.
Of course when people do try, the whimpering cowards try to sabotage it, because the bravery of others shame them.
November 7th, 2006 at 8:29 pm
[...] Update to the rest of the Dictators of the World: Be afraid! Be very afraid, cause we’re coming for the rest of you mother fuckers!*joining Sandmonkey in his dance* [...]
November 8th, 2006 at 4:50 am
Eero,
You’re right, of course. They should behead him, and post the video on the internet. Maybe they could force him to admit that he’s Jewish first, just for laughs.