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Thursday, 30 Nov 2006

On cavemen and astronauts

In one of the last episodes of one of my all time favorite TV shows, this question was posed: If 10 astronauts and 10 cavemen faced each other in a fight, who would win?

For those who have seen the show (Oh ye people of intelligence and good taste), and were heartbroken by the end of that episode, the answer was clear: The cavemen would win of course. The cavemen will always win.

I don't know why I thought of that while I was watching this today! 


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  1. hummbumm Says:

    angel and buffy rule, and yes kus ikht hizbullah be teeseh. that mkaes me feel better. My poor parents live a few block from downtown beirut, so they have to deal wiht all this crap.

  2. scooter Says:

    There are several things that I believe in but the real biggy is for women and children and non-combatant males to have a good life. The only thing that this clip has done is reinforce my growing belief that in the ME the fuckheads will never stop, this is a generational war and will go on forever and even removing the mad mullahs and the radical imams cannot stop it now. I’m sorry but my children and my family are worth more to me than theirs. Google ‘peacekeeper’. About 30 should do. Flush them.

  3. Mark Says:

    Everyday it is more difficult resisting turning it the whole area, including Israel, into a big glass parking lot.

    What do they hope to gain? The sad part is that if there were no oil in the vicinity we would ignore them like we ignore Darfur.

  4. DemocracyRules Says:

    NOTES FOR HIZ & OTHER TERRORISTS - CANADIAN VIEW
    I give you one piece of advice: Do not incite the American people to war. We in Canada know a lot about the US, and how they think, and how they live, much more than the average person in Bam, Iran, or Tyre, Lebanon, knows. You think that you can use hate as a weapon to build an attack against he US, but you know not what you do. The US has over 300 million people, and they are all soldiers. The US built its country by its own hands, and from the beginning, they all accepted that freedom, liberty, and democracy were not negotiable. If by some miracle, an invasion force of Iranians attempted a landing on US soil, every man, woman and child would be there to meet them. They would not relent until it was finished. On United Airlines Flight 93, a random assortment of 40 civilian Americans was suddenly called to arms in a miniature Middle Eastern war. The ex-policewoman air hostess, the environmentalist, the marketing executive, moved against the Islamists as one, and collectively said, “We are not afraid”. Americans did not become timorous, or afraid after 9/11, instead they “got busy on yo’ ass”. After 9/11, America did not back down, and they will not back down, because the attack incited individual Americans against every Islamist, and every person who supports Islamists, or gives comfort to them. Americans are not the same as the Russians in Afghanistan, or the French in Algeria. To defeat the US, you will have to kill every one of them, and you do not know how to do that.

    You clearly do not understand how rich Americans are, how many resources they have at their disposal, how intelligent, perseverant, and creative they are. Their wealth is enormous, with massive amounts of built structure: large houses, soaring office towers, highways, schools, universities, hospitals, and military bases everywhere, spanning a continent. Honestly, if you had even an inkling of what you are up against, you would cease your pointless reverse crusade immediately.

    Within the last century, Americans have become extremely interested in war. They think about it, talk about it, plan for, it and rehearse it constantly. They spend huge amounts on their military every year, building installations and weapons, many types of which you have never even heard about. Tens of millions of Americans have served, do serve, and will serve in their military. We Canadians sometimes stand back and look at the Americans bemused, because one seldom even sees any of the Canadian military presence in Canada, whereas the US National Guard units stationed near Buffalo, New York, alone, have sufficient resources at their disposal to kill every Muslim on earth. Of course the Americans are right to prepare for war, because there is always another one coming, and they know that they will probably be the main target. The US even declared a “War on Poverty” in the 1960’s, but thankfully they relented before they began bombing the slums.

    People who do not understand democracies constantly underestimate them. Hitler and Stalin certainly underestimated democracies. Many of those living in non-democracies think that in the current situation in the US, with huge internal dissent, Democrats shouting misgivings about Iraq, and Republicans pontificating about treachery, and the enemy within, it may seem that the factions will cancel each other out, or with more Democrat influence, the whole tide of war will change. Instead, the US is exposing its power to the world, by thinking out loud, disagreeing publicly, and nit-picking endlessly over details in floods of political television programs. The election is over, and, the war on terror will go on, as all previous US wars have done, irrespective of the party in power. To understand US policy, look carefully at what is not said, because that is where they have reached implicit consensus. Neither side is talking about ending the war on terror — instead they are bickering about the best way to kill Islamists.

    For the Middle East, the scale of this war is enormous, which is clearly evident in the reportage of Al Jazeera, which mainly features events related to the war on terror. In contrast, this war has had no real effect on the US whatsoever. It is completely trivial. The US media talks about the war a lot, but Americans are always very interested in war in general, and there are no interesting sex scandals going on at the moment. If JonBenet Ramsay’s murderer were to be found, CNN would focus completely on that, and behave for weeks as if the war on terror did not exist. So far, the war on terror has cost the US roughly 6,000 lives since 9/11, while over that same period, approximately 2,000,000 Americans have died from smoking. In the World War II epoch, spanning 1933-1945, about 70,000,000 people were killed, but only about 500,000 of them were Americans, and the US became stronger because of that war. Islamists hope to obtain nuclear weapons (in fact there really are no other weapons of mass destruction). With some luck, and perseverance, Islamists may be able to detonate a nuclear bomb in Times Square, New York, and kill 1,000,000 people, but that is 0.3% of the US population. The remaining 99.7% of the US population would then do to the Islamists what the US did to Japan. Later, in the years that followed such an event, some Americans would regret having turned several Middle Eastern countries into blowing ash, but there would be a reluctant final consensus that after the Times Square bombing, it had to be done, and they would be right.

    In the meantime, the US grows stronger each day. Their economy is doing extremely well, providing levels of health and prosperity that even Ali Baba could not have dreamt about. Coca Cola is finally getting to challenge Pepsi in Afghanistan. As a bonus, the US military gets to interrupt its constant war games to practice and train in a real war in Iraq. These are almost perfect training circumstances, with lots of troop rotations, a very low casualty rate, a real but evanescent enemy, and a kill ratio of much higher than 10 to 1. It is a general’s dream, and it’s an excellent theatre to test, develop, and refine weapons and tactics, in preparation for Iran, when that battle becomes necessary.

    The most powerful method the US has of defeating the Islamists is already in play, and it will ultimately succeed. We Canadians, as the constant neighbours and interlocutors of the Americans, know their secrets. Only 5% of Americans have passports, and their biggest single foreign travel destination is Canada. The Americans’ secret method is that they do not hate very well. They’re terrible at it. They don’t teach their children to hate, they constantly forget who their enemies are, and they forgive adversaries, usually before the last bullet has landed. Islamists, and so many people in the Middle East, cling to hate as an addiction, passing it on to their children, cherishing it inside themselves, using it as the centerpiece of their lives. Hate, quite simply, like other addictions, is a waste of time and energy. Americans can’t concentrate very long on hate. They lose interest, or forget what the fighting was all about, or follow up their wars with reconstruction plans for their vanquished enemies. From time to time, they get mad at “Krauts”, or “Japs”, or “Commies”, but the next thing you know, the epithets are gone from the language, and things are back to normal, with Americans welcoming their former enemies into their country as immigrants, and marrying them, if possible.

    Therefore, my advice to Islamists is to just give up fighting the US and forget about it. Your hate will not even be reciprocated, and you will probably still be welcomed as immigrants during the conflict. In the meantime, remember it’s not the Americans fault that your son wants to play with X-Box, or your daughter wants to wear Prada. If you don’t like Coca-Cola, don’t buy it. By flaunting your hate, you expose your jealousy, and humiliate yourselves. At the end of the war on terror, those who hate will be no better off than they were, while the US, by not hating, will be ever brighter, as “the shining city on the hill”.

  5. Dan Irving Says:

    Damn DR … that was pretty good.

  6. test Says:

    DR i agree

    just on thing about the film. Its like seeing Hitler Jügend and all tha arabes say that Israel is unsing the Nazi metohedes. But well there argumts do not need to “hold water” as they do not have a free miend.

  7. The Raccoon Says:

    DR - very nice! Can I steal this? :)

  8. Dan Irving Says:

    The whole ‘Israel is the New Nazi’ is a tired meme anyway - used more for shock than actual analysis. Just like the whole ‘Israel is an apartheid state’ meme. These arguments are promoted by people who are too lazy to apply any thought to the situation.

  9. ella Says:

    DR

    Great staff.
    You forgot to add some immigrants to the mixture. Most immigrants (perhaps not from ME but from other countries) often get more american than people who have been born there. My friend who emigrated to states is so “Hurray USA” that it is sometimes painful to watch ;-)

  10. d00d Says:

    “The Americans’ secret method is that they do not hate very well. They’re terrible at it. They don’t teach their children to hate, they constantly forget who their enemies are, and they forgive adversaries, usually before the last bullet has landed. Islamists, and so many people in the Middle East, cling to hate as an addiction, passing it on to their children, cherishing it inside themselves, using it as the centerpiece of their lives. Hate, quite simply, like other addictions, is a waste of time and energy. ”

    Damn straight.

  11. DemocracyRules Says:

    RE post #4. Yes, by all means steal it, borrow it, copy it, whatever you prefer. I would like it if you attributed it to DemocracyRules, so I might find your comments via google. Thanks for your interest!

  12. Oso, US Says:

    WOW DS!!!

    Middle East - Take heed. Hate is destroying you. Take DR’s advice and find something more constructive to do with your time.

  13. BrooklynJon Says:

    DR,

    I just emailed your post to roughly everyone I know (with attribution, of course, to you and SM). I just have to differ from your assertion that nukes are the only real WMD. Biologicals can be as well. An epidemic of smallpox will cause a lot more damage and dislocation that a nuke or two.

    Otherwise, a brilliant post. How long after WWII did it take for us all to start buying German and Japanese cars? Hate is just so not worth it.

  14. Jack Says:

    Those kids are so inbred they don’t have a clue what is really going on, they are just taught to hate all the infidels… which is pretty much everyone except themselves, especially Israel and America… it’s kind of sad really.

  15. no2liberals Says:

    DemocracyRules
    A wonderful post. I will share it with all I know, many who are immigrants from the ME.
    As a proud freedom loving American, I appreciate your kind words about your southern neighbors. Your fine servicemen and women are appreciated and respected as brothers in arms, in this GWOT.

    Sandmonkey…what TV program are you referring to?

  16. Letter to Mahmoud « Nuke’s news & views Says:

    […] Earlier today, n2l pointed me to a blog called Rantings of a Sandmonkey. There was a video with Arab children in military garb, guns, and banners, one of them even dressed up as a suicide bomber. It was ghastly. It was also the kind of thing we’ve come to expect from the death cult followers over the past few years. […]

  17. Eva, Canada Says:

    As a Canadian I cannot but agree with DR. I must add that Americans are so wrapped in themselves that many have not yet noticed the hate campaign in ME. Glenn Beck on CNN Headline News his killing himself to disseminate the knowledge and I hope he will succeed. Like Japan and Germany, ME will ultimately pay for this with lives of innocent people. Unlike Japan and Germany, whose wealth grew from hard work and discipline, ME will likely be ruined for the next 500 years.

  18. Hippocrass Says:

    ,i.People first of all, need to shut their fucking mouths up when they don’t no shit. Once again, for those that can’t read SHUT THE FUCK UP. ,b.Now one must understand that these children only do becuase of reason, children unlike adults understand right and wrong, and theirs a good chance that these children have lost at least one of their family members to Israel, America, or the general West. SO, SHUT THE FUCK UP AGAIN

    I love this comment,(form the youtube link). If it came from a sane person you would swear it was satire, but the guy sounds so damned convinced that the statement is true that it is just hilarious.

    Do people really think this way?

  19. Hippocrass Says:

    Ack!
    No html.

  20. Josh Scholar Says:

    Someone explain to me why Arabs always think that oppressing and using their own children will somehow make them stronger.

    The Palestinians could have had a strong state ten times over by now, but instead grandpa handed a key to a door that no longer exists to a house that no longer exists in a village that no longer exists to his grandson and told him to kill himself to get grandpa’s house back.

    Such betrayal of your own children is unnatural and unforgivable.

    Fucking savages!

  21. Josh Scholar Says:

    And Monkey got it wrong, (and Democracy right), the astronaut always wins.

    Remember Indiana Jones and his gun against the guy with the whip?

  22. BrooklynJon Says:

    Josh,

    Such an excellent scene! And it was evidently a spontaneous ad lib!

    Hippocrass,

    Children will repeat back whatever is said to them. And when everybody in society is saying the same thing, they will assume it to be so naturally true, that they are unaware that they are making an assumption. It’s called “culture”. These children, rightly or wrongly, for better or for worse, are growing up in a culture of hatred and violence.

    Palestinians have suffered. So, on the other hand, have a lot of people. The question is what do you do with that suffering. Do you respond by training your children to hate and to seek vengence? Or do you move on? Most societies have moved on. The point here is that the Palestinians would likely be better off if they did the same.

    And it would be nice if you expressed your valid point in a more gentlemanly or ladylike manner.

    Thank you.

  23. Suzanne Says:

    Nicely put, Josh.

    It’s saddening.

  24. Suzanne Says:

    Yesterday a colleague of mine mentioned someone who did some research on the suffering of jews nowadays concerning the holocaust in the past and the suffering of muslims nowadays concerning the holocaust. I got confused and asked what the muslims had to do with this. He explained that they believed that the “victimising of Jews due to what happened to them during the holocaust was overrated, because… what about the palestinians?” I got sooooo pissed off and said: if Israelis were really mass murderers, how come the amount of Palestinians increased with 600% after 1948?

    They really have no clue what they are talking about and take their myths as reality. If I hear one more time about “genocide in Palestine” I’ll kick that person personally to Darfur.
    There you have your genocide.

  25. Josh Scholar Says:

    Nicely put, Josh.

    I wish that what I wrote was a metaphor, but it’s actually a reality.

    I’ve seen these old skeleton keys on chains. They’re literally passing keys down the generations in order to insure that the vendetta goes on forever.

    I can’t imagine hating your children and unborn grandchildren so much that you’d do that to them. I can’t imagine being so fucking greedy that you care about your own little self and about others so little!

  26. Josh Scholar Says:

    I messed up that last sentence it would be better as:

    I can’t imagine being so fucking greedy that you care about your own little self so much and about your while family so little!

  27. Josh Scholar Says:

    And I typoed and hit return in one stroke (the ‘o’ is next to the ‘i’ you know)!!!

    I can’t imagine being so fucking greedy that you care about your own little self so much and about your whole family so little!

  28. scooter Says:

    Stop it all of you. #18 Hippoass has shown everynoy what need be staited…sorry, being a real AH there. 18, you may not realise this but we disagree with each other from time to time and sometimes harsh words are said but basically everyone gets a fair go and at the end of the day we can all go to the bar and have a drink and shake hands ( in a cyber sort of way ). On the other hand you are a total fuckwit. No Nobel prize for Lit. for my post is there ?

  29. Olive Picker Says:

    Has anyone else read “Lord of the Flies”?

  30. Cut snake Says:

    Just as an aside, americans by and large have the same genetic makeup as europeans. They are not the only people on the planet who appreciate democracy, and understand what makes democracy work.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  31. BrooklynJon Says:

    Cut snake,

    Please explain what exactly genetic makeup has to do with the rest of your comment.

  32. scooter Says:

    #30…are you referring to the reverse eugenics thing ie close the gene pool and you have stultification ?

  33. Cut snake Says:

    Sorry guys, it was meant 2b a rather innocent and litehearted comment.
    What I mean is Americans are humans , as are europeans etc .I love americans and what they have contributed , and are still contributing to the planet.Just to name afew , jazz, microprocessors, and jeans.
    What pisses me off is that a lot of them seem to believe they invented democracy, which is patently absurd. anyway, have a beer and chill guys.

  34. scooter Says:

    #33…I do believe I will.

  35. Hippocrass Says:

    Sorry. There seems to be some confusion surrounding my post. The initial paragraph was cut/pasted from the YouTube comments and was meant to distinguished from the rest of the post with italics. I am not used to this commenting system and assumed that simple html would work. Also, the section referring to children, unlike adults, seemingly possessing innate knowledge of the difference between right and wrong was meant to be bolded. Again, it didn’t quite work out.

    The remainder of the post was meant simply to ridicule this statement, and again, apparently did not work out as planned. I apologize for any confusion or offense this may have lead to.

  36. bg Says:

    Hitler & the Grand Mufti
    http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
    http://tinyurl.com/3nm9j

    ==

  37. Nuke Gingrich » Blog Archive » Letter to Mahmoud Says:

    […] today, n2l pointed me to a blog called Rantings of a Sandmonkey. There was a video with Arab children in military garb, guns, and banners, one of them even dressed […]

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