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What is an iranian moderate conservative, exactly? And are we supposed to be excited that the celrics won against the republican guard candidates? Are those our options now?
December 19th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
What is an iranian moderate conservative, exactly?
Not sure, but I’m going to guess he has problems with Jews, women, gays, infidels, etc…
Kind of like an iranian conservative conservative or an iranian liberal conservative or an iranian reformist conservative, etc…
December 19th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
Somebody wanted on charges of terrorism in Argentina.
http://www.newsalerts.com/news/article/argentina-seeks-rafsanjani-arrest.html:world18:849109
December 19th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
the elections were a mascarade
“L’Iran a 9.000.000 de fonctionnaires dans la milice et 2.000.000 d’agents de sécurité de terrain (900.000 de bassidjis, 700.000 Pasdaran, 300.000 militaires et quelques dizaines de milliers de miliciens du Hezbollah…). Généralement, ces gens sont tenus de voter en compagnie de leur famille. Et généralement ceux qui votent, le font avec tous les membres de leurs familles. Le taux de 4% qui est aujourd’hui dans toutes les bouches à Téhéran est le signe que même les miliciens Bassidjis n’ont également pas tous participé à ces élections qui manquent cruellement d’images de longues files d’attente devant les bureaux de vote.
Pourtant, afin d’attirer les électeurs aux urnes, le régime a même organisé des concerts gratuits où se sont produits des chanteurs de très grand renom. Des poids lourds politiques comme Khatami se sont déplacés pour des débats en direct avec les électeurs… Et certains footballeurs et autres sportifs connus ont accepté de servir d’appât pour attirer les électeurs dans d’autres bureaux de vote. Les habitants des quartiers concernés ont surveillé ces bureaux de votes pour surprendre l’arrivée en bus des électeurs à 5, 10 et 20 $. Ces électeurs figurants étaient nécessaires pour tourner les images de files d’attentes. Selon nos infos (de Téhéran), les bus sont arrivées discrètement à la tombée du jour après 19 heures (l’heure officielle de la clôture des bureaux de vote !) et le régime a annoncé 3 heures de suffrage supplémentaire, officiellement en raison de la forte participation populaire. Mais il s’agissait de déplacer les figurants de bureaux en bureaux et de les filmer dans des décors différents.
Même la bio-express de Rafsandjani diffusée par l’AFP est la retranscription à l’identique du communiqué de presse de Rafsandjani qui avait été lu à la télévision d’état. Ces contrôles sévères de la communication encadrée et truquée confirment que la participation a été catastrophiquement faible. 4%.
Ceci confirme le désaveu du régime par sa base et d’ailleurs s’ils avaient voté (logiquement, ils auraient dû voter pour les partisans de l’ordre et non pour les pseudo réformateurs). L’ensemble de ces élections est une mascarade : les chiffres et les tendances sont contradictoires. Mais nous tenons à confirmer le taux de 4%. Ce régime est fini. Ceux qui n’ont pas voté le savent et ils sont 96%.
cf Iran resist
December 19th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
What is an iranian moderate conservative, exactly?
That’s the guy who has the same aims in foreign politics as Ahmadinejad but he/she wants to achieve them without telling all and sundry what exactly are his goals.
December 19th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
Former Israeli PM Shamir was responsible for the 1944 assassination of Britain’s minister of state for the Middle East, the 1948 assassination of the UN representative in the Middle East, and an assassination attempt against the British High Commissioner of Palestine.
Is that what you would call a typical Likudist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_%28group%29
December 19th, 2006 at 11:56 pm
It’s a moderate fanatic.
December 20th, 2006 at 6:51 am
@Jebus_Cripes, is the Likud moderate? Anyway, what has that to do with an Iranian “moderate’?
December 20th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Are those our options now?
Yes, same in Egypt, Mubarak or MB, bad or worse. Dire.
In the west, criteria for a good or bad government is, what they do.
In the cursed lands, criteria for a good or bad government is, what they do not.
In my opinion, a cursed land government, who do not drag the country into isolation, who do not impose brutal laws upon the people, etc., many other don’ts, should be considered good, and as such cherished. The people should then demonstrate their appreciation of their government by gathering in the streeets and singing:”Thank you, our beloved leaders for not dragging our country into isolation” or “Thank you, our moderate government for not imposing brutal laws upon us” etc., many other thank yous.
December 20th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Reminding people that’s all.
December 20th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Sorry for going a bit off topic. Some Danish artists have posted an Ad in Tehran Times. The Ad is against Bush as a cover, but descretly spells SWINE under Mahmoud Ahmedinejad in Iran’s stateowned newspaper.
http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aiid=4147642:img=P/
December 20th, 2006 at 6:51 pm
@10
lol
December 20th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
I’m going to go completely off topic with two words: Anousheh Ansari. The Iranian American female astronaut. I’m going to pray Iranians be able to show and grow their genuine goodness versus believing any political hype from their politicians. Makes me laugh. Wish more ME’s would realize Americans are less represented by our politicians as I suspect MEs are by theirs… We are NOT our politicians. Are you? Politicians as a whole are breed SNAKE. They know no borders, just madness. Peace.
December 20th, 2006 at 8:52 pm
@10, great joke
December 20th, 2006 at 9:23 pm
yeeeeha Lars #10, great one, but there’s something bigger going on. Link to the whole Jyllands-Posten article:
http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=4147642/
where you can find link to the artists:
http://www.surrend.org/
They are launching satirical stickers campaigns in 20 countries, ending up with exhibition in Copenhagen. I wonder, will Egypt be included? And if so, what would be on egyptian stickers?
December 20th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
[...] Sandmonkey asks what an “Iranian moderate conservative” means, referring to the way Hashemi Rafsanjani, victorious in the latest Iranian polls, is called by the media. [...]
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:56 am
We were having this very conversation tonight… it’s sad that a moderate is someone who says all the same things the extremists say, but they dont say “blow up the infidels.”
Granted, not blowing things up is a good place to start, but a bad place to end.