Casualty rates

From Yesterday's clashes in Lebanon:

Police, in a final toll of the trouble, reported that three people
were killed and 173 injured. Of the 173, 48 suffered gunshot wounds and
the rest resulted from blows from sticks or stones.

Tuesday's clashes quickly took on a dangerous sectarian tone in a
country whose divided communities fought a bloody 1975-1990 civil war.
Gunmen from neighboring districts in the northern city of Tripoli — one
largely Sunni Muslim, the other largely Alawites, a Shiite Muslim
offshoot — fought each other, causing two of the fatalities.

Scary shit!

Comments

  1. Robert Fisk had an article in the Independent today. He got in a smear on the non-Auon Christians by claiming they were allies of Israel and committed the Sabra and Chatilla massacres (which, OK, they did but let it go Bob!), but some how failed to blame Israel and America for the violence. So do you think Bobby has turned over a new leaf? I expect not. I’d put my money on him coming up with a conspiracy theory. I reckon we ought to give him a hand and explain how this is all the fault of the Jooos. Perhaps Bob ought to bear in mind that Abu Huraira was a converted Jew. Which proves, obviously, Sunni Islam is a vast Jewish conspiracy. Hence the resistance to Hezbollahs perfectly reasonable demands that they should run the country.

    Just a quick note to all the French people: this is your future. Enjoy watching it before it comes to Paris.

  2. Merde alors, seems you miss some pupils, ah wait, theyr all in the street putting your car in fire

  3. Scary indeed. Increasingly, it looks like king abdullah was right on the money: three civil wars in the m.e.

  4. HeiGou, are you suggesting that there is violence in the middle-east that is not the fault of the Jews? You zionist bastard :)

    I am still waiting for crowds to take the streets in Quebec screaming “We are all Hezbollah now”

    Any moment now.

  5. They may not take to the streets screaming it, but I’m sure those same Lebanese Quebecers (Quebecois, whatever) are still thinking it, the morons. I wonder if the ones who went back after the Hezbollah/Israel war are going to expect the government of Canada to come get them again?

  6. “He got in a smear on the non-Auon Christians by claiming they were allies of Israel and committed the Sabra and Chatilla massacres (*which, OK, they did* but let it go Bob!),”

    Wait here a minute…. Are you saying that all of us Lebanese Christians that don’t support Aoun are murderers and were in those camps killing Palestinians?

  7. “Just a quick note to all the French people: this is your future. Enjoy watching it before it comes to Paris. ”

    *yawn This shit has happened in the US, big whupteefuckingdoo, stop sensationalizing you clown.

    Instead of Muslims, it was black people rioting, not just in LA but also in New Orleans as well.

  8. Puniqe Says:”Wait here a minute…. Are you saying that all of us Lebanese Christians that don’t support Aoun are murderers and were in those camps killing Palestinians?”

    Abolsutely. Didn’t you get the memo? Hate speech is only wrong when it applies to, you know, the pathetic and/or the guilty. You Christians you have jobs and so miss out on the pathetic, and you didn’t kill enough Palestinians to be guilty. So hate speech directed at you is fine.

    DH Says:”*yawn This shit has happened in the US, big whupteefuckingdoo, stop sensationalizing you clown. Instead of Muslims, it was black people rioting, not just in LA but also in New Orleans as well.”

    Black people share a common culture with White people in America. They did not, as it happens, riot in New Orleans whatever the media claimed. Their birth rate is not that high. There are not 250 million of them a 3 hour boat trip away. They are not going to become a majority any time soon in the US. And actually if it comes down to it, they are much more oriented towards education, hard work, and even law abiding. America has a small number of Fortune 500 companies with Black CEOs. Where in the West is there one Arab Muslim in an equivalent position?

  9. There are not 250 million of them a 3 hour boat trip away

    a raven of evil omen won’t tell better propheties,

    don’t worry, we will all go down to the south cause of climate changes, there will be 400 million of us looking for the desert

  10. “Black people share a common culture with White people in America.”

    Sorry, a culture of victimhood does not constitute as a common culture with white people, get a clue.

    Most black people are too busy listening to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson than to do any

    “They did not, as it happens, riot in New Orleans whatever the media claimed.”

    They rioted and looted who the fuck are you trying to kid?

    Go to Houston and see how much NOLAs are despised for increasing the crime rate. Propery values have diminished greatly since their arrival.

    “Their birth rate is not that high.”

    And neither is the Muslim community here in America. Hell, the Hispanic community has a much higher birthrate and they are bound to take over the Southwestern states, as the far-right tend to claim.

    “There are not 250 million of them a 3 hour boat trip away.”

    But there are 100 million of them just a border away.

    “They are not going to become a majority any time soon in the US.”

    Neither are Muslims, who are you trying to kid?

    Just because you read some blog by a self-hating Arab who’s really looking for fame and fortune, that makes it automatically true? LOL

    “And actually if it comes down to it, they are much more oriented towards education, hard work, and even law abiding.”

    Not true. If it were like that, they wouldn’t be crying about how the white man is oppressing them, or how they can’t get jobs, or or how they have such abysmal rates of education. Why don’t you go look at New Orleans and see how stupid they are, stupid enough to re-elect a moron who did not even have a plan ready?

    I bet that you don’t even live in the US. Come to Dearborn, where a majority of the businesses there are owned by Arab Muslims. Polls indicate that American Muslims are wealthier and more likely to hold a college degree than Americans in general. Go look at the health sector, dominated mainly by South Asian Muslims. More engineers and doctors are Muslims, who are you trying to kid?

    One in three claiming an income over $75,000 a year

    If that was really true, then you wouldn’t see so many of them on welfare, and that is a FACT.

    “America has a small number of Fortune 500 companies with Black CEOs. Where in the West is there one Arab Muslim in an equivalent position?”

    Ever heard of Safi Qureshy? The late Ahmet Ertegun, co founder of Atlantic Records?

    Who are you to say that American Muslims are what you describe? American Muslims have done a lot more for America than the native blacks have. When has a single group of American Muslims ever rioted in the same fashion as blacks have been? You make me laugh you ignorant fool. American Muslims are not like the Muslims in Europe, and you know it. And Muslims in America are here to stay, so deal with it.

    “Wait here a minute…. Are you saying that all of us Lebanese Christians that don’t support Aoun are murderers and were in those camps killing Palestinians?”

    No but there are a lot of Lebanese Christians who would support murdering Palestinians en masse. If you don’t believe so, then you are delusional, sorry to say. I haven’t heard that many Maronites denounce the Phalangists for what they did in those camps, and sorry, no one is going to forget a disgusting war crime committed against women and children over the assasination of a leader.

    Most people here believe killing civilians is alright as long as they are Muslims, since you know, the life of a Muslim is worth far less than others. /sarcasm

  11. “but some how failed to blame Israel and America for the violence. So do you think Bobby has turned over a new leaf?”

    He probably thought that was so apparent that it didn’t need mentioning.

    “No but there are a lot of Lebanese Christians who would support murdering Palestinians en masse. ”

    Wouldn’t suprise me to find a lot of ALL Lebanese supported murdering Palestinians and each other, en masse.

  12. “Most people here believe killing civilians is alright as long as they are Muslims, since you know, the life of a Muslim is worth far less than others.”

    Well teh American muslims seem to have well learned, and trying to outdo, American blacks at their own game of playing the victim and ‘woe-is-me’.

  13. H Says:
    January 25th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
    “Just because you read some blog by a self-hating Arab who’s really looking for fame and fortune, that makes it automatically true? LOL”

    SM is self-hating? Tell us more.

  14. Yes. Does SM practice S&M? Does he like to be subjucated? Does he lash himself when he gets naughty thoughts?

    Missed this one earlier “Most black people are too busy listening to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson than to do any”

    I’d say most black people are too busy listening to 50 cent, G Unit and all the otha ganstas to give a shit what Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson say

  15. “No but there are a lot of Lebanese Christians who would support murdering Palestinians en masse. If you don’t believe so, then you are delusional, sorry to say. I haven’t heard that many Maronites denounce the Phalangists for what they did in those camps, and sorry, no one is going to forget a disgusting war crime committed against women and children over the assasination of a leader.

    Most people here believe killing civilians is alright as long as they are Muslims, since you know, the life of a Muslim is worth far less than others. /sarcasm”

    You are so wrong it is beyond belief. Very few people at all support what happened in those camps.

    It was 200 people under the command of Elie Hobeika who went into those camps to clear out remaining fighters hiding among the civilians and took the opportunity to kill a good number of teh civilians themselves instead.

    Elie Hobeika was a pro-Syrian double-agent who openly went over to the Syrian side in the war after Samir Geagea (the current leader of the LF) kicked him out of LF in 86. You will have an extremely hard time finding anyone in Lebanon, least of christians, and absolute least of all non-Aoun supporting christians who have anything even remotely good to say about that piece of human trash.

    The current LF party today (which is still only a portion, albeit the biggest, of the many Christians who don’t support Aoun) has absolutely nothing to do with the people who went into those camps.

    And by the way, what is thing with always bringing up Maronites? As if they were the only christians in Lebanon, or they were different from the other christians. They must really annoy you for your kind to always bring them up as the big bad boogeyman…

  16. BrooklynJon says:

    Puniqe,

    Wait a second. Information, please. Are you saying that the Sabra and Shatilla massacres, which were actually carried out by the Phalangists, but are routinely blamed on the Israelis, were actually done by a group led by a Syrian agent? Is this true? And is there any corroborating evidence for this? Or am I missing something?

  17. H Says:”Sorry, a culture of victimhood does not constitute as a common culture with white people, get a clue. Most black people are too busy listening to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson than to do any”

    If Black Americans only had a culture of victimhood that would be plausible. But they don’t. They also have a culture of self-reliance which led James Brown to, for instance, endorse Nixon. Blacks are English speaking Christians (by and large). They do not eat exactly the same food, or listen to the same music or watch the same TV even, but the gap between Black and White America is vastly smaller than between Christian and Muslim French people or even Lebanese.
    H Says:”And neither is the Muslim community here in America. Hell, the Hispanic community has a much higher birthrate and they are bound to take over the Southwestern states, as the far-right tend to claim.”

    What relevance is any of that? I am sure the Mexicans are going to take back the West. Good for them.

    H Says:”But there are 100 million of them just a border away.”

    Sure but European civilisation can survive Mexican domination. They too share much of the same culture. It cannot survive Muslim domination. France will go the way of Syria and Turkey. The US will just look like Brazil.

    H Says:”Neither are Muslims, who are you trying to kid?”

    I have not claimed Muslims will – in the United States. They will be soon enough in France.

    H Says:”Not true. If it were like that, they wouldn’t be crying about how the white man is oppressing them, or how they can’t get jobs, or or how they have such abysmal rates of education. Why don’t you go look at New Orleans and see how stupid they are, stupid enough to re-elect a moron who did not even have a plan ready?”

    There is no logical or intellectual value in those claims at all. They cry because it pays and would do so regardless, as long as it pays. Just as CAIR does.

    H Says:”Polls indicate that American Muslims are wealthier and more likely to hold a college degree than Americans in general. Go look at the health sector, dominated mainly by South Asian Muslims. More engineers and doctors are Muslims, who are you trying to kid?”

    Catholics are wealthier than White Protestants in America. Big deal. America has cherry picked Muslim immigrants taking on the best and brightest. Which is not saying much I agre. More doctors and engineers are Muslim than what exactly? Everywhere in the world, Muslims lag. They do so especially in education. Perhaps there has been too much cousin-marriage. Who knows? But a Christian or Buddhist country of equal wealth to a Muslim country will probably be about 25% more literate. Deny it all you like.

    Me:”America has a small number of Fortune 500 companies with Black CEOs. Where in the West is there one Arab Muslim in an equivalent position?”

    H Says:”Ever heard of Safi Qureshy? The late Ahmet Ertegun, co founder of Atlantic Records?”

    What bit of “Arab Muslim” do you not understand? Qureshy is a Pakistani and Ertegun is a Turk. Not that they are comparable to Times-Warner.

    H Says:”Who are you to say that American Muslims are what you describe? American Muslims have done a lot more for America than the native blacks have.”

    There are native Blacks? I disagree as it happens. I think that everywhere in the West, Muslims are prone to violence, unemployment, ill education and now terrorism. The nett benefit of Muslim immigration to the West is probably a massive deficit. We’d be better off if we let none in. I’d like to see you attempt to prove otherwise. Blacks would be an interesting argument.

    H Says:”sorry, no one is going to forget a disgusting war crime committed against women and children over the assasination of a leader.”

    Sure. Not because it is a war crime but because Christians did it to Muslims. When Muslims do it to Christians no Muslims give a damn.

    H Says:”Most people here believe killing civilians is alright as long as they are Muslims, since you know, the life of a Muslim is worth far less than others. /sarcasm”

    Indeed. As long as the killers are Muslims, no one gives a damn. Look at the utter silence over Dafur.

  18. “BrooklynJon Says:
    January 26th, 2007 at 7:07 am
    Puniqe,

    Wait a second. Information, please. Are you saying that the Sabra and Shatilla massacres, which were actually carried out by the Phalangists, but are routinely blamed on the Israelis, were actually done by a group led by a Syrian agent? Is this true? And is there any corroborating evidence for this? Or am I missing something?”

    Hobeika was kicked out of the LF in 1986 by Samir Geagea in an internal uprising within the party, at which point Hobeika openly joined the Syrian side with the tiny fragment of the party that went with him and remained pro-Syrian until he was assassinated in the 90s. As far as him collaborating with them as far back as 82 there isn’t much hard evidence, but there was a book by one of his men (Robert Maroun Hatem aka ‘Cobra’) that came out in the 90s that made that claim.

    Either way, even if he wasn’t yet at that time, it still doesn’t change the fact that he is a murderer and a traitor, and that it was him and a handful of his men that were responsible for this, not the LF itself or the current leader of the LF, Samir Geagea.

  19. Heigou is making his statments behing his computer, I bet he never met a french muslin out of his TV screen and his biased lectures of what is going on there ; keep your nightmares for yourself, your the only one who are not projecting himself in the future, at least your looking for a death scenario ; , it would be a good idea if youd make it a science-fiction novel, but I expect, with your style, it will boring anyone with good will

  20. By the way, that Lebanese christian hating Fisk likes to talk about Sabra and Shatila? Why doesn’t he talk about what they did to us? Why doesn’t he talk about the Damour? About the Shouf? I know from one of his articles that he was in Bhamdoun (my home town) in 1983 with Palestinian militias, who helping the Druze, entering it when it fell. Why doesn’t he talk about what he must have seen there, and what happened to our neighbors? About the knives, the axes, and the branding irons?

    Chekka, Damour, Bhamdoun w l-Shouf ma m-nensehon!!!

  21. nomad Says:”Heigou is making his statments behing his computer, I bet he never met a french muslin out of his TV screen and his biased lectures of what is going on there”

    Well any time Isabel Adjani wants to come over for a glass of wine and a chat I’d be happy to meet her.

    nomad Says:”keep your nightmares for yourself, your the only one who are not projecting himself in the future, at least your looking for a death scenario ; , it would be a good idea if youd make it a science-fiction novel, but I expect, with your style, it will boring anyone with good will”

    Derision and sneers, while a French speciality, are no suibstitute for rational argument. Look, you’ve lost control of your immigration policy. Even if there was a miracle and something changed, Italy and Spain don’t have any better control. At least a tenth of the French population is Muslim – and that is only counting the legals. Suppose we double that for the illegals and Spanish and Italian Muslims? It is growing at a rapid rate by marrying people back home and much higher birth rates. Just forget it. France will be yet another Arab dictatorship within my life time. Nothing you have ever said even suggests at the possibility of a hint that maybe it will be otherwise.

    Puniqe Says:”By the way, that Lebanese christian hating Fisk likes to talk about Sabra and Shatila? Why doesn’t he talk about what they did to us? Why doesn’t he talk about the Damour? About the Shouf?”

    You’re not pathetic enough. You have jobs. You’re educated. The Left only likes the truly pathetic and helpness. You also do not behead people on the internet. Fisk’s complaint isn’t really about S&S, it is about the *lack* of such attacks. After all, the Left embraced Stalin, the Khmer Rouge, Castro, the PLO, the Baader-Meinhoff Gang etc etc. All the time ignoring the moderate Social Democratic alternative. They just love mass murderers and the Lebanese Christians aren’t good enough at it. Which is why Fish endorses Hezbollah. Try blowing up more innocent children.

  22. about Isabelle Adjani cheering up with you , may-be if your such a good looking man with a wonderful brain, (till yet seen neither ones :D )
    she was born kabyle from her father kabyle (integrated long time ago in France, so it is possible) and german from her mother;
    may be for the new generation, you’ll have to wait a more decade, that’ll make you an elder man, problem with your ego to invite nice looking integrated women :)

    “Look, you’ve lost control of your immigration policy. Even if there was a miracle and something changed, Italy and Spain don’t have any better control. At least a tenth of the French population is Muslim – and that is only counting the legals. Suppose we double that for the illegals and Spanish and Italian Muslims? It is growing at a rapid rate by marrying people back home and much higher birth rates. Just forget it. France will be yet another Arab dictatorship within my life time. Nothing you have ever said even suggests at the possibility of a hint that maybe it will be otherwise.

    our problem of immigration are not coming from muslin arabs, they are more from black africans, who can’t really find a real insertion apart sport or music ;
    I am not afraid of a born french from arab parents, leading our state, so far the majority of them are quiet, and these who can achieve a politic carreer are well educated and consensual with the whole nation

    as I told you previouly, you only notice the scoops on TV, and TV emphasizes the evenments to get customers

    and our immigration coming from north Africa is stagning, since they all look for the american dream

    and the 2nd arab family generation has not much kids than a french origin one has

    so, your living in a wonderful world with your stereotypes, life must go on

  23. nomad Says:”about Isabelle Adjani cheering up with you , may-be if your such a good looking man with a wonderful brain, (till yet seen neither ones :D )”

    Alas not all French women are sophisticated and intellectual.

    Or you would have.

    Besides, al Adjani seems to go more for the total shits as boyfriends. I admit she is a complete psycho herself, but it takes some doing to pick a father for your children who will dump you, while pregnant with his child, by fax. This suggests such a low level of judgement about men that I think I am in with a chance. Right after I have divorce J Lo. It is 2007, it must be my turn to marry her any time now.

    nomad Says:”may be for the new generation, you’ll have to wait a more decade, that’ll make you an elder man, problem with your ego to invite nice looking integrated women :)

    Assuming that those women become integrated and are not kept at home and forced to marry men from back home.

    nomad Says:”our problem of immigration are not coming from muslin arabs, they are more from black africans, who can’t really find a real insertion apart sport or music”

    And yet Christians Africans do noy blow themselves up nor do they bomb the Metro. Your problems are not Africans. As long as they are not Muslims.

    nomad Says:”I am not afraid of a born french from arab parents, leading our state, so far the majority of them are quiet, and these who can achieve a politic carreer are well educated and consensual with the whole nation”

    Sure. Now they are quiet. They cannot win now and they know it. But France has reached a point where the Muslims want to test their muscle and in the suburbs they are doing just that. 250 burning cars a night is not quiet. Where are there any Beurs in French politics?

    nomad Says:”and the 2nd arab family generation has not much kids than a french origin one has”

    How do you know? France does not keep figures on such things. What we know is that 1. France has the highest number of legal Muslims in Europe. 2. Muslims tend to have more children (their women being so poorly educated). 3. France has the highest birth rate in Europe. I suggest that the French birth rate is high because the French Muslim birth rate is really high. Welcome to your future – Lebanon.

  24. “Alas not all French women are sophisticated and intellectual.”
    fortunately, I am not alike, you should know that is better to adopt a lower profile to get a chance to be understood everywhere, thus I am not showing of my degrees, which, of course, are not in english writing

    as far as Adjani, dunno if she could get a chance to catch your nebulous purposes if your are not yourself in front of the cameras, may-be your the one who’ll keep her quiet with your arguments :lol:

    “Assuming that those women become integrated and are not kept at home and forced to marry men from back home.”
    how many cases by now ?

    “Your problems are not Africans. As long as they are not Muslims.”
    what about Halimi’s murdering ?
    Africans are more likely tending to get into gangs since the “whites” ar their major antipathy (ie aka tribe, Dieudonné & consorts))

    “But France has reached a point where the Muslims want to test their muscle and in the suburbs they are doing just that. 250 burning cars a night is not quiet. Where are there any Beurs in French politics?”
    how old were the rioters ? 12 to 18 , cause they are ot charged by court till their majority, and what a fun to bun cars when your a bored kid with no expectation for a job !

    “How do you know? France does not keep figures on such things. What we know is that 1. France has the highest number of legal Muslims in Europe. 2. Muslims tend to have more children (their women being so poorly educated). 3. France has the highest birth rate in Europe. I suggest that the French birth rate is high because the French Muslim birth rate is really high. Welcome to your future – Lebanon. ”
    they are registrated in every city halls
    1& 2) may-be, but they aren’t the less educated, and certainly not their girls, who want definitely not depend on their family
    3) that includes the whole country, but you like to recall your old “fadeses”
    keep Lebanon out of this blabla, he has nothing in commun, political situation communauties, geographic situation…interactions with neighbourghood !

    you definitely not know our country,and none actually in your situation of civil fonction somwhere in EU ; now I am more worried of EU destiny with poeple like you :lol:

  25. nomad Says:”as far as Adjani, dunno if she could get a chance to catch your nebulous purposes if your are not yourself in front of the cameras, may-be your the one who’ll keep her quiet with your arguments :lol:

    Oh my purposes ain’t nebulous.

    nomad Says:”how many cases by now ?”

    I don’t know. How long is a piece of string – how much is too much?

    nomad Says:”how old were the rioters ? 12 to 18 , cause they are ot charged by court till their majority, and what a fun to bun cars when your a bored kid with no expectation for a job !”

    And your point is what exactly? Do you even have one? Where do you think this leads except to radicalisation?

    nomad Says:”they are registrated in every city halls”

    The fact of the birth perhaps but if the French government keeps records of their religions, or even their first language, that would surprise me. So the fact is you all don’t know what percentage of the French population is about as French as McDonald’s.

    nomad Says:”1& 2) may-be, but they aren’t the less educated, and certainly not their girls, who want definitely not depend on their family”

    So what? I doubt their families are *asking* them if they’d like to drop out, cook dinner and marry some fat old guy from Aures.

    nomad Says:”keep Lebanon out of this blabla, he has nothing in commun, political situation communauties, geographic situation…interactions with neighbourghood !”

    Lebanon is exactly the future that France will get. It has a lot in common – yet another Christian, even Catholic more or less, Mediterranean country with a large Arab Muslim population. The political situation in Lebanon is better because at least they know what a hole they are in. Tell me about how much better France’s relations with Algeria are compared to Lebanon’s with Syria. IN 1932 Christians were 55 percent of the Lebanese population. In 1983 the US government estimated that Maronites were 16 percent, Greek Orthodox another 5 percent, and 3 percent Greek Catholic. The Druze made up 7 percent, the Sunnis, 27 percent and the Shia 41 percent. More or less. And that was 20 years ago. But you can do just what the Lebanese Christians do – close your eyes and pretend that you are still in a majority, but it is pointless. Lebanon is your future.

  26. And your point is what exactly? Do you even have one? Where do you think this leads except to radicalisation?

    it leads to radicalisation with people like you (ie sarko),
    and I have made my point a few times here and somewhere else,
    so far your repeating always the same arguties, your the good one, muslins are the evil, and we are the poor dhimmies, not too bad ! since we are still the nicest place where to live (cf links above)

    relations with Algeria could be OK without the old Bouteflika rear-guard and old french revengers one, but I expect for not very long since they are all getting old and ill !

    don’t mention the GIA, a terrorist element which is still remanent, but it is not only against us, but against algerians too and every western country

    I knew lebanese percentage before you put them here (I did show them last year), and once more , nothing to do with our atheism, catholiscism and islam for a less part included

  27. nomad Says:”it leads to radicalisation with people like you (ie sarko),”

    Good. Not that Sarko is radical. Even Le Pen, who is radical, does not send his followers out to blow people up – so there is radical and then there is “radical”.

    nomad Says:”and I have made my point a few times here and somewhere else”

    Then why bring it up again?

    nomad Says:”so far your repeating always the same arguties, your the good one, muslins are the evil, and we are the poor dhimmies, not too bad ! since we are still the nicest place where to live (cf links above)”

    I do not claim all Muslims, or even most of them, are evil. But yes, we are the good ones. We in the West have created all the freedom and democracy in the world that is worth mentioning. We in the West have created most of the world’s science and technology. We have cured hunger and disease because we wanted to. By any rational measure our way of live is worth preserving. And emulating. Soon you will be dhimmis. There is, as I think I may have mentioned before, no point in creating paradise if it only survives two generations. If that. France cannot survive in the real world. It could not survive in the 20th century at all except for US protection. It is living on borrowed time. So enjoy.

    nomad Says:”don’t mention the GIA, a terrorist element which is still remanent, but it is not only against us, but against algerians too and every western country”

    You miss my point. Let’s mention the GIA – an offshoot of a party that would have won the elections if the FLN did not cancel them. So the majority of French Algerians probably support them too. So tell me how you don’t have a problem?

    nomad Says:”I knew lebanese percentage before you put them here (I did show them last year), and once more , nothing to do with our atheism, catholiscism and islam for a less part included”

    Actually it has a lot to do with it. The Lebanese lost the ability to control their borders. And so the Muslims came in. Now the Christians, as the original and indigenous inhabitants, are a minority who are about to disappear from their homeland. Explain to me exactly why you think France will not go the same way? Why should Muslims assimilate to a death culture?

  28. Then why bring it up again?

    reread yourself

    death culture, there we are, what nationality are you ? you did learn french , wasn’t for goods but to undermine our image ? fortunately you represent only yourself, therefore nobody :lol:

    we are not desappearing alike you pretend, we are transforming from a classical culture to a remixed berber, arab, african, east european and arrogant french “pot-pourri”, and that gives a colorful culture, brillant african and arab writers are giving their words and images, east brings their charm and langourous incarnations to renew our inspiration, for the last decades there was nothing in our baskets : that our 21st century, they will melt as a single cultural nation

    culture will save us from getting a situation alike Lebanon or alike our religions time wars

    the majority of algerians in France don’t want trouble, and so far terrorism didn’t come from inland but outside our borders

    our paradise as you call it seems a lot of foreigners appreciate it cause they buy their house there, as far as the US protection, it didn’t last long almost 10 years , we don’t like nannies

  29. “remixed berber, arab, african, east european and arrogant french”

    So your admitting it then. Your willingly giving away your homeland. Wouldn’t be so bad if it was a mutual thing, but it isn’t. But no matter, as the Chinese and South Asians with rule us all very soon. :p

  30. Jason,

    don’t get exited, I just took this image to abound in the general cliché, derision oblige :)

    asians already do anyway ;

  31. hmm i may get excited on occasion but i hope i never get exited

  32. thanks for the correction, sometimes I am too quick or too lazy

  33. nomad Says:”death culture, there we are, what nationality are you ? you did learn french , wasn’t for goods but to undermine our image ? fortunately you represent only yourself, therefore nobody :lol:

    French culture is dead. Embrace the fact. Undermine your image? Why would I have to bother? The French do that more than adequately themselves. I never claimed to represent anyone but myself and, as I may have pointed out before, abusing me won’t make you right.

    nomad Says:”we are not desappearing alike you pretend, we are transforming from a classical culture to a remixed berber, arab, african, east european and arrogant french “pot-pourri”, and that gives a colorful culture, brillant african and arab writers are giving their words and images, east brings their charm and langourous incarnations to renew our inspiration, for the last decades there was nothing in our baskets : that our 21st century, they will melt as a single cultural nation”

    Which is to say France is in transition from a Latin Catholic country to an Arab Muslim one. If you know this why are you complain about what I said?

    Besides, no French writers of note exist. Haven’t for thirty or fourty years. Nor any French philosophers. BHL? Ha! Even French film making is in long term decline.

    nomad Says:”culture will save us from getting a situation alike Lebanon or alike our religions time wars”

    Believe it all you like – superior European civilisation did not save Lebanon and Syria. Culture goes with the demography and French culture is dead anyway.

    nomad Says:”the majority of algerians in France don’t want trouble, and so far terrorism didn’t come from inland but outside our borders”

    They don’t want trouble, but they don’t want to assimilate either. As soon as they have the numbers to flex their muscles they will – and their youth are. Arab culture cannot accept quietly obeying the law. You are a man in the Islamic world only if you humiliate others and stand against the state. As soon as they can, they will.

    nomad Says:”our paradise as you call it seems a lot of foreigners appreciate it cause they buy their house there, as far as the US protection, it didn’t last long almost 10 years , we don’t like nannies”

    It is true a lot of English people go their to die. France does not replace its own and it a land of the living dead. US protection kept the Germans out in 1918 – when the French Army could not. Saved France in 1944. And kept the Soviets on the right side of the German border after 1945. France could not have survived without the US – no children you see. France has been in decline for a long long time. You don’t like nannies but you do not have the will or the courage to do the task yourself. Much better to shelter behind the US while despising them for it. French governments clearly have no more testosterone than French men.

  34. BHL is not considerated as a good writer or philosopher, he is just good for advertising for his white shirts and a repoussoir for his blonde pseudo singer wife

    arab or muslin are concept that bother you, cause you have no nuts to try to assimilate them, and it may be surprising for you, they are becoming french, in many ways, cause unlike you, we do not dispize them

    tell which nationality you come from, then I tell you how is your culture going

    our movies industry is still OK, our films makers are still quite good, and our scenrists are requested in Hollywood :lol: or in the sunnyvale for the videogames industry

    lebanon is far east, remember, not between germany, spain or the atlantic ocean

    english coming are from every age, not only them nederlands, germans, americans, surprising, no !

    and the frenchs say you can go fuck yourself, and try not to meet one of them, cause you’ll have your quater of an hour of your miserable little life !

  35. nomad Says:”BHL is not considerated as a good writer or philosopher, he is just good for advertising for his white shirts and a repoussoir for his blonde pseudo singer wife”

    That was my point. French philosophy has died just like the rest of French culture has died. BHL is what France is left with. Heir of Satre?

    nomad Says:”arab or muslin are concept that bother you, cause you have no nuts to try to assimilate them, and it may be surprising for you, they are becoming french, in many ways, cause unlike you, we do not dispize them”

    They are manifestly not becoming French and they are doing an excellent job of being unassimilable. I don’t even blame them. Why would they want to join a dead culture? It would be necrophilia. The fact that Le Pen gets so many votes suggests what the French really think. Where are there equivalent people in the English-speaking world?

    nomad Says:”our movies industry is still OK, our films makers are still quite good, and our scenrists are requested in Hollywood :lol: or in the sunnyvale for the videogames industry”

    OK? Delusions this strong deserve to be protected as rare and endangered.

    nomad Says:”lebanon is far east, remember, not between germany, spain or the atlantic ocean”

    It is not in the Far East. It is on the other side of a short stretch of water from France. For most of the last 5000 years all the countries around the Mediterranean shared a common culture. Right up to the Islamic conquest. While they were held to the southern shore of the Med, they are not being held there much longer. Soon the entire Med will once again share a common culture. No matter how much you deny it.

    nomad Says:”and the frenchs say you can go fuck yourself, and try not to meet one of them, cause you’ll have your quater of an hour of your miserable little life !”

    I see you are adopting Arab political culture too.

  36. while your are you doing your ” ass monologue”,
    look at this link and listen to “dans ton cul”

    http://mllesane.com/ :lol: