Hamas, Fatah swap hostages

When one reads such pieces of news, and thinks of the state of the "palestinian cause", one doesn't know whether to laugh or cry!

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  1. HeiGou
    January 30, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Interesting to see they are swapping at 1:1. As opposed to the 1000:1 ratio we usually see with Israel. I wonder, is there a market in futures you reckon? Do you think I could set up an Exchange where you could “pre-buy” a hostage bond to release if one of your own got taken or take a punt on Hamas getting so much better than Fatah they’ll have a massive surplus and the price of Fatahmen will go down?

    I mean, there has to be a niche crying out for arbitrage in this growth industry.

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  2. Jason
    January 31, 2007 at 1:35 am

    Hey HeiGou if ya need any startup investors count me in …

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  3. greenmamba
    January 31, 2007 at 3:53 am

    Interesting concept HeiGou. Imagine going short some hostages; maybe I’d just buy puts.

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  4. Olive Picker
    January 31, 2007 at 6:39 am

    SM, Horace Walpole had said that life is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel. I depends on just how smart and/or sensitive you feel.

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  5. HeiGou
    January 31, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Jason Says:”Hey HeiGou if ya need any startup investors count me in …”

    greenmamba Says:”Interesting concept HeiGou. Imagine going short some hostages; maybe I’d just buy puts.”

    Well it is an interesting concept and one I think whose time has come. There are some obvious teething problems to sort out.

    For instance, if someone claimed to have a hostage and wanted to sell him, or at least an option to torture and mutilate him a little, how would investors know he was serious? I mean, does the kidnapper even have the body or not? Markets work on trust and how can you trust a guy just because he says he has a Shia tied up in the trunk of his car? Could we have a Third Party whose job it is to go around verifying that the people who say they have a hostage do, in fact, have a hostage? Perhaps a job opportunity for a retired Canadian general or two? Alternatively we could take possession of the corpus delecti on behalf of the hostage takers, but frankly that looks like a lot of hard work. May even be illegal.

    Alternatively we could go on-line and copy e-Bay so that kidnappers have to log in and their get rated by their customers: you know, 94 percent of people who bought a hostage from the Sami al-Aran Martyrs’ of Kerbala Brigade were satisfied. This would solve the whole trust issue, but there would need to be some track record and it might be hard for someone to break into the market. Alternatively we could insist that any new hostage-takers get some sponsorship from existing hostage takers?

    Then there is the whole issue of payment. I mean, sure, Pay Pal works miracles, but there may be some law enforcement problems and besides, is Pay Pal, you know, Kosher. Or rather Hallal. Do they offer interest and loans? You know I think they do. Which in turn leads to the bigger problem of the lack of social justice. The more complex things, and those where the big money lies, shorts, bonds, derivatives etc etc, tend to involve interest which means that only Jews and Christians can play. So sure, your average Assyrian could re-insure himself by buying an option of a Sunni colonel and half a dozen Shia militia men, but could a Kurd? This might, I would suggest, somewhat limit the market. Can we get a Hallal equivalent of a short contract?

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  6. Jason
    January 31, 2007 at 11:56 pm

    “Markets work on trust and how can you trust a guy just because he says he has a Shia tied up in the trunk of his car? Could we have a Third Party whose job it is to go around verifying that the people who say they have a hostage do, in fact, have a hostage? ”
    Then you said what immediately came to mind “Alternatively we could go on-line and copy e-Bay so that kidnappers have to log in and their get rated by their customers:” LOL
    Maybe we could bribe some destitue Imam to issue a fatwa that in regards to the hostage market, all things are halal?

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  7. Jason
    January 31, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    I think determining the international exchange rates of hostages is the most complex issue.

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  8. HeiGou
    February 3, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    Jason Says:”Maybe we could bribe some destitue Imam to issue a fatwa that in regards to the hostage market, all things are halal?”

    But we have to persuade people to use it, including, of course, the biggest suppliers of hostages. Pious Muslims. Any old Imam wouldn’t do. Think Qaradawi would give us the fatwas we need? I think he might.

    Jason Says:”I think determining the international exchange rates of hostages is the most complex issue.”

    Naaah, that solves itself. It is more or less set anyway – 1 Israeli equals about a billion Palestinians and Lebanese. Israel negotiates with them from time to time and all are agreed.

    About what the market will bare imo.

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