Wife-beating helps keep the family together

In some cases, and only in wife-beating cultures, as says Egypt's Mufti! (h/t Memz )

I love this guy. He and Mahdi Akef can provide me with houres of amusement! 

26 Comments on Wife-beating helps keep the family together

  1. HeiGou
    February 13, 2007 at 10:06 am

    So, he thinks wife beating is fine in Egypt because Egyptian women really respect men who do it, but not in Canada? I guess that makes him a moderate Muslim.

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  2. Rave
    February 13, 2007 at 10:08 am

    If i ever consider being suicide bomber , that guy is on Top of my “to bomb” list.

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  3. kinzi
    February 13, 2007 at 11:39 am

    Oh please. Women like to be beaten as an expression of male stength? Isn’t that what sex is for? Yeesh, pity the poor wife of this guy.

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  4. Babs
    February 13, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    While watching that I wanted to sneak up behind him and smash his brains out. Hey, I don’t live in Canada so it’s all right, yes?

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  5. tedders
    February 13, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    So if I go and beat the crap out of that human pile of filth, he’ll respect me afterward?

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  6. Tom Katt
    February 13, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    I think the real point of this isn’t what he’s saying, but that he’s saying it. Every time I see a report about some extremist muslim rant (cat food, whatever), there seems to be some obligatory comment about how this doesn’t represent mainstream ‘moderate’ islam. Yet, there seem to plenty of these folks, and they don’t seem to be honestly challenged by their society. THAT is the real issue.

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  7. Tom Katt
    February 13, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    To put that into perspective, even though the conservative christian right in the US may attempt to force it’s misguided philosophies upon everybody, you simply have to take away theireth and male hookers and they shut right up.

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  8. Tom Katt
    February 13, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    oops, had a typo at ‘their meth’…

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  9. HeiGou
    February 13, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    tedders Says:”So if I go and beat the crap out of that human pile of filth, he’ll respect me afterward?”

    You laugh but remember the guy praying for Saddam, that great Arab hero, despite the fact that Saddam killed his brother and his uncle. There’s a Morocccan proverb about kissing the hand that beats you, and a Pashtun one that says wherever there is the sound of a blow, there is respect. The anthropological argument goes that in an aggressively levelling, shame-based society, no adult male will willingly admit that he is inferior to any other adult male in any way whatsoever. So the only way to accept authority is if it is so over-whelmingly powerful and terrifying that no reasonable person can be expected to defy it and hence to obey has no shame.

    So, yes, I think if you beta him to a pulp he’d love you.

    Tom Katt Says:”I think the real point of this isn’t what he’s saying, but that he’s saying it. Every time I see a report about some extremist muslim rant (cat food, whatever), there seems to be some obligatory comment about how this doesn’t represent mainstream ‘moderate’ islam. Yet, there seem to plenty of these folks, and they don’t seem to be honestly challenged by their society. THAT is the real issue.”

    There is no mainstream moderate Islam – or at least none that is worth mentioning. It may arise in the future. There are some in the West who are struggling with the concept. But right now, there are Muslims who believe and Muslims who do not or at least only on a Friday. Of those who believe, there are Muslims with guts and Muslims without guts. And that is it.

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  10. Chip
    February 13, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    Personally I believe in beating the crap out of anyone called imam, mullah, or ayatollah. And not lightly either.

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  11. HeiGou
    February 13, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    Chip Says:”Personally I believe in beating the crap out of anyone called imam, mullah, or ayatollah. And not lightly either.”

    But won’t David Bowie be upset if you attack his wife?

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  12. Tom Katt
    February 13, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    HeiGou Says “But won’t David Bowie be upset if you attack his wife?”

    He may whack you with a pair of those huge platform shoes from the glam rock era. Actually, I think the wife is for show, he seems, um, ‘alternative’ to me :)

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  13. D.B Shobrawy
    February 13, 2007 at 6:31 pm

    All of you have this guy all wrong ;) He’s telling you what eddie murphy told us years ago, which basically says there are different standards for how you deal with your wife depending on where you live. If she is born and raised in the middle east and then you take her out of her natural enviornment, to lets say……chicago. Then you might have a problem, see for yourself

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=QrOn4PqDxRg

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  14. deprived
    February 13, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    I’m beginning to think that there is a lot of mental retardation in the middle east.

    Feb. 11, 2007 13:24
    Muslim worshippers stone their own buses
    By REBECCA ANNA STOIL

    Following the afternoon prayers at the Temple Mount a group of approximately 150 Muslim Israeli men and women threw rocks at the buses that had been sent to take them home.

    A crowd chanted, “Allah is great,” while pelting the buses which were waiting near the Rockefeller Museum.

    Police forces were accompanying the worshippers and said that no additional incident occurred during or after the prayer service.

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  15. HeMadeMeDoIt
    February 14, 2007 at 12:37 am

    O Fuck thats sad! I shared the Mufti’s wisdom with a couple of my Canadian friends (I unfortunately live in the land where women beating is illegal thank god) and noone could believe how the Egyptians were more civilized 7000 years ago then we are today…..

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  16. tedders
    February 14, 2007 at 2:32 am

    HeiGou Says:
    So, yes, I think if you beta him to a pulp he’d love you.

    Sounds resonable to me, lets try it!! Or maybe one of those daisy cutters?
    Then we can pray for his soul (shit be upon him)

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  17. deprived
    February 14, 2007 at 2:55 am

    #7 TomKat
    …”To put that into perspective, even though the conservative christian right in the US may attempt to force it’s misguided philosophies upon everybody”…

    How come someone always brings up the ‘Christian right’ whenever a retarded muslim says or does something insane? Give me instances where they have imposed, forced, blown up, on you or anyone. Also you can explain what makes the Judeo-Christian philosophy ‘misguided’ compared to your own.

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  18. Jack
    February 14, 2007 at 4:24 am

    “their meth and their male hookers”??? You are blatantly stereotyping christians according to the more visible follys of famous ones. I personally think this guy is certifiable but that’s just me….

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  19. kinzi
    February 14, 2007 at 6:43 am

    Thanks Jack and deprived..

    Tom Katt, perspective? Kindof skewed thinking. I don’t think anyone from the Christian right has ever said it’s ok for men to beat their wives, or called women meat, practiced honor killing.

    If you think this guy is comparable to the Christian right, try living in an even ‘moderately’ Muslim country, like I do, and you’d be begging to live under the tyranny of George Bush in four days.

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  20. HeiGou
    February 14, 2007 at 11:10 am

    deprived Says:”I’m beginning to think that there is a lot of mental retardation in the middle east.
    Muslim worshippers stone their own buses
    By REBECCA ANNA STOIL”

    That is nothing. When a crazed Christian set the al-Aqsa mosque on fire in 1969 (you know, the one the Muslims are complaining about now because Israel is fixing a ramp?), the local Muslims cut the firemen’s hoses as they attempted to put the fire out.

    Retardation has a long long long history in the Middle East.

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  21. naomi
    February 14, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    Did ya’ll pull this crusty ole dude out of a nursing home, doll him up, tell him to say a few things, put it on YouTube, then roll him back on down to where he really lives with other old fogies out of their gourds doing the thorazine shuffle? Newsflash: beating anyone is bad. Bad bidness all around. It festers, is infectious, and usually ends with a big bang or a fire and death. I find it simply astounding that in 2007 someone can utter these words with a straight face. Simply astounding. I know there are undeveloped areas of the globe where this is normal. I don’t understand why us developed nations can’t come together to resolve such simple issues instead of pursuing the silly things we argue about everyday… … God is love. Love is patient. We all carry the residue of God on us. Wish we could behave like it more often.

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  22. HeiGou
    February 17, 2007 at 10:53 am

    The Sudanese Thinker:” I’m really getting sick and tired of all these so called “scholars” who interpret the “beating verse” in their own twisted way. I vehemently oppose them. We need more Laleh Bakhtiars: Laleh Bakhtiar, whose English translation of the Qur’an (the first done by a woman) is due out in the spring, brings the session of ijtihad to a close by discussing what she learned about the Qur’an through personal study. Take the controversial verse 4:34. Conventional translation of it reads, “Husbands who fear adversity on the part of wives, admonish them, leave their bed, and beat them.””

    Surely the traditionalists are the ones who are interpreting the Quran exactly as it is, and it is scholars like Laleh Bakhtiar who is interpreting it in her own twisted way? The verse does say beat them after all. What other interpretation is there?

    I don’t want to suggest Islam is evil, but it is what it is and unfortunately it is not what everyone would always want. I don’t see denying that is a sensible policy.

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