Retarded Haartez article

I can't figure out what the writer wants to say in this article: is he defending Egypt? Against who? Israeli intelligence people who wanna wage war against it? What? Since when? And over who? Hamas? As if Egypt likes Hamas? The egyptian president never met with Heniyah even when Gaza was still under Fatah "control". What are they talking about?

Maybe it was just badly written. Hmm.. 

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  1. Pheras Hilal
    October 31, 2007 at 10:24 am

    Yes, you’re right. In the first lead, the writer says that Egypt is helping out Hamas by establishing underground tunnels and pathways to help smuggle weapons to Palestinian Islamic groups. Then, the writer concludes that Egypt would never try to help Hamas, especially that its regime opposes the MB. But what I understand is that he is questioning the credibility of the intelligence forces in Israel. Anyway, the article is quite confusing; there are too many things happening.

  2. Yossi Gurvitz
    October 31, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    He is referring to a media campaign which portrayed Egypt as an active enemy, which was on all media outlets here a few weeks back, and which called for “tougher Israeli measures”. Basically, he’s using sarcasm to defuse the claims that Egypt knowingly allows Hamas to smuggle weapons into the Strip.

    There’s a growing feeling that the army just wants to go to war against *someone*, to prove it’s not as impotent as the public thinks it is.

  3. AF
    October 31, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    It seems pretty straight forward to me. He is basically saying that the israeli intelligence people are picking a fight just for the heck of it. Egypt has no interest in helping out hamas because they are fighting their own extremist groups in sinai and they are no friends of the MB. And if Israel wasn’t able to control the border when they were in charge there, how can Egypt do it when they are not even allowed to increase their security presence on the border. In conclusion he is saying that Egypt is an important ally so their intel people should take it easy on the pointless rhetoric.

  4. liamalpha
    November 1, 2007 at 12:26 am

    Ha’aretz is a left-wing newspaper that went off the rails a while ago. They’ll publish anything to blackface Israeli policies, including unbased claims such as “Israel is picking a war with Egypt”.
    A war with Egypt will be such a disaster for Israel on so many levels, that clearly nobody in his right mind in the Israeli establishment would contemplate it. The political price will be enormous: Why spoil a longest lasting peace with the largest Arab country? As if we haven’t got our hands full with Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria already.
    Then off course there’s the price in human life: The Egyptian army is big, modern and well equipped. There will be thousands of lives lost in a war with it, and the outcome will not necessarily be on the Israeli side. Look how much effort Israel is putting into bringing back 3 kidnapped soldiers (their loss is felt daily nationwide), and ask yourself if this country wants to see 3000 of its sons dead.

    However, I think Egypt is definitely playing Hamas against Israel. Egypt wants to see Israel weak and troubled, and it is very convenient for her to have Hamas as a troublemaking agent.

    It’s a pity so many readers in Israel and the World so readily believe such boldfaced accusations in the media, if they’re directed against Israel.

  5. Nadav
    November 5, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Zvi Barel is a dumbass. Haaretz is an atagonist paper written FOR dumbasses. the downside of democracy is that the dumbasses have an equal right to speak out. or maybe that’s an upside…?

  6. Fady
    November 6, 2007 at 6:44 am

    Correction: Mubarak did meet with Ismail Haniya before, but still he definitely wants to take Egypt in a direction which is against Hamas and all Islamic movements.

    But I don’t think the average Egyptian will ever stop supporting Hamas and the Palestinians, facing the same the bloody terrorism and supremacism Egyptians faced before.

  7. SamSeven
    November 7, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    I think it is a brilliant article. There should be more articles like this one, this is precisely the demeanor required to avoid picking a fight.

    I mean when Israel mocks the Arabs it is counter productive, when the Arabs mock Israel it is also counter productive. Considering Egypt & Israel as allies is the right receipe for peace, screw picking a fight.

    However the author took a terrible jab at Israel at the end, or at least at the IDF & Intelligence services by saying that But someone is apparently itching to get to the Aswan Dam.

    This is what triggered sandmonkey I suppose to comment & save face to his Israeli audience. We should learn from the buddy system–you scratch my back & I’ll scratch yours.

    Just like climate change, another Arab Israeli war is innevitable unless we all take the necessary measures to avoid it.

  8. leo
    November 26, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    “Just like climate change, another Arab Israeli war is innevitable unless we all take the necessary measures to avoid it.”

    I find this most confusing.

    Can we avoid climate change?

    However, I agree with this: “we all take the necessary measures to avoid it (war).”


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