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December 11, 2007 By 11 Comments

Just watch this Hillary for Change ad and laugh with me!

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  1. John Cunningham says:
    December 11, 2007 at 2:24 pm

    If you play the stock market I’d put my money into ear plug manufacturers. There’s going to be a run on ear plugs if she wins. But, she’ll probably outlaw the use of ear plugs. Talk about torture, she has a voice like having a rusty railroad spike driven through your ear.

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  2. Nomad says:
    December 11, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    you can still invest in rotten eggs :lol:

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  3. Methinks says:
    December 11, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Healthcare for everyone [in the amount that they want/need] at a price they can afford! HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

    Way to play on the general population’s ignorance of basic economics. I hate Hillary so much.

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  4. qqq says:
    December 11, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    does she actually have a plan for the healthcare??? a budget?? where does she expect to get the funding for universal healthcare…. plus, i spoke to several in the pharmaceutial industries.. the medical reps are all afraid of losing their jobs… since they say she will stop research!! i am not sure how, but if anyone has more info, please share, as this is quite disturbing!! we need to keep research, and keep doctors aware of what medications are available, and what trials are going on…. so if she cuts that… us healthcare will be universal, but the quality will be extremely poor!!! any idea what is going on?

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  5. christina/ohio says:
    December 11, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    I just can’t stand the sound of her voice!

    Of course she has a plan….she needs the rest of the place settings from the china(engraved to John and Abigale Adams which they swore they thought was their’s) they took the first trip in so she’ll have the matched set!

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  6. Methinks says:
    December 11, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    qqq,

    I’ll write about the healthcare thing. Check back here tomorrow.

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  7. ella says:
    December 12, 2007 at 3:31 am

    qqq
    Medical reps are afraid of losing their jobs, but not because she may stop research. Med reps get paid, I assume, for the sales of new medications, so if there would be less sales of new, brand name medications and more people would buy generic medications the sales reps will lose jobs.
    On the other hand pharmaceutical companies include in the cost of medication not only cost of research but also costs of advertisements and the costs of other pharmaceutical products which did not reach market for various reasons – failure of clinical trials is one of them.
    I really do not think that universal healthcare will stop pharmaceutical research, thought it may negatively reflect on insurance business, particularly on medical insurance business.
    That said, I also wonder – does she have some specific plan?

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  8. christina/ohio says:
    December 12, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    I do not want universal healthcare. That only really works for people who are healthy, don’t get sick when the government gets to decide who lives and dies! I think most Americans have been lead down a rosey path and not told the truth about how it really is and why people who can afford it come to America to be treated. Besides the Dimocraps have been promising you fools the same thing since 1968 and even when they have held all houses of Congress and the WH couldn’t do it and won’t ever do it because of the cost, but you all fall for it every 4 years over and over.

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  9. vagabondblogger says:
    December 13, 2007 at 12:15 am

    qqq: Hillary plans on “garnishing wages” to make people sign up for her health care program.
    I do believe the US should have some sort of healthcare program, but, as someone who’s family is already paying for company healthcare, and healthcare for dependents not in school (one’s working on a political campaign – not Hillary’s), I don’t feel we should have to contribute anymore. I do believe all children and pregnant women should be covered. I also think, that if healthcare was affordable to more people, then perhaps some preventive measures / medicine could be employed to avoid the emergency room or progressive disease problems. I don’t have a fix, but I am open to something that does not cost my family even more money than we’re already paying. Plus, let me add, our program is excellent, and I’m not interested in any drop in quality either.

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  10. Methinks says:
    December 13, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    “I really do not think that universal healthcare will stop pharmaceutical research,”

    Why not? It did in Europe. Europe was the leader in pharma innovation until socialized healthcare and extreme regulation (including price controls) were imposed on the industry. Now, 90% of pharma innovation happens in the US. Worse, Euorpe is free-riding off the US. Since socialist health systems negotiate below-market prices for the drugs, the US pharma industry must raise prices in the US to make up the difference. That’s why there’s such a price differential between meds in the US and Europe.

    Incidentally, I spent 4 years in and out of hospitals in a socialist healthcare system (universal healthcare). Another name I would give it is “universal crap”. The standard of care doesn’t even BEGIN to compare to the US system. Although, the government has screwed up the US system.

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  11. Methinks says:
    December 13, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    I do believe the US should have some sort of healthcare program, but, as someone who’s family is already paying for company healthcare, and healthcare for dependents not in school (one’s working on a political campaign – not Hillary’s), I don’t feel we should have to contribute anymore. I do believe all children and pregnant women should be covered. – Vagabond

    Be careful what you ask for, Vagabond. Pregnancy is extremely risky. One of the problems of not having to cover the regular costs of pregnancy is that you encourage pregnant women not to take as good care of themselves as they otherwise would. Why? The cost of medical complications is covered by you. It’s not coming directly out of their pocket.

    given this, we have to find a way to “cut costs” because as a taxpayer, you’re not willing to open your purse for strangers to take at will. But the only way to cut costs is to either force doctors to perform procedures at a discount at gunpoint, which is otherwise known as slavery, or to ration the healthcare. Slavery never worked well. Even in the Soviet Union, where doctors were forced to accept way below market wages, they refused to actually perform any procedures until they were paid privately by the individual receiving the treatment. So, we’re left with rationing. But because we’re not paying directly out of pocket (we pay through taxes, whether we use the service or not), the demand for medical service exceeds supply and shortages occur. The shortages in socialized medical systems are so bad that non-elective heart surgery is a two year waiting list. The wait for chemo for breast cancer victims runs 6 months to a year. People over 65 years of age either have to pay for a private clinic for dialysis or take their chances at the state clinic. Since dialysis (like everything else) is rationed, the state clinics have to decide who gets it and who doesn’t – the young usually win out over the old.

    This socialist healthcare model, previously popular in Europe, is what Hillary wants to for our healthcare system. But even Europe is moving toward a private system because socialized medicine is much worse.

    Modern medicine costs so much because its able to do so much. We can keep dead people’s bodies going for YEARS, for God’s sake. We can save 400 gram premature babies. But the cost for this kind of Hail Mary medicine is not cheap. The babies require expensive incubators, round the clock care from highly specialized nurses and doctors (their time and stress alone is a fortune). Those costs will come down over time but new innovations will replace them. Just think about the stuff that’s considered standard treatment now that was expensive and rare just 30 years ago.

    Two other things contribute to our healthcare costs – obesity related diabetes adds $200 Billion of costs and that number is growing by an astonishing amount every year. That’s something individuals can control, btw. The other is the aging of the population. As people get older, they have more health issues (cancer is positively correlated with age, for example).

    Health insurance is made less affordable by state regulators. I was going to write about this myself but then I found this article in the Wall Street Journal. the link is to CAH because you have to have a subscription to read the piece on the WSJ site. I should mention that the author is backing a specific proposal up for deliberation in congress and the site to which I linked seems to be a political action site called “Council for Affordable Healthcare”. I have not seen this site before, nor do I know enough about the proposed bill that the author is backing. I’m only providing the article because the author is correct about the reasons for the disfunction in health insurance. There are other reasons but I’ll have to write about them later as I’m out of time now.

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