What the 911 Truthers sound like to me

Yes people, The Devil didn't do it. Evil is innocent. It's all Good's doing, and it's all God's fault!

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  1. Chip
    December 18, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Ouch. You are going to get some interesting/nasty responses to this, if the troofers get wind of it.

    By the way, fire weakens steel to the point of collapse long before steel melts. And steel buildings do collapse if you cut big chunks out of them with a fuel-laden 737 going 400 (or whatever) mph. Morons.

  2. John Cunningham
    December 19, 2007 at 5:58 am

    Chip, I think they were 757s, which isn’t all that important. And you’re right. There may even be a surprise visit here from Rosie O’Donnell. Two different studies were done two or three years ago and the question was “do you think that the United States attacked itself on 9/11”. Neither knew the other study was being done and each study had a population of 1000. Both studies came up with similar results, I think one was 33% and the other 35%. One can assume that about one-third of the population of 300,000,000 believes this. We probably have 100,000,000 loons in this country. Oh, God, I think they’re also allowed to have children.

  3. Einherjar
    December 19, 2007 at 6:35 am

    Does the official story make any more sense, garden of eden wise I mean?

    God creates people with no knowledge of right and wrong and instructs them not to eat from the tree of knowledge lest they learn it, knowing full well that they don’t know disobeying is wrong. God then strolls off leaving the two of them alone with “the devil in disguise” and the tree, and returns shortly thereafter to exact vengeance. And the point of this exercise is?

  4. John Cunningham
    December 19, 2007 at 6:43 am

    Einherjar, “And the point of this exercise is?” God, I’m afraid to ask. What?

  5. Chip
    December 19, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    John Cunningham

    Half the Democrats in New York, according to one poll, say the U.S. government had knowledge of the attacks in advance.

    The famous memo about attacking in the U.S. was about as useful as OBL’s 1998 fatwa, but people still claim it contained detailed knowledge. It didn’t, but the value of early and heavy propaganda is proven again.

    Of that half I’ll bet at least half are real Troofers, grand conspiracy variety.

  6. yochanan
    December 19, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    The more you hate your country the more you will believe anything TROOTHERS just hate america more

  7. brooklynjon
    December 20, 2007 at 5:19 am

    It really boils down to an ideological predilection to believe or to disbelieve in the essential competence of the government.
    Liberals tend to see the government as essentially competent, and therefore don’t understand the lame response on 9/11, and also consider it possible that such a massive conspiracy could have been kept secret (and still secret).
    Conservatives think the government is incompetent, and so incapable of maintaining secrecy for so long. And its unsurprising that the government couldn’t stop the attacks.

    Me? I think the government can’t do anything right. And I know that hydrocarbon fires have been softening (and melting) metals for thousands of years.

  8. Joan
    December 21, 2007 at 10:38 am

    i think the results reflect the fact third of Americans suspect foul play. and that’s a legitimate argument when considering congressional investigations lead to the conclusion US intelligence agencies had prior knowledge of the assailants’ presence in the US. Add to that the Dancing Israelis who were caught celebrating the terror attack the moment the planes hit the towers, and you have a very compelling argument in favor of internal foul play. Since most Americans are not criminal investigators or forensic experts, they express their doubts in very simplistic terms, such as conspiracy theory.

    The most probable theory is that during the Clinton years, US-Arab and US-Muslim rapprochement was cause for serious alarm among Israeli and Christian fundamentalist groups in the US, who felt this rapprochement can threaten Israel’s role as a the key US ally in the region, and they also witnessed the rapid growth of the number of converts to Islam in the US before 911. Fact is, there was an active effort from within the various US intelligence agencies, led by individuals loyal to Israel and Christian fundamentalist churches, to ensure alarm is never raised so as to trigger action that would have prevented the 911 attacks. the American zionists and Christian fundamentalists had overlapping interests with Al-Qaeda, to destroy the bridges between US and Arab/Musilm world, reverse a decade of rapprochement, and while at it, use attack for regime change that in Israel’s favor.

    That’s what a third of Americans suspect but are unable to articulate.

  9. yochanan
    December 21, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    joan drink kookaid much?

  10. Joan
    December 21, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    One thing that irks me more than the ultra imaginative Conspiracy Theorists, is the High Density dimwits. I mean here you have a Congressional report that says information that was available was not pieced together. There is plenty of room to argue for foul play.

    **”No one will ever know what might have happened had more connections been drawn between these disparate pieces of information. … The important point is that the intelligence community, for a variety of reasons, did not bring together and fully appreciate a range of information that could have greatly enhanced its chances of uncovering and preventing bin Laden’s plan to attack the United States on September 11, 2001,” says the report..**


  11. Nora
    December 21, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    “The important point is that the intelligence community, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, did not bring together and fully appreciate a range of information”

    Now that’s one disturbing quote. Thanks Joan.

  12. Einherjar
    December 21, 2007 at 9:06 pm

    Einherjar, “And the point of this exercise is?” God, I’m afraid to ask. What?

    I’m not a truther if that’s what you’re getting at. The dude in the carton just doesn’t sound like a truther to me, because he’s no less sane than the establishment. No point to the exercise, just a knee-jerk reaction.

  13. RandallJones
    December 23, 2007 at 8:38 am

    Sandmonkey and all those who mock the 911 truthers,

    Have you seen the FBI’s web page of the most wanted poster for Osama Ben Laden?
    There is no mention of 9/11. Why wouldn’t an attack that killed 3,000 people be specifically mentioned?

    Journalist Ed Haas’ investigates this,

    On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
    from http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

    Here is a video of a news report that asks the question: why has Osama Ben Laden not been indicted for 9/11?

  14. brooklynjon
    December 23, 2007 at 8:33 pm


    There is no HARD evidence linking OBL to 9/11 in the sense that there is insufficient evidence for a conviction in an American court of law. That doesn’t mean he didn’t do it (see Simpson, O.J.). It just means that given the stringent evidentiary and other rules of an American courtroom, enough evidence could not be introduced to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that OBL is guilty of ordering the attack. For example, his videotaped statement indicating foreknowledge of the attack and delight at its success, while it is sufficient to convince an actual person that he is a guilty SOB, is insufficient to prove that he actually ORDERED the attack, which is what would get a conviction. Advance knowledge, murky assistance, and celebration afterward confers guilt in reality, but not in the highly artificial situation of a court of law.

  15. Varno
    December 23, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    brooklynjon, i just love the utter hypocrisy (or is it idiocy) of some Amercians. you speak of guilt and lack of proof that OBL ordered 911 yet we all know the US will kill OBL on sight if he is spotted, guilty or not. As a matter of fact, hundreds of innocents have been killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan in pursuit of OBL’s assassination. Heck, tens of thousands perished based on flimsier evidence that Saddam had ties to Al-Qaeda.

    So please, I beg you to spare us your legal-me-civilized crap.

  16. RandallJones
    December 23, 2007 at 11:09 pm


    Adam Gadahn, a former Jew who converted to Islam was charged with treason based on him apppearing in Al Qaeda videos, so why wasn’t Osama Ben Laden charged with the deaths of 3,000 Americans based on the “confession” video?

    This is discussed in this article http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id308.html

  17. brooklynjon
    December 26, 2007 at 4:11 am


    So you consider unintentional killing and intentional killing to be the same thing? And you think Afghanis were better off under the Taliban than they are now? And for disagreeing with you I am a hypocrite and an idiot?

    I was responding to a post by Randall that seems not to be here anymore.

    And you speak to the intellectual inadequacy of your line of reasoning by your ad hominem attacks.

    Do have a lovely day and a very happy holiday season.

  18. CarpetCaptain
    January 26, 2008 at 12:56 am

    The planes that hit the world trade center were 767 and 757 both West coast bound. To those that are unfamiliar with the trip its a 2500 mile 6 hour flight. These planes burn approximatly 8000-10000 liters of fuel per hour and need to have an additional 45 mins of reserve fuel incase of bad weather and a diversion at destination. If some schmuck wants to believe that Bush and Wolfowitz planned all this and killed 3000 Americans on US soil so that they can go invade shithole Afghanistan then le them. It speaks volumes about their sad mental state.

  19. The Mad Ape
    September 13, 2009 at 8:25 am

    So how are all of you Denialists dealing with the discovery of weapons grade nanothermite and nanothermate particulate in all dust samples taken from the WTC collapse?

    How do you loons explain molten metal that continued to stew 1 month after the collapse?

    This was a Black Flag Op and I am tired of you media zombies slamming people for exposing the truth.

    The Mad Ape


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