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Monday, 28 Jan 2008
15 yr old Pal boy climbed communication tower in sheikh zowaid &
hanged Palestinian flag. Boy now detained at police station surrounded
by riot police.
Egyptian Riot Control soldiers hiding behind their shields as rock are getting thrown at them and Hamas gunmen shoot bullets in the air using machine guns.
The Egyptian soldiers getting rocks thrown at them by the palestinians in Rafah.
The Egyptian soldiers starting to throw some rocks back in self-defense.
Overnight Saturday, Egyptian security forces caught
20 Palestinians in Sinai in possession of explosives and electronic
devices which would have enabled them to listen in to the Egyptian
forces' communications networks.
Unarmed Egyptian soldiers trying to seal the borders stopped by Hamas Gunmen with Machine Guns.
The Caption for this picture reads:
A Palestinian Hamas militant, unseen, fires at the direction of
Egyptian police dogs,as Egyptian border guards and riot police officers
try to protect themselves at the border between Egypt and Gaza, in
Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, Friday, Jan. 25, 2008. The gunman killed 3
of the dogs according to witnesses. Hamas-backed militants driving
bulldozers knocked down more Egyptian border fortifications on Friday
in a brazen challenge to Egyptian forces who are trying, with little
success, to gradually reseal the breached border using human chains,
dogs and water cannons. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)
Please note the dead dogs, and the injured Egyptian soldiers- who were fired upon by Hamas terrorists (I refuse to call them anything else)- who are being supported by their colleagues in the Left Top corner of the pic.
At least 36 Egyptian security personnel have been hospitalized,
including some in critical condition, due to incidents with
Palestinians on the breached border with Gaza, Egypt's foreign minister said Saturday.
Ahmed Aboul Gheit told reporters following a meeting with the Egyptian
president and several cabinet ministers that between 10 and 12 riot
police and 26 border guards, including two senior officers, were all in
the hospital.
Yeah….Let's sympathize with Gaza. Support Hamas. Viva Viva Intifidah.. or.. whatever.
Motherfuckers!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I guess I was wrong about the Egyptian riot force… somehow I had the impression they had the ability to storm into a situation and, not being handicaped by any international laws, high courts of justice or basic humanitaric values, get things under control quickly and effieciently.
Although now they seem as… sort of pussies?
I guess their abilities lie in beating up egyptian blogers, rather than actaul border patroling.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Palestinian side: guns, explosives….
Egyptian side: human chains, dogs and water cannons
our poor soldiers :(( Rabena ma3akom
January 28th, 2008 at 10:01 am
This is really sad, don’t you guys have at least ONE crack army regiment that can take control?
Terrorism is prevalent in India too and when the paramilitary forces can’t handle it, the big boys move in and make sure the threat is nullified.
In a democracy, the army is an instrument of the state and not the other way around.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:14 am
you said it.. motherfuckers!
January 28th, 2008 at 10:34 am
@Siddharth
There are treaties that prevent Egypt from deploying army regiments in sinai
January 28th, 2008 at 10:49 am
@ O
Thanks, i didn’t know that…
January 28th, 2008 at 10:57 am
np, The camp david treaties must be reviewed, or else we have no chance of protecting our borders against mass scale invasions like this.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:58 am
5. O: And that is just briliant, ’cause hey… Palestinians only honour treaties when it suits their purposes.
So there you have it - this is pretty much how the west feels when dealing with the arab/muslim world (generally speaking og course). We have (as the egyptians do in this situation) the power to crack down hard on dissidents, but are afraid to use said power for fear of being labelled brutish. The other side has no such qualms, and for some reason they are never chastisized for their actions. Although I feel with the egyptian police force (and their dogs) I feel a slight twinge of gratification that someone else is feeling this injustice for a change! Maybe their reaction will be slightly different the next time…?
January 28th, 2008 at 10:59 am
How long before the Gazans start firing rockets into Egypt?
How are these events being reported in the Egyptian media?
January 28th, 2008 at 11:18 am
@O, treaties can be breached in case of emergency,…
general rule
January 28th, 2008 at 11:25 am
@Suzanne
We can only hope that Mubarak gets that through his head
January 28th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Treaties can be breached at any time, and then become null and void. If Egypt breaches a treaty with Israel, then Israel is no longer bound by the treaty either.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Theres a very prudent saying in Hindi which means ” It’s no use talking to people who only understand the language of violence”.
How true.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:44 am
I warned you kiddo. Little Gaza.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Holy shit.
Thats horrible, poor soldiers, poor dogs.
However I seriously wonder whether or not you are slightly biased here..
” The Egyptian soldiers starting to throw some rocks back in self-defense.”
Yes well I heard on the BBC of Egyptians doing it first with no Palestinains returning fire.And have any Palestinians been killed?
Anyway stupid Hamas should stay out if this now, they are just causing trouble. the border has been opened, people have got supplies. They can’t hope to keep it open forever, although I sympathise with ppl who do.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
“They can’t hope to keep it open forever, although I sympathise with ppl who do.”
The aim is to keep it open long enough to get a good number of Hamas fighters out into Sinai, where Israel’s border is relatively unprotected.
“I heard on the BBC”
Remember that the BBC is pro-Palestininan.
January 28th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
lelly Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Holy shit.
Thats horrible, poor soldiers, poor dogs.
However I seriously wonder whether or not you are slightly biased here..
” The Egyptian soldiers starting to throw some rocks back in self-defense.”
Yes well I heard on the BBC of Egyptians doing it first with no Palestinains returning fire.And have any Palestinians been killed?
LELLY - Let’s say the Egyptians DID throw rocks first - does it occur to you that the Palestinians are invading Egypt and it would be really really OK for Egyptian soldiers to try to protect their homeland? And Palestinian deaths are not going to be reported anywhere unless it can be made to look as if the joooz did it.
January 28th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
The proverbial shoe is now on the other foot.
January 28th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
[...] an die Hamas im Gazastreifen liefert, waehrend es gleichzeitig mit Raketen beschossen wird. Aegypten hat selbstverstaendlich das Recht, ungehalten auf die Verletzung seiner Grenze und Souvera… zu [...]
January 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
our beautiful Egypt is going to be ruined by Hamas….I’m getting nightmares about Egypt turning into a Lebanon type scenario, with Hamas and ele5wan turning it into hell on earth.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Anna, if Hamas operates in a manner in any way similar to the PLO of old (70s-80s), then they will indeed try to turn Sinai into a base of operations - with or without Egypt’s consent. Both Jordan and Lebanon had to live through that, with disastrous consequences.
But I think that Hamas are a bit smarter than that. They won’t overextend their influence unless they’re certain that they have allies firmly in control of Sinai (the Muslim Brotherhood). My guess though is that the current scenario will repeat itself with variations - Hamas take down border, mob goes through, mob goes back… and so it will repeat until the current status quo shifts.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
[...] .. Egyptian Riot Control soldiers hiding behind their shields as rock are getting thrown at them and Hamas gunmen shoot bullets in the air using machine guns. The Egyptian soldiers getting rocks thrown at them by the palestinians in Rafah. The Egyptian soldiers starting to throw some rocks back in self-defense. Unarmed Egyptian soldiers trying to seal the borders stopped by Hamas Gunmen with Machine Guns. The Caption for this picture reads: A Palestinian Hamas militant, unseen, fires at the direction of Egyptian police dogs,as Egyptian border guards and riot police officers try to protect themselves at the border between Egypt and Gaza, in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, Friday, Jan. 25, 2008. The gunman killed 3 of the dogs according to witnesses. Hamas-backed militants driving bulldozers knocked down more Egyptian border fortifications on Friday in a brazen challenge to Egyptian forces who are trying, with little success, to gradually reseal the breached border using human chains, dogs and water cannons. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa) Please note the dead dogs, and the injured Egyptian soldiers- who were fired upon by Hamas terrorists (I refuse to call them anything else)- who are being supported by their colleagues in the Left Top corner of the pic. At least 36 Egyptian security personnel have been hospitalized, including some in critical condition, due to incidents with Palestinians on the breached border with Gaza, Egypt’s foreign minister said Saturday. Ahmed Aboul Gheit told reporters following a meeting with the Egyptian president and several cabinet ministers that between 10 and 12 riot police and 26 border guards, including two senior officers, were all in the hospital. ——————– .. [...]
January 28th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
The BBC has published doctored photos, wept openly, on the air at the death of Arafat, and admitted that they are biased against both Israel and the U.S. in the name of “saving” the Palestinians. With all due respect to the pain the Palestinians have suffered, I don’t believe a single thing the BBC reports on this issue. They ask Palestinians, who of course say, “the Egyptians threw rocks first!” and that’s the only information they bother getting before going to the press.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
P.S., I can’t believe the Palestinians and Hamas are doing this when Egypt so graciously allowed them to enter their country without a fuss. This just goes to show how Hamas operates: give us exactly what we ask for, or we fire on you. It illustrates the complete lack of political and governing skills they possess.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Spot on: http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/
January 28th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Motherfuckers indeed.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I’m sad because nobody agrees with me except for Americans and Israelis. I mean, sure, riots usually involve violence (and this riot is a result of Egyptian forces attempting to seal off a border through which hundreds of thousands are attempting to cross). But this is different because Palestinians are evil! Sure, some - ok, everybody but me - would say that when hundreds of thousands of civilians cross a border, it’s a humanitarian crisis, but I call it an invasion. It’s an invasion because Palestinians are evil. Aren’t I smart?
January 28th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Me again, I’m just really upset that all the Arabs are rallying in support of the Gazan civilians (80% of them are refugees or descendants of refugees, living in complete siege, in very overcrowded conditions… but seriously, they’re totally well off). Anyway, I’m considering changing the name of this blog. What do you all think of “DirtyArab.org” or “ArabsSuck.org”? Which do you think really appeals to the American right? I want them to know that I’m down with adopting and broadcasting racist terms for Arabs.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
To the poser who wrote above me…News flash bro - Egyptians AREN’T Arab, so you’re lame-ass jokes doesn’t work here.
Egypt needs to close the damn border and get the Palestinians out!!! Period!
They’re the ones that fucking elected Hamas to run their country…lol…now they’ve got to figure out how to get out of their own mess. And who elects Terrorists to run their country anyways?? Egypt has enough shit to worry about, we don’t need to pick up every single “Arab” cause out there, when in fact, Egyptians are not, never were and never will be “Arab!” Fucking Nasser!!!!
Besides the brilliant Sandmonkey, why can’t more Egyptians understand this?????
January 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
“Anyway, I’m considering changing the name of this blog. What do you all think of “DirtyArab.org” or “ArabsSuck.org”? Which do you think really appeals to the American right? I want them to know that I’m down with adopting and broadcasting racist terms for Arabs.”
Isn’t this the equivalent of those knee-jerk accusations of anti-Semitism people are always talking about - accusing anyone who doesn’t think Hamas should be shooting at Egyptians as somehow racist against Arabs? How does that make sense? I thought most Egyptians WERE Arabs…?
I don’t think anyone is saying that Palestinians are living in the lap of luxury, or that they’re not in an untenable situation. I think the debate here is Hamas’s decision to open fire on Egyptian soldiers and dogs, Palestinian civilians’ decision to start throwing rocks at same, and the efficacy of such a strategy when Egypt had allowed them to cross the border for food, fuel, cigarettes, livestock, etc. But maybe that’s too nuanced and threatening a conversation for some…I suppose nastiness, wildly exaggerated accusations, and misplaced sarcasm are much better ways to engage with each other in a crisis.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
EgyPeter, oops! I must admit that I also thought many, if not most Egyptians were Arabs. I know many who consider themselves as such, but I shouldn’t have made that assumption either in my rebuttal to the other poster. Anyway, I agree with you that all Arabs need not align themselves with every so-called “Arab” cause (who gets to decide what an “Arab cause” is, anyway?). That would also mean that all Europeans would have one party line, all Americans would have to follow Dubya’s lead (yikes!). Generalized identity politics are always so reductive: as Chris Rock said, “be a human being!”
January 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
EgyPeter, oops! I also made the mistake of assuming that most Egyptians were Arab. I know many who consider themselves as such, but I shouldn’t have generalized in my post. Many apologies! And I agree with you that not all Arabs should be pressured to align with the “Arab causes.” Who gets to decide what an “Arab cause” is, anyway? Why should Europeans or Americans align with their country’s “causes” just because they are European or American? As Chris Rock said, “be a human being!”
January 28th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
sandmonkey,
the notion of arab unity is a sad joke. it never was. they all fucked each other up at every opportunity. the only thing that ever unified them was the hatred of israel (and now the west and US). the sheer fact that only israelis and americans agree with you and care what happens to egypt demonstrates this reality. your government should draw the conclusion and start acting rationally.
as to the suffering in gaza and about their purchases:
http://blog.camera.org/archives/2008/01/post_36.html
http://blog.camera.org/archives/2008/01/fertiliser_to_be_seen_but_not.html
January 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
another interesting bit on the “starvation” in gaza and how these lies disseminate:
http://sandbox.blog-city.com/gaza_buried_in_flour.htm
January 28th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Oh God
a7a fuck hamas ,, this Egyptian soldier can be my brother or yours
so kossom every one said Viva Intefada
coz there is no intifada there is terror for us to open our borders
January 28th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
somebody in yesterday’s thread said that even the dense Olmert govt will understand that this is an opportunity to disconnect from gaza and responsibility for it. I disagreed, saying that the israeli elite is so incompetent that it won’t.
Now consider these. Do you detect anything?
http://article.wn.com/view/2008/01/28/Egyptians_Hamas_rebuilding_Gaza_fence/
http://article.wn.com/view/2008/01/28/Israel_to_lift_aid_embargo_on_Gaza/
January 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
i was wondering how long would it take hamas to figure out — or be convinced by their arab “brothers” that it is much more advantageous for them to be under the Israeli “siege” where they get most of the basic needs and the sympathy of the whole world, than to create difficulties for their arab brothers. after all they have the tunnels thru the egypt border too anyway.
once they made their point — that the egyptian govt is a pussy and can be stepped over — they are going back to the siege to continue to fool the gullible world.
and you know what: it’ll work too.
January 28th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
When a problem isn’t handled, it only gets worse. Having a Hamas state wasn’t just going to hurt Israel, it was obviously going to hurt Egypt sooner or later. At some point Egypt will have to get the press out of there, secure the area and crack down or get overrun
Some in the Israeli government are way too eager to wash their hands of the problem at Egypt’s expense and Gaza has turned into a ticking time bomb, with Al Queda already there. Give it another few years and the place will be hell on earth for every nearby country. It’s already an MB base, just wait till it gets worse
January 28th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
basically it’s human nature to perpetuate a set of behaviors
the palestinians have learned a specific set of behaviors and there’s no reason for them not to keep using them against egypt too
January 28th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I’m a dog lover, so I wouldn’t shed a tear if the killer of these dogs wasn’t executed in a painful method, perhaps sodomized to death by a horse or something along those lines. The Palestinians don’t seem to understand that the world grows weary of their bullshit.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
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January 28th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Heh. Here’s something I did not expect to see.
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP182908
January 28th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
@ 42
And all it took just one measly wall breach in wrong direction.
Go, Hamas, go!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
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January 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
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re: the media..
get ready for Pallywood the sequel..
==
January 28th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
No worries ‘Spanish Dancer.’
Sadly, most Egyptians themselves, think they’re “Arab.” And apparently it was Gamal Abdel Nasser who decided who and what Arabs were. And the two factors that unites Arabs are that they speak Arabic and hate Israel. It’s that simple…that makes you an “Arab.” And so unfortunately, most Egyptians think they’re Arab…
This entire notion of Pan-Arabism that has devastated the middle east didn’t exist prior to Abdel Nasser.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Hey guys, it’s me again. First of all, the reason I want to change my name to “DirtyArab” is because I’m sick of “SandMonkey,” which is an adaptation of a racial epithet directed to my community of Arabs (come on silly fools, of course Egyptians are Arabs, read a book will ya!). I think Arabs are sand niggers (i.e, sand monkeys). I really do. Please love me American right, I’ve spewed so many crazy conspiracy theories for you guys (like the one about how this was a pre-meditated “invasion” of Egypt among the bloggers of the world who in unison used the phrase “People Power” - that’s a fucken CRAAAAZY conspiracy theory, I thought you’d love me for it). I also curse like a 10-year old brain dead child, doesn’t that make me cool?
(P.S., for those of you who don’t get it, this is not the author of the website, I am paradying him to illustrate the stupidity of his posts)
January 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
as an egyptian this really, really, really bothers me. The moment that Hamas starts to fuck with egypt is the moment they get their one way ticket back to gaza, we can’t let Egypt become another Lebanon.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
on a related note, regardless of what they consider themselves, Egyptians may be arab by ethinicity, but they’re coptic by blood.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I don’t suppose that there can be any doubt now that Hamas, realizing treaty limitations permit only a small number of lightly-armed Egyptian troops in the area, are planning to conquer Sinai and make the peninsula another outpost of the Khomeini Empire.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Valerie @42,
This surely is a Flying Pig moment!
I do feel badly for the Egyptians who are being adversely affected by all of this tho’.
I wonder if AFP will produce some fake war crimes by Egyptian troops to broadcast to the world. Somehow, I doubt it.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
“P.S., for those of you who don’t get it, this is not the author of the website, I am paradying him to illustrate the stupidity of his posts”
No. I could have sworn it was him. Maybe you should consider writing for the daily show or something. You are really funny. What is your background? (european, arab etc…)
(PS, in case you couldn’t tell I wasn’t being serious. You are not funny and your comments were garbage. Maybe you should take a few minutes and read your comments again. Then think about how you have wasted everyones time and try not to do it again.)
January 28th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Egyptians are Egyptians NOT Arab. The fact that we speak arabic doesn’t make us arab anymore than say Angolans are portuguese because they speak the potruguese language.
Touchy point people! Get it right!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Valerie @42
Thanks for the link. Interesting read. Now, if only the head of Hamas will sit down, read it, and start to get the message….
Gila
January 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I think there are many people around the world who wish an escalation of the conflict between Ghaza and Egypt (as you can see from the names sharing their comments here..) Hamas is pushed encouraged and assisted by Israel to rush by force into Egypt… Of course there are many wise people inside Ghaza ..who should STOP Hamas and their militants from provocating the situation on the borders..according to international law and behave in a wise senceble way . And if they are in need of any commodities like food or whatever they need… this can be arranged as a trade treaty carried out by responsible representatives ,and can be transported to Ghaza in an easy smooth way.
Hamas should be responsible and think for the risk they initiate which is not in the interest of Palestine nor Islam, Egypt or Arabs.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
anna,
What! Mrs. Bell’s Spanish class didn’t make me a sexy Spanish bull fighter? I demand a refund! Now I’m stuck being a Brit. Wait, that’s not quite right, either.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
ET,
I don’t think HAMAS has generally acted in the interest of the Palestinian people, so why should they start now?
January 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
lol@bj, get off the jack daniels.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
The gazans are infested with islamorabies. There is no cure for islamorabies.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Hmmm. I must admit to a bit of schadenfreude here. The Egyptians back Hamas, a terrorist organization devoted to perpetual jihad via suicide bombing and other forms of mass murder, to rule a state on its border. What could go wrong?
Had you not told me they were Egyptian, I might have thought those soldiers were Israelis battling Hamas. And who knows, with a little photoshopping, change the colors of the uniforms, Reuters or BBC might pass them off as photographic evidence of the Israeli Defense Force perpetrating another Jenin-like massacre sometime in the future.
I’m wondering if this whole problem couldn’t be resolved if the Arab neighbors and patrons of Hamas smuggled food & medicine into Gaza instead of weapons.
With regards to the False Sand Monkey posting on this thread, I’ve never really like the “Sandmonkey” moniker. I understand the Lenny Bruce approach of rendering this particular ethnic slur meaningless by preempting its use and desensitizing people to it, taking the bang out of it. But the kind of people who indulge in ethnic slurs are not the kind of people you need respect nor worry about. Still, that little monkey in the fez is kinda funny.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Egytians are arabs.
Okay, so not all egyptians. I guess you have a shit load of different african ethniticis. But it does apear as though the leading identity in politics, demographics and culture is the arab identity.
Fine, so not all israelis are jewish. But there are enough jewish israelis for using the national term as corresponding with the etnical.
And that’s why, when ever that egyptian Indiana Jones guy raves about how his ancestors built the pyramids, I think to myself “no, they didn’t. your ancestors were too busy messing around in the saudi desert back then”
January 28th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I would like to know why the hell ANYONE would go and try to seal a border unarmed knowing good & well there are a bunch of crazed lunatics on the other side of that border with guns. I wouldn’t go there without being armed to the teeth!
January 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
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another angle..
what if this was just a practice run??
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January 28th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Honestly…I doubt Egypt has much to worry about…
Here is my prediction:
The Gazans will do their damage…Egypt and some other Arabs will give them money..they will go home…they will foucs again on terrorizing Israel who will be pressured to back off and then the majority of the Muslim world will say “tisk-tisk” the whole thing was Israel’s fault, with USA backing…and this was merely a brief family spat.
The Palestinians will quickly convince one and all that they were fully the victims…that Israeli oppression made them throw rocks and shoot dogs and attack Egyptians…and most of the Muslim world…INCLUDING EGYPT will shed a tear and agree.
Then we can get back to hating and blaming Isarel for all ME woes and excuse and justify another Palestinian fuck up.
Anybody want to be me a big plate of humus and some good achwah?
January 28th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
In other words…I betting status quo within about 2-6 weeks. And let the kassams fly.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:42 am
attaboy, howies. exactly right.
in fact i posted evidence of that starting to happen a bit earlier.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Since when were the Egyptian riot police so…gentle? Oh, it’s Egyptian-on-Egyptian action that gets them off. I see now.
January 29th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Melissa, you’re retarded killing a dog isn’t equivalent to killing a human..my god…
And to all the Israelis shocked that the Egyptian police can’t keep things under control…your soldiers didn’t have much luck either, and our soldiers are put at a disadvantage because they actually have some sense of morality and human decency and a government that abides by international law, an obstacle IDF soldiers aren’t familiar with.
Furthermore, the reason we have UNARMED BORDER GUARDS guarding our borders with two fucked up, aggressive, violent terrorist states on the Sinai is because of ou
January 29th, 2008 at 1:15 am
our treaty with ISRAEL that prevents us from putting sufficient numbers of armed forces in Sinai to keep control of the border…we’re limit to 750 soldiers in ALL OF THE SINAI, where they have to deal with patrolling borders, stopping smuggling, protecting millions of tourists, stopping terrorists, policing hundreds of thousands of disloyal Bedouin, and preventing human/drug trafficking…yeah, makes a lot of fucking sense, doesn’t it?
by the way, the palestinian flag over an egyptian tower is creepy…i really do think they’re planning an all out invasion, which is why i think egyptian guardsare right to scale up the level of force…though I do wish the impoverished Egyptians in Rafah and El ARish could have more time to rip off Palestinians who are actually better off than them, as pathetic as it sounds. Once we get the border back up we should just give up on it. We only have to prevent them from coming into Egypt, and that’s it…we shouldn’t even be patrolling the tunnels…thats for Israel to deal with.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Patrick,
I have to assume that you know what Egypt did the last time it had more than 750 soldiers in the Sinai. And I also have to assume you know what Egypt got in exchange for agreeing to limit its troop presence in the Sinai to 750, namely the Sinai.
And let’s see how humanitarian the Egyptian army is once the Palestinians start blowing up school buses full of Egyptian children and shooting at Egyptian civilian vehicles.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:19 am
I don’t know about this who threw rocks first business. I can’t understand why Egyptian soliders would have to resort to throwing rocks in the first place - they are soldiers aren’t they - Rock Throwing 101?….. when everyone knows the Palestinians have the market on throwing rocks……well, and the Irish.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:33 am
bj,
I have been playing jumble words lately and was wondering if you want to play since you are obviously on call
INCUVA
NEWECH
ALLOC
DURGET
COMTIA
NAITOR
anna or anyone else wanna play be my guest.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Bad Palestinians! Just take back those new bikes they bought.
Before you shoot the invaders use those water tanks on the reporters. You don’t want more stories/pictures of “poor Hamas” being shot at. We can recycle the old ones, use Photoshop like everyone does this days and have new articles before anyone can sneeze twice. Let those whiny bastards suck on lead. I’m sorry, I meant those “human beings” who once in a while are forced by unfair circumstances and the vagaries of life to push people off buildings. Chew on a bullet go to paradise and leave us alone.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:42 am
Gila @ 49,
No dice. It was said in English.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:12 am
@Melissa in NorCal Says
What a “human” you are! You are no different from those dogs killers in the mind you have!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Two, thanks a lot but I’m more of a paper, scissors person. Two, what do you think of all this? are you happy about this? pallies injuring our literally defenseless soldiers? Just the talk of pallies with explosives roaming around Egypt is gonna bring tourism to a halt, even if they never do anything. Country doesn’t need this, inflation is sky high and employment already at a record low….
January 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
anna,
yeah yeah the Palestinians are the cause of all Egypt misery
January 29th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
we obviously disagree….I am an Egyptian nationalist and I believe that the interests, welfare and security of Egyptians should be put over and above any other country’s interests.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Twosret,
I never had any Jumble (TM) aptitude. I got WHENCE and LOCAL before giving up in frustration.
anna,
I hadn’t spent a whole lotta time considering your differences with Twosret. But I wonder, given your stated view of your own position, if you have an easier time than my buddy Two accepting that (crazies excepted, of course), your garden-variety, non-hating Zionist is just you, but born to different parents.
Aha! ATOMIC…RATION
January 29th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Bj and Anna,
The current events are happening at such a bad time for me. I’m swamped and writing a line here and there. I also think the gap between my thoughts and SM is huge this time so it is kind of laughable for me how biased he is this time.
I’m doing Jumble words everyday to keep my brain sane and it relaxes me after a long day of work.
I will be back hopefully with a long post.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
anna,
We might not be that different as you think we are it is just the matter of how we look at the big picture. Sorry for short replies.
Oh and don’t listen to bj too much he is a sweet poison
like the drugs he gives women 
January 30th, 2008 at 3:02 am
It’s true. I give drugs to women, and they love me. o:-)
January 30th, 2008 at 9:16 am
we obviously disagree….I am an Egyptian nationalist and I believe that the interests, welfare and security of Egyptians should be put over and above any other country’s interests.
Anna, I have to point out that you weren’t all that approving of me arguing the exact same thing for Israel when it comes to the Palestinians, a few posts ago.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:00 am
oh god what can i’say they ‘ve lived with jewish for 60 years so they r jewish really now dont’u agree with me?
January 30th, 2008 at 11:20 am
two, lol ease up on BJ two, he’s pleasant to all the peoples and a bit of a whiz at jumble words too it seems but BJ that was uber creepy comment at no. 82, don’t make me have to unjumble this no: 191. two, I only got one word in your jumble game, i suck quite badly at jumble words…. i hope you get time to comment more but if you do think the way I do, then I see no problem why your loyalties should not lie with your own people. roman, and as I said before, we didn’t kick out the Palestinians from their homes. You’ve detailed how the two countries are vastly different, don’t forget that applies to history and responsibilities too.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
anna,
BJ is one of those you meet at the weekest monoments in your life when you have no choice but take off your gown and let go, and all what he can think of this heartless man is his kosher pizza for lunch LOL
January 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
This one is really easy I promise
verpo
lydam
entelg
rehawl
January 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
especially for you two,- I hope it rekindles some national pride!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6DIbQhFrGM
it’s bilingual so sing up everyone
January 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Thanks anna
This one makes me cry everytime I hear it. Too bad the story board makes it look like a love song but I like the movie too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB_oDIy7tCM
January 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
#86 !Twos!!! : 0
I’m liking you more and more!! ; )
January 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
intro’s great with the orchestra, nice song but you’ve totally lost me here. this song makes you cry? you know what the guy says at the start right? wa ba7ebek 7ata lama tala3i 3eni! that so should not be at the start of any love song two. And, it IS a love song, coz he says something like lama teb3edi 3ani which doesn’t make sense about a place even if you use personification. It might not be eros per se but I’m not getting how this can be nationalistic. Maybe it’s in the movie which I haven’t watched.
stuff politics, here’s the lovely Sherihan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WOkc7VtdO8
January 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
oops, correction “it might not be eros but i’ not getting….. “
January 30th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
anna,
yeah if you watch the movie you will understand the song.
You can watch it on the internet on soot we soora.com but if you are in Egypt you should be able to get a clean copy from your local video store.
tedders,
Poor anna she must think I’m a slut with my 86 comment LOL
January 30th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Poor dogs!!! Fucking people!
January 30th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
dcat, I agree, what kind of coward shoots a dog? I hope he receives the same treatment as he dished out.
January 30th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Twos, I know you’re not what you wrote to anna, that doesn’t mean I didn’t like the story though!!
January 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Long live the dogs! let the Palestinians rott from poverty,lack of power, gas and supplies to hospitals.
January 31st, 2008 at 12:04 am
anna,
I’m trying to figure out my uber creepy comment that you refer to as #82, but I think maybe it is now #74. I’m confused. Did the numbering change?
My point (I don’t think a creepy one) is that I wonder if you can accept that Jewish Nationalists are the same as Egyptian Nationalists, except that they were born as Jews rather than as Egyptians.
And, BTW, thank you for the kind words.
Also, BTW, are you the same person as Anna? Or are you different people? An evil twin, perhaps?
January 31st, 2008 at 1:50 am
bj,
I will only believe you if you apply it to the Palestinian nationalists too
The numbers on the post are changing. Look at tedders comment.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:52 am
engy,
Not really if I follow your logic then the Jews are more Palestinians than the Palestinians are Jews.
January 31st, 2008 at 2:38 am
the argument isn’t that jewish nationalists are different than Egytpian nationalists, its that the jewish nationalists don’t have a rightful claim to the land over which they place such strong feelings.
January 31st, 2008 at 2:38 am