From the mouth of an ex state-secuirty general

"Oh, the way we treated the State Secuirty soldiers was so horrible it bordered on funny. We would keep them crammed inside those cars in the sun for hours, and then when we take them out, we start humiliating them. We would slap them, beat them, spit on them, kick them. We would pick them off randomly and beat them with our belts. And then we would start making them fight each other. We would tell them that this or that soldier insulted them or their governorate or something, so they would fight him and people from his governrate. We would make sure they hated each other, so that they would never unite against us again. We fill them up with hate and rage, and we would work them up until they can't take it anymore, and then we release them on the people at protests. This is why when they beat the people there they really beat them hard. It's the only outlet we provide them for their aggression and hate. Sure, it's sick and demented, but they were orders from up top, from the Minister of Interior himself. And don't kid yourself, they all demand that we become worse than their predecessor. Every one of those guys suddenly finds himself in charge of the security of the state, and the state is huge, so if he can't break their spirits, scare them shitless, anything could happen, and then he could be disgraced and out of job. Same goes for us, and the population we work with doesn't help. You learn quickly that Respect won't work with them, because they have been wronged for so long that if you try to remedy it they will get this sense of entitlement about it and demand even more. And sooner than later, they will get riled up and things will get out of line. No, my boy, fear is good. Fear is what keeps our people in line and saves this country from tearing itself apart. We do terrible things, because the alternative is much much worse. Nothing can change that."

An ex State-Security General friend of my father, yesterday! 

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  1. khaled
    May 28, 2008 at 9:57 am

    WOW.

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  2. ?
    May 28, 2008 at 10:41 am

    You mean Central Security Forces and not State Security. Get a focus or get a life.

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  3. The Sandmonkey
    May 28, 2008 at 11:22 am

    To ?,

    Dude, in demonstrations, CS soldiers are SS soldiers and they follow SS directives. I would also like to point out that fuck you!

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  4. Solomon2
    May 28, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    It is a description of institutionalized tyranny lording over a restive population. Let there be no excuses from this point on: the policy of the Egyptian government is one of deliberate cruelty and conscious injustice, driving the population to despair and thus ensuring the government’s continued rule.

    If the populace had a hope that the chains could come off somehow they would obviously rebel. Egypt has become a huge powder keg ready to explode.

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  5. PeeWeHurtem
    May 28, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Another typical scenario of DIVIDE & CONQUER

    And no matter who is elected as the head of Egypt, free elections or not, Gamal Mubarak or not, Mossad or not, Barack Hussein Obama or not, Mcain or not. It will not change in the foreseeable future.

    Case closed!

    Whats up with you Sandmonkey, first time i ever caught you cus at a reader, is Egypt getting to you LOL, lighten up bro!

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  6. leo
    May 28, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Looks like Moscow handwriting (no fooling).

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  7. Jack
    May 28, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    It isn’t Israel that is causing your problems, is it?

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  8. MaGdee
    May 28, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Sam,

    They are still called CS soldiers even when they follow SS directives! And the same psychological techniques are used whether they are deployed by SS to break demos or deployed by Police in stadiums during a football game… have you ever seen them breaking a football riot. Of course in demos they are more psyched up for the beatings!
    Back in the 80′s when an Interior Minister by the name of Ahmed Roushdi was in office, he was kinda of good man by today standards, he abolished most of these torturing techniques… but then came the infamous CS riot because of the “service time extension rumor” and it ended up with numerous of CS’s, civilian and tourist deaths, hotels burned and public utilities sabotaged! So the Minster was removed and Mubarak replaced him with several Ministers, whom he thought were capable of handling CS type of soldiers by putting fear in them! sick!

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  9. Rick
    May 28, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    The current balance of power in egypt isn’t going to stay long, the question is what’s going to happen following the fall of the government? will we be able to unite under a strong leader or ideal, or will we let our differences (religious and economic) tear us apart as in Iraq and Lebanon? I personally think that a secular, nationalist movement is the only way to go.

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  10. Mansour
    May 29, 2008 at 12:18 am

    How do you think the old man survived for the past 28 years? That’s how police states are run, but it’s also partly penis envy. People like your father’s friend like to adopt the persona of the “hard-ass, macho cop”, but in reality they are compensating for their very small penises.

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  11. Patrick
    May 29, 2008 at 5:02 am

    Do you really expect us to believe that somehow you were able to correctly transcribe such a long alleged quote from this guy? People don’t speak in monologues in casual conversation. Lines like “fear is good” are pretty unoriginal.

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  12. PeeWeHurtem
    May 29, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Egypt has picked up a ;ead or two on Masonic ideology and taken a throat culture and cultivated it domestically.

    This is “divide and conquer,” “good cop, bad cop” to the nuts!

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  13. Sindy
    May 29, 2008 at 11:50 am

    SPITTTTTTTTTTTTTT ON HIM AND ON THE MINISTER

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  14. Mohamed
    June 1, 2008 at 3:02 am

    Patrick’s right,
    Did you tell him “please ya uncle wait till I get a recorder then speak loud and clear?”
    The story this guy is telling is too evil and lack any kind of common sense to be true, and too straightforward evil for anyone to brag about unless 3adel Adham is his role model, it’s like saying “I rape my daughter every night before dinner just to protect her from having premarital sex, believe me it works”, did this general finish his story with a big loud laugh, just to perfect his evilness?

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  15. Some 'merican
    June 4, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    “… they will get this sense of entitlement about it and demand even more.”

    Yeah if that happens, then you too will get to scoff at the idea of ‘reparations’ first hand, see the benefits of ‘affirmative action’, the ever popular ‘welfare family’ and other Western Culture high points.

    Okay, I’ll remove my tongue from my cheek (sarcasm) now. I think it’s amazing how similar that sounds to the drivel that supremicist redneck idjits spew out here & there in the states though… Take care there.

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