Why Obama will fail!

First of all, before we get into this, let me say how happy I am with the selection of both Obama and McCain as the presumptive nominees of the republican and the democratic parties, and that's not just because I Predicted they would be it when Clinton was the lock-in nominee and McCain was lagging behind all of his compatriots. I am happy because both men are not the conventional nominees of their parties, and they are more interested in creating common ground with the other side's voter bloc than they are in pandering to their base. Ok, now that we got that out of the way, let's actually examine them a little bit.

In my house , right now, I have the electoral programs for both Obama and McCain, and reading them has provided me with hours of constant amusement. McCain's program is under the impression that the world is great and everything is fine and dandy, and all we really have to do is to bomb a couple more areas in the world (a bomb here, a couple there) and all will be well with the world again. I personally love it, but that's because I am Pro-Death and would welcome anything that would bring the world's population down a notch, but I doubt the rest of you exactly share my sentiment, so, ehh, yeah, bad electoral program, bad! Obama's on the other hand, well, it kinda reads like someone's sophomore year college term paper on "the joys of socialism". It's nice, it's sweet, it's humane, it's unrealistic bullshit. Oh, and if you would like to challenge that world view, please inform me how this man intends to both balance the budget ( with its huge deficit) and implement Universal Healthcare (which any idiot would tell you wouldn't exactly be..ehh..cheap). Or, if you are suffering from the shitty deal you got from your healthcare provider and you don't care how this gets financed, explain to me again how he will "convince" the Businesses that left the US for China or India to come back to the US, where they will have to pay both higher taxes AND labor costs, plus whatever new taxes he intends to raise to finance your healthcare. Ok, now back to McCain for a second.

Now, a lot of people will think this is a post to make McCain look good on the expense of Obama, but unfortunately, I am going to have to disappoint those idiots this time as well. McCain, whom I love and respect and adore and [add verbs that signify liking someone, ad infinitum] is not going to win. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. He is not going to win because the Party really isn't backing him- if they did they might have advised him to get something resembling an economic plan. Nope, the republicans are doing the same thing the democrats did in 2004 on for, just putting on a good show. Nothing is in the favor of this man: the base hates him cause he is secular, his views on the war are incredibly unpopular with middle- America right now, he has a wife whose history- once put out on display in the general election- will make Michelle Obama look like the Saint she ain't (For those of you who don't know, Cindy kinda started an Charity Organization to provide drugs for African children, and then was caught stealing from those drugs for her personal use), and last, but not least, the age thing. Not to mention, with absolute democratic majorities in both the house and senate, he would be a lame-duck President from day one, and nothing would ever get done. I like McCain, and would've rather seen him win in 2000 than Bush, but he is not going to win this one either. So now, we have to prepare ourselves to the future monumental failure of the Obama Presidency, no? Oh wait, you don't agree, do you? Well, that's what the post title was all about. Ok, fine, I guess I am going to have to go into detail to why exactly I believe that Obama will fail.

You see, if you ask any Obama supporter, they will tell you that they are supporting the man because he gives them hope. Now, Oscar Wilde once said that the basis of all hope is fear, and I intend to agree with Wilde on that one. So what exactly are the Obama supporters afraid of? Well, it's really simple, after 8 years of Bush, and of having the government repeatedly inform them that they are living in a threatening world that doesn't like them (which, by the way, is true, and it disliked them during Clinton's presidency too I may add) and that they are going to have to hunker down, get though and prepare to fight this for the long haul, they are afraid that this is really the way the world is. Enter Obama, who tells them in all kinds of inspiring fashion that this isn't necessarily true, that the world isn't really dangerous and that all we need to do is to talk to one another, and then all will be well in the world and we will all sing Kumbaya together. So, desperate and clinging to anything, they believe him, because the alternative is so scary, so stressful and depressing, that they may have to up their Zoloft dosage , and anti-depressants are really expensive nowadays.

Not to mention, Americans really want the world to like them, which is a silly desire shared by no other nation on earth. You don't see the Russians worrying about the world liking them, or the Chinese. Ok, you want a democracy? How about the French? Do you see the French worrying about whether or not the world likes them? Do you know of any other nation in the world who actually has this stupid girl-with-low-self-esteem-in- junior-high fixation? Hell, even the Israelis, arguably the current most hated country in the world (and who would like a nation of militaristic Jews who refuse to be wiped out? Those Damn Jooz!), are not as fixated on getting the world to like them the way the Americans do, because most of them have resigned themselves that the world really never will like them. So yeah, the Americans stand alone when it comes to that silly desire, and they have constructed a notion why the world dislikes them: It's because the world thinks that they are a racist nation that is also prejudiced against Islam. So, in order to remedy that, they vote and nominate a Black man with an arab middle-name who comes from a Muslim Background, as if saying, "Here! This is how far we all willing to go. Do you like us now?"

And the world will answer: Ehh, no, not really!

There are those who will argue with this, citing great support for Obama all over Europe and the world. True, but that's because he is the Anti-Bush, an articulate black man who says he doesn't want war. The world would love fuckin Gary Coleman if he was the person who said this after 8 years of Bush. Plus, the world is excited for the Obama presidency because they view it as some sort of novelty, the black man who became President after all of the country's history of slavery. Americans forget that thanks to their endless stream of movies and TV shows that have addressed the history and extent of racism in the US, we all know the backstory and the struggles and Rosa Parks and Malcom X and MLK and all of this fun stuff. So, really, it's like watching a 250 year old movie where one character keeps getting screwed over and finally, through a lot of fighting, becomes President. Oh Happy Ending. We love Happy endings. What we didn't wrap our head around yet is that this isn't a movie. There is no Fade to Black after Obama takes office. He actually becomes the President and executer of policies. He will become a symbol of the country people love to hate, and this won't exactly end because he is a smooth talking good looking black guy. It's a ncie fantasy, but let's get real here. There are too many people who have vested interest in hating the US and always will hate it, no matter who the fuck runs it. Now let's examine this notion a little.

Unarguably , Obama's number one foreign policy objective is to get things right with the arab and muslim world. And that's when you are going to watch the best circus in the world, because no a single leader, in the arab or the muslim world, really wants to get right with the US. Hell, our rulers have justified their entire existence in power by positioning themselves as opposed to America . They continue , in their state-sponsored media, to point fingers at the US and go " See, those bloodthirsty Americans. They will kill you all, rape all of your women and drink the blood of your babies, if we are not here to protect you. So eat shit and shut up!", and If you think I am exaggerating please check Egypt, Syria, Iran, Yemen, etc.. etc.. Those people have built their entire rule on that whole notion, you think they are going to give that up because the silly Americans voted for a 40-something inexperienced Black dude? Get real! And in terms of the arab and muslim street, let's not forget that their number one issue has always been Israel. Now, do you think Obama will go against Israel, after watching him kissing for hours AIPAC ass? Ha. So yeah, that will be a disappointment also. Not to mention that Obama won't withdraw from Iraq. He won't. He can't. At best he will do a partial withdrawal, while leaving a good chunk of US soldiers there. But bring all the troops home? Not gonna happen. And that's what the arab and muslim street wants, no? Let's not even contemplate the notion for a second that he is serious about going after Pakistan, like he said over and over again. Yeah, the Obama foreign policy will be- in the words of the great Borat- GREAT SUCCESS! I am sure.

Oh, and I am sure that once he gets elected that the Islamists will warm up to him immediately. You know, because there is nothing that Islamists like more than a former born- muslim who chose, by his own accord, to become a Christian and an active one at that. Yeah, I am sure they will be very impressed, and quit fighting the US immediately. After all, he said that he intends to deliver a speech from a muslim nation in his first 100 days of office. Yeah, that kind of pandering really calms islamists down, especially coming from apostates. And they will surely respect him if he withdraws partially from Iraq, and not mistake it as a sign of weakness or that they are winning or anything. And since we are on the topic, can you imagine what will happen if a terrorist attack took place during the Obama Presidency, after he does all of this? Can you imagine how America will feel, when they realize that even after they voted for the Blackman with Arab middle name and Muslim background who gave a speech during his first 100 days in a muslim nation, that the world still hates them and that Islamists still want to kill them? Talk about a rude awakening. And can you imagine if they do demand a response from Obama, and Obama decides to take off the Dove hat and put the Hawk one on? Do I have to remind you how things went the last time a Dove tried to be a Hawk? Olmert and Peretz (who both, may I remind you , ran on the platform of withdrawing from the Westbank) during the Lebanon war, anyone? Ok, how about Carter and the rescue mission in Iran? How about Clinton in Somalia? We getting the picture? Should be a fantastic fun time for everyone involved.

But let's say you are the kind of American who doesn't care about all that, like this silly American chic I met here a week ago, who told me that "the basis of hope is hope" and "I really don't care if your people like us, I just want to be proud of my country again!". Ok, fair enough. So one would assume you are supporting Obama for domestic policy reasons. That you believe that he will clean Washington from the Special Interests and the lobbying and all that Jazz he has been talking about, and implements his "Socialism is fun" electoral program, aided surely, by the fact that the House and the Senate looks like it will tilt in favor of the democrats again this year, finally giving them full majority in both the house and Senate. I am sure he will be able to cut out the special interests and implement his policies in a Jiffy, right? Ehh, nope. Because even if he is not beholden to special interests- which I am not sure is exactly true-every single politician in the House and the Senate is, and they kinda like their seats. Not to mention, about half of the democrats who won in 2006 were Pro-War, Pro-Guns, Anti-Abortion democrats- i.e. confused republicans- who will undoubtedly, given how they are now fully in power, start fighting amongst themselves in earnest, the way the democrats always do. And if you don't believe me, check 1992, the first Clinton Presidential term. It's the Same shit. Charismatic unlikely democrat in the white house after 12 years of republican rule, bridled with unrealistic expectations of a starved political base who somehow expected him to miraculously solve all of their problems in the first 100 days, and had the majorities in the House and the Senate to pull it off. But he didn't. He couldn't. The Democrats were too busy fighting amongst themselves, and he was too busy trying to be a centrist and work with an institution that wouldn't work and all the hopes, dreams and expectations evaporated by the end of his first year in office. But yeah, I am sure the Obama first term will be different, because, like, he is Black. Oh, and a Washington outsider. Yes, that's the kind of person who can get things done in Congress, no doubt! But I digress, when I think of Obama, I don't think of Clinton. At the end of the day, everyone knew that Clinton would play Ball and isn't exactly driven by his own ideological view and belief in his own goodness. Nahh, when I think Obama, one name really comes to mind: Carter!

Obama is the second coming of Carter, there is no doubt about it. From the way he took over the party, to the election against an uncharismatic standard-bearer opponent in the elections, to his belief that America is bad, and it's all America's fault anyway, and that all that is necessary to make everything work is appeasement and humility, and oh, let's try to fix are suffering economy by implementing socialist ideas. So yeah, if you are reading this and you remember those days, then please brace yourself, because it's gonna suck again for the next four years. But don't fret, there is a bright side to this, because remember, after Carter came Reagan. And maybe that's what America needs right now. To experiment with Obama to see if there is any truth to his fiction. If there is, sweet, I am not gonna hate, but there likely isn't, and that will be the necessary wake-up call that half of the US have been needing for the past 4 years. That's what it's gonna take: a colossal presidential failure of the size of Carter (whose approval ratings, by the way, make Bush's look really high, believe it or not), to get the US back into thinking about how to deal with their problems, instead of pretending they don't exist.

That being said, I will feel bad for Obama when this eventually happens though, because unlike every other President before him, Obama isn't just running as himself, he is running as the Black Candidate, so when he fails, it's not just him that will be looked upon as a failure, but his race with him. The nice white people of America will congratulate themselves when he is elected for no longer being a racist nation (they did elect a black man after all) and when he fails they probably wouldn't run another Black candidate for President for another 30 years or so. Not to mention, after Obama, being a black candidate won't be a big deal anymore. The novelty would've worn off, and the candidates will be assessed based on their experience and their plans, instead of just being an inspiring notion whose time has come as a Black Man for President of the USA. I hope this wouldn't be the case, but, ehh, I doubt it!

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  1. Memryt
    July 7, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Nice predictions but please try and be more consistent and get your facts a little straighter so you don’t end up failing like you claim Obama will.

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  2. LouLou
    July 7, 2008 at 9:37 am

    The type of president America needs – in my humble opinion – is someone like George Bush Sr. When there was a threat that needed addressing, he had enough credibility to build a consensus that led to a lot of countries bearing the cost and burden of the first Gulf War with the US.

    When you alienate the whole world, you’re stuck on your own. Reality is – America is just not capable – economically or militarily – of sustaining an infinite number of long-term entanglements on its own. No one country is. Plus it is kind of unfair to yourself given that you are fighting against a universal threat.

    Those who tell Americans they don’t need the rest of the world lie to them. Just like those who tell them they can ever be universally liked do.

    The worst foreign politician ever is not someone who fails to get others to do what is in his interest, it is someone who fails to get others to do what is in THEIR own interests just to spite him. And that is where Reagan and Bush Senior succeeded while Dubya failed.

    The marching, death-to-america-chanting, flag-burners will always be around. And there will always be dictatorships that need to transfer their people’s rage outwards.

    America doesn’t need a leader who will win them a popularity contest. That’s not what geopolitics is about.

    No, Americans need leaders who can build and lead alliances and coalitions like during the Cold War and during the first Gulf War.

    They also need to get off fossil fuels.

    These 2 factors alone would boost the economy of the US, and through it the world economy.

    I don’t know if Obama or McCain can achieve this better. Haven’t followed closely enough.

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  3. Yogi
    July 7, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Isn’t obvious that the reason for Obama’s failure is/will be the previous policies and laws put into place by Bush and his band of evil Republicans?

    The beauty of the Obama Idea, like every other Leftist campaign, is that you get to blame everybody else for your failures.

    Life must be incredibly empty for these people who never learn from their experience. It must be like living in a nightmare that endlessly repeats .

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  4. Craig
    July 7, 2008 at 10:50 am

    But let’s say you are the kind of American who doesn’t care about all that, like this silly American chic I met here a week ago, who told me that “the basis of hope is hope” and “I really don’t care if your people like us, I just want to be proud of my country again!”.

    That’s it, right there. She wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is AMERICAN and have everyone swarm around her and tell her how great she is. For being AMERICAN. It isn’t about you. It isn’t about America. It’s about HER. And her ego.

    This whole “internationalist’ mind-fuck seems to have started during the Clinton Administration. And it seems to have only taken hold in people who weer impressionable teenagers during those years. They are America’s young adults, today. I was a young adult in the early 1980s when millions of Europeans came out to protest Ronald Reagan and the “arms race” every few days, seemed like, and it was all over the news. I don’t recall anyone ever whining about how much the rest of the world hated us, back then. Or anyone talking about how much US “prestige” had fallen. And I have a pretty good memory!

    Good post, sm. I bet you turn out to be right, more or less.

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  5. Craig
    July 7, 2008 at 10:51 am

    PS-Hi LouLou! :)

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  6. LouLou
    July 7, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Hi Craig,

    the only people in the world who are even less popular than Americans are Muslims. And I get impatient with other Muslims when they whine about Islamophobia. Not because I think it’s a good thing.

    Because I think it’s the least of our problems, really. Sure, it’s upsetting. I started following the American elections online a bit during the primaries then things got to the point where people were calling Obama a Muslim like it was a dirty word. And at that point, I stopped following.

    The fact is very often, when you have problems with others, you have two options:

    1 – Completely ignore it and continue doing what you’re doing – which doesn’t work because like it or not, we live in one planet and the world is interdependent in too many ways to count.

    2 – Recognize that you really do have problems and take charge and try to fix them. The image issue then becomes secondary because you accept that you will look better when you ARE better.

    3 – Feel like a victim, whine and hate everyone else back – which has the same cons as number one except worse.

    The way I see it now, Muslims are going for no.3 and Americans are going for no.1.

    I’m not saying that Americans have as many problems as we do. For one thing, you guys are a country. You can have a united vision, a national debate about your issues and you can agree on a leadership to implement whatever the national debate decides is best. And when something doesn’t work, you can try something else. You can function as a unit.

    What I am saying is that it’s sad to see Americans developing the same us-against-the-world mentality that prevails among Muslims. You are the most powerful, most successful nation in history. You can do better than that.

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  7. Marcos
    July 7, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Need to work on your facts. Obama wasn’t born into a Muslim background; he was raised in a secular household. His father had been raised Muslim, but was a “confirmed atheist” by the time he met Obama’s mother. Barack became involved in Christianity because he saw the importance of the church in the Black American community; I suspect he’s not really a believer there either.

    And Carter’s approval rating never got as low as Bush Jr’s while he was in office; even at the end of his term it was at 34%, which W. has dropped below during his tenure. The man to beat in this category is Nixon, whose rating was at 24% when he resigned.

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  8. easton ellis
    July 7, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Marcos, in the view of muslims, it doesn;t matter if the father was an athiest when he me Obama’s mother, he was still muslim. It’s like when you have athiest jews. similar concept. So, as far as muslim are concerned, he was muslim when Obama was born, which makes Obama a muslim as well. He was raised in a secular hosuehold and converted to christianity, for whatever reason, but in muslim eyes he is an apostate, because he chose christianity over Islam!

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  9. JT
    July 7, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Enter Obama, who tells them in all kinds of inspiring fashion that this isn’t necessarily true, that the world isn’t really dangerous and that all we need to do is to talk to another, and then all will be well in the world and we will all sing Kumbaya together. So, desperate and clinging to anything, they believe him, because the alternative is so scary, so stressful and depressing, that they may have to up their Zoloft dosage , and anti-depressants are really expensive nowadays.

    Not to mention, Americans really want the world to like them, which is a silly desire shared by no other nation on earth.

    I agree with this. This is one of many reasons why I am not an Obama supporter. The world will hate us before Bush became President, and they will hate us long after Bush leaves office. Liberals know this but they don’t want to accept it. I prefer to live in reality. Even after all the great things America has done for the world, we are still hated. After all the countries we helped liberate from the oppression of tyranny, we are the bad guys. So be it. And, yet, so many of those people want to come here.

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  10. EgyPeter
    July 7, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Nice post and I agree with Craig – I bet your predictions are right.

    America needs to do what’s best for….AMERICA! The whole, “I want the world to love us again” argument drives me absolutely nuts. What’s good for America is good for the world. All you have to do is check History on that one. There has never been a nation like America in the history of mankind.

    Carter in Iran. Clinton in Somalia. Shit like that scares me. America can’t afford to have a wussy for a president during these times, the enemy is ready to pounce regardless of our president’s middle name. Democrats can be president in times of peace…but now would not be a good time.

    Maybe Jindal in ’12 can be America’s new Reagan as I agree that Obama will be the next Carter.

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  11. Left Wing Vs. Right Wing
    July 7, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    As you said before Sandmonkey, as did you favorite dead comedian. This country was bought and paid for a long time ago by guess who? That’s righ, the guys who are so buddy buddy with Obama right now. Obama is needy and a perfect specimen for them to do all the dirty work. Although not a political whore as Bush is, but none the less he will do as they please.

    Secondly, you deleted comments that were here this morning. The one where someone said they specifically remember you saying that it would be Huckabee & Clinton. Not the way you claim. Hence Memryt’s comment which was actually comment no. 3, telling you to get your facts a little straighter.

    In the end you are a whore coz you really do care about your image even though you are supposedly anonymous and invisible.

    Plus werent you too young to remember Carter, seeing that you werent even born and all?

    Obama has never had a Muslim background since he has always been a God fearing Christian just like McCain.

    Please stop it already!

    Your blog is like a socio pathic zionist BDSM room where people come to lick your ass because they love BDSM Machostic morally subversive pain.

    NNight!

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  12. Don Cox
    July 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    “Even after all the great things America has done for the world, we are still hated.”

    Nobody likes to be under an obligation to somebody else.

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  13. Spanish Dancer
    July 7, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    She wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is AMERICAN and have everyone swarm around her and tell her how great she is. For being AMERICAN.

    Actually, it’s more likely that she wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is American and have everyone NOT swarm around her and tell her what a shitty, evil imperialist/terrorist/killer/apathetic/fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-insult she is. She probably is simply sick of having to answer questions about the motivations of a president she didn’t vote for, a war she never supported, and a history she can’t do anything about. Or maybe she is just effing sick of Europeans and Arabs, of all people, accusing her of living in the most violent, anti-peace country in the world. Or how the U.S. is somehow the biggest threat to “world peace,” as if this imaginary state of kum-ba-yah global harmony has EVER existed anywhere.

    Trust me, I’m no flag waver, but I really think that the assumption that this girl is all about her ego, while understandable, is rather in bad faith. As someone who has experienced this type of thing (no, not the “fair critique of policy,” but real, “yankee terrorist go home to your stupid, pathetic, so-called culture” anti-Americanism), I have to say I sympathize with the sentiment.

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  14. Craig
    July 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Actually, it’s more likely that she wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is American and have everyone NOT swarm around her and tell her what a shitty, evil imperialist/terrorist/killer/apathetic/fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-insult she is.

    If that is how she thinks things are happening, then why is she traveling at all? Is she a masochist? This is a BIG country. We have a lot of opportunity here. There’s absolutely no reason she has to ever leave it, unless she wants to. And if she really perceives the world as being such a hostile place, she wouldn’t. SD, I’m not buying your argument at all.

    As someone who has experienced this type of thing (no, not the “fair critique of policy,” but real, “yankee terrorist go home to your stupid, pathetic, so-called culture” anti-Americanism), I have to say I sympathize with the sentiment.

    I estimate I visited about 30 countries in the 1980s. The only place I ever experienced anything like that was in Hong Kong, while it was a British colony. And it was at the hands of the British, not the Chinese (who were very friendly). I recommend people do what I did. What until some of your Marine buddies show up and then beat the tar out of them. And then run before the police arrive. Does wonders for world peace and American “prestige” in the international community.

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  15. Craig
    July 7, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    LouLou, I like your summary. I think there are more options than that, though. One option I’d like to see put into effect (for the US) is the one we used to use… simply stop trying to pretend everyone on the planet is our friend, or SHOULD BE our friend. We have enemies. We even have “natural enemies” who will never have a positive attitude about the US, no matter what. We need to accept that. And we also need to recognize the importance of our relationships with those countries that we genuinely do have good relationships with. There are more in that category than most people think. And then we need to start working on some of the “neutral” countries, and there are more of THOSE than most people think as well. The press has painted a very bad picture for us, and American leftists who seem to enjoy talking about how everyone hates us, haven’t helped.

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  16. LouLou
    July 7, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    Craig,

    I won’t say anything more because I don’t want you to get your marine bodies to beat me up. I’m not built for that. :)

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  17. Howie
    July 7, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    McCain will win…and I think that for many reasons…

    Besides that…a nice piece of work SM

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  18. yochanan
    July 7, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    NO! bama

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  19. franchie
    July 7, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    “How about the French? Do you see the French worrying about whether or not the world likes them? ”

    actually we are very busy with our vacations, and or sport events such as soccer, tour de France, Olympic games… don’t forget the strikes, the surburbs riots, our muslims that always want more of our wellfare….

    so ya see, no time to consider if the other nations like us as “natural enemies” :lol:

    yet, we watch our borders : no integrism is allowed to disturb our idleness

    bye bye the Brits, that let escape the jihaders ; better they don’t come over : our anti-terrorist cops have a light hand !

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  20. MoogE
    July 7, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Nice article!
    Yet every time i read about the US elections i feel sad because Mike Huckabee didn’t make it. i don’t really care much for him but just imagine PRESIDENT HUKABEES!
    Also, when he turns out to be a failure, everybody would start saying the magic word! Fuck-a-bees!
    Vague movie reference, i know…

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  21. Stacy
    July 7, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Nice observations SM. I guess I must be one of those rare Americans who could care less what other people around the world think of us. In fact I really don’t know many people that do. Maybe that’s just the liberal media being Liberals. We are a great nation and also a nation with many problems. We have good and bad in our society. Don’t like it? KICK ROCKS!!!!

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  22. Madouc
    July 7, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Where oh where is our new Reagan?!!

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  23. I hate Zionist Theives
    July 7, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    I hate zionist murderers who have accomplished there final head lock on the world and have Nuclear weapons now while starting a war that will never end.

    You dumb fucks, never mind Iran, it was a very stupid mistake to give Jews the Bomb. Let’s just hope it is all a bluff and America and Europe are smarter than that.

    OBAMA or McCain wont change a God damn thing so fuck em all.

    Hoping that Obama will pull a 180 is retarded.

    Better chance of dyslexic McCain dropping a terd on hos own house by mistake.

    I hate Zionist theives.

    Some one send me to Israel already to bite a settlers throat out

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  24. bleh
    July 7, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    I am doing my part to make sure that Americans who care about what the rest of the world thinks have a hard time. They need to grow up and my anti-your-country sentiment will help them along. Don’t even try to be a canadian around me. Golden Rule for the win. I plan on treating western europeans and canadians like shit for the rest of my life.

    Sandmonkey, Obama won’t fail because he will have at least 25% of the country claiming he is the messiah during his presidency. Hope, change, mend world…

    kind of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJrovKgrTw

    It’s retarded, but when you step back everything is pretty retarded at this point.

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  25. Beth
    July 7, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    # Howie Says:
    July 7th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    McCain will win…and I think that for many reasons…

    Besides that…a nice piece of work SM.

    Ditto that. The only thing I don’t agree with in your post is, McCain will win. If not, everything else is spot-on. Excellent work, SM!

    # Madouc Says:
    July 7th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Where oh where is our new Reagan?!!

    Zombie Reagan is voting for John McCain, and wants him to win one for The Gipper. Just ask Nancy. (Remember, “the person who agrees with me 80% of the time is not my enemy.”)

    A final note: LOL at the Obamateur apologists, all pissed off because Sandmonkey is blaspheming the Obamessiah!!! HERETIC!!! LOL

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  26. I hate Zionist Theives
    July 7, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    DEAD PALISTINIANS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.

    STARVING PALISTINIANS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.

    YET YOU BASTARDS HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS WHILE AMERICA PILFERAGES OIL THAT IS NOT THERES AND CONTINUES TO COMMIT RAPE.

    WHEN FINALL YOU HAVE A DOVE LIKE OBAMA OR CARTER OR ANY AMERICAN WITH DECENCY YOU MASONIC IMBICILES TALK POLITICS.

    GO FUCK YOUR KIDS YOU WEAK HUMAN DEVIANTS.

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  27. tedders
    July 7, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    In the last three years we’ve traveled to Germany, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, Czech Republic, Canada, we’re in south Mexico as I type this. Never once has any one or group of people ever criticized us or our country. We did see an anti American demonstration in the Latin Quarter in Paris but it was sponsored by Hezzbollah and the demonstrators were a rag tag bunch who looked as if they all needed a good nights sleep a bath and a couple of good meals, not exactly typical Parisians. This America hating mantra that runs on the MSM news channels is a fairytale as far as I’m concerned. I’ve never seen it once in our travels and I wear USA hoodies and Dallas Cowboy caps (kinda hard to miss us!). Let Iran have their pay if you attend “down with the great satan rallies”, that won’t get them much in return for the effort. No doubt there are plenty of people and ideologies that love to hate Americans, America and her policies, many of them are living in America some are in congress or work for the New York Times. They are the vast vocal minority. the squeaky wheels that get broadcast on the “we have to shock you” news channels. That’s not going to change if Barry is elected.

    Granted we haven’t visited any Muslim countries, nor will we in the near future but the world does not hate America or Americans. Iraqi citizens have an overwhelming love for Americans, the ones that aren’t planting IEDS, there are fewer of them there every single day thanks to the coalition forces. Asia’s approval ratings of US policies are at a 5 year high, no doubt thanks to the turmoil in the area (China-Tibet, Indonesia, Taiwan, North Korea and more) while Western Europe is rapidly moving to see the US perspective as the way they view the world. Governments in Italy, Germany, France, Great Britain and others are voting in conservative governments, liberalism has lost it’s sheen in those countries. Eastern European (former Soviet satellites) are among our best and most devoted allies, they’ve seen first hand the horrors of what socialism and communism means, at the tip of a bayonet. Don’t believe the liberal spin that the world hates us, the part that do hate us aren’t exactly the kind of people or countries you’d like to be seen with in the light of day anyway. The ones who do support us know that we are steadfast and intent on helping the common man throw off the shackles of despots and tyrants. Hopefully electing Obama won’t change that either.

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  28. Beth
    July 8, 2008 at 12:01 am

    #29 – LMAO!!! Delusional much? HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

    BTW, Sandmonkey, I think you should give Cindy McCain a deeper look. There’s a lot more to her than that drug thing, she’s really a generous, caring person. She works with orgs about land mines, and gives piles of money to various causes, esp. Operation Smile (their youngest daughter, Bridget, was adopted by them when she brought Bridget to the US for cleft palate surgery). The vicodin (?) thing was awful, but it was a real aberration for her.
    I’m sure the Dems will no doubt wear out the story again, but I think most voters will see it for what it is.

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  29. Mike Nargiziain
    July 8, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Hey Sandman -
    I don’t buy the US is the ‘most’ racist country in the world nonsense… which is what it is.. it’s the best experiment against racism in the history of the planet likely…
    You went to school here do you really think at college that this is a racist country? The movies from the 50′s and prior about Jim Crow make most people’s (white people’s) skin crawl…
    You think there would EVVVVER be a bball or soccer game where thousands of white fans were screaming N—-gar in the stands? Britain, Europe…
    Europe is just trying the experiment that the US made work for the past 120 years…. the US is a nation of immigrants it’s easy to show how “unracist” you are when you control the makeup of your population. Egypt won’t recognize 3rd generation Palestinians as citizens even if 3/4 of their grandparents are Egyptian descent.

    Obama is the second coming of Carter, there is no doubt about it. From the way he took over the party, to the election against an uncharismatic standard-bearer opponent in the elections, to his belief that America is bad, and it’s all America’s fault anyway, and that all that is necessary to make everything work is appeasement and humility, and oh, let’s try to fix are suffering economy by implementing socialist ideas.

    All true except Carter ran in 76 as a centrist on economic issues. That may have been a front but that’s the ticket he ran on.
    Second – scarily Carter would have been re-elected except for double digit inflation, Arab oil embargo helped cause – and the Iranian hostage crisis. Even with that he still was winning until the end when Reagan figured out how to effectively use those.

    Also, come on man… I bet every member of your family thinks Carter is the greatest most compassionate man in the world… and all bought his Apartheid Book.

    That being said, I will feel bad for Obama when this eventually happens though, because unlike every other President before him, Obama isn’t just running as himself, he is running as the Black Candidate, so when he fails, it’s not just him that will be looked upon as a failure, but his race with him. The nice white people of America will congratulate themselves when he is elected for no longer being a racist nation (they did elect a black man after all) and when he fails they probably wouldn’t run another Black candidate for President for another 30 years or so.

    WRONG – Obama as a man won’t be an “embarrassment” to his race period. As a President he’ll eventually be assessed as any other President.. except by CNN who was in love with Clinton before and will do the same for him.

    Obama will finally be assessed based on him and all of the race merchants will lose sway bcs middle class decent America won’t feel shamed into having to like a President that think isn’t a good President for whatever reason. Comedians will be able to mock him bcs of him and his wife regardless of his skin color and black/white heritage.

    And finally third – a lot of black conservative writers and commentators will be able to take down the left and get a lot more credence. Sowell and Williams will be at their finest hour.

    I don’t think most Americans give a crap if he’s black or white.

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  30. Pastor of the Church of McCain
    July 8, 2008 at 12:14 am

    I love it when that Ass wipe Tedders reaches into the toilet after a healthy defecation and smears a little poop on his fingers to come wipe off on this blog — Asia’s approval ratings of US policies are at a 5 year high — leaving just enough under his fingernails to sniff at night when his head momentarily clears.

    How gracious of you…

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  31. Mike Nargiziain
    July 8, 2008 at 12:21 am

    An Egyptian woman who has lived here for about 12 years… told me the other day that she was scared when she first moved here bcs many of her neighbors were black… bcs she watched so many American videos and movies in Egypt about black people…. of course most of those movies were made/produced and/or written by black people… especially the whole gangster rap industry.
    Then she wanted to introduce me to her nephew in from Egypt and I stuck out my hand to a tall tan skinned guy to which she got insulted and said “I dont’ think so”…. (the guy was a good looking light skinned black guy not him)… her nephew was actually a whiter than me nerdy Egyptian guy doing reidency in NYC for 6 months.
    I don’t know if her implication was that Americans are racist towards black by portraying gang movies etc… or that Jooooss in Hollywood do that…. lol…

    Kind of ironic that she was implying that her racism is also due to America.. her otherwise pristine unracist Eygptian mind… right after I told her well just as you realized how wrong you were about the way you guys portray Jewish people… to which she laughed and said no that’s just in our blood when we are born… (most of her kid’s friends and their customers are Jewish)

    LOL… sometimes real life and people are 10x more ridiculous than movies or comedian’s stories.

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  32. CasioRZ2
    July 8, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Spot-on article. The US does seem to be the only country so fascinated with what other countries think about it. Meanwhile, the other countries are thinking about how they can use that to further their own interests. Obama will play right into that.

    If another country and the US have the same interests on a subject, then it is natural that they will work together towards it. If they do not, a Republican administration usually prefers actions that favor US interests. Democrat administrations prefer whatever “feels good”, without respect to US interests. They are easy to con. Jimmy Carter was the penultimate example of that.

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  33. Craig
    July 8, 2008 at 12:49 am

    I won’t say anything more because I don’t want you to get your marine bodies to beat me up. I’m not built for that. :)

    LouLou, that was actually pretty bad advice I gave there! I forgot about the “run before the police arrive” part a couple times, and it didn’t work out so well. Nevermind :O

    Anyone else think “I hate Zionist Theives” is most likely to be a 13 year old gangsta living in Nebraska?

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  34. christina/ohio
    July 8, 2008 at 1:29 am

    I hope you are wrong on this. I don’t know a single person who plans to vote for BO. Clinton won the primary here and from what I’m hearing they either aren’t planning to vote or do like Democrats did in 1980 and cross the line.

    You are right about BO being the second coming of Carter. If you study their speeches you will soon find out how similar they really are.

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  35. JT
    July 8, 2008 at 2:28 am

    Mike Nargiziain says:

    Then she wanted to introduce me to her nephew in from Egypt and I stuck out my hand to a tall tan skinned guy to which she got insulted and said “I dont’ think so”…. (the guy was a good looking light skinned black guy not him)… her nephew was actually a whiter than me nerdy Egyptian guy doing reidency in NYC for 6 months.
    I don’t know if her implication was that Americans are racist towards black by portraying gang movies etc… or that Jooooss in Hollywood do that…. lol…

    I don’t understand, why did she felt insulted when you extended your hand to shake her nephew’s hand?

    Pastor of the Church of McCain Says:

    I love it when that Ass wipe Tedders reaches into the toilet after a healthy defecation and smears a little poop on his fingers to come wipe off on this blog — Asia’s approval ratings of US policies are at a 5 year high — leaving just enough under his fingernails to sniff at night when his head momentarily clears.

    How gracious of you…

    That was the most foul, most uncivilized post I have ever read on this blog. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

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  36. Mike Nargiziain
    July 8, 2008 at 3:31 am

    the guy I thought was her nephew was a tall light skinned black guy that worked at their restaurant.. it wasn’t their nephew… the point is that she is prejudiced against blacks to some/large degree.. which is fine a lot of immigrants are prejudiced… the ironic part about it is she watched Al Jazeera every night which tells her how America is the mossssssssst racist (supposedly) country in the world… and she’s really more prejudiced than the average American in my opinion… and she’s Egyptian about 35 living her for about 12 years… now you got the whole story.

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  37. Joe Blunt
    July 8, 2008 at 7:58 am

    “Obama promises to increase Pentagon spending, boost the size of the Army and Marines, bolster the Special Forces, expand intelligence agencies and maintain the hundreds of US military bases that dot the globe.”

    This should be enough to convince anyone that Obama’s foreign policy will be anything BUT how this blog post just described it.

    Anyone who’s read or listened to Obama’s speeches and public statements, looked at his cabinet roster and appointments, or observed his votes in Congress knows he doesn’t deviate in the slightest from the hawkish trajectory of the Democratic Party since the beginning of the century.

    As for the Carter comparison: Sure. To the extent that follows this ideological tradition:

    “Let our position be absolutely clear. An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.”

    -President Jimmy Carter, State of the Union address, January 23, 1980

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  38. franchie
    July 8, 2008 at 9:27 am

    tedders represents the archetype of the eternal and generous Americans that we use to like, that came to help us to remove an evil dictature whitout counting how many american lifes would be sacrified. This is also the America that we still like. Though the internationalist pacifist elitism tried/tries to convince us that they are just a blood thursty gang. Might be that some of their political representants are alike, as so everywhere in the world, but the “very” American has not “evil” in mind.

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  39. Michael
    July 8, 2008 at 10:53 am

    This analysis is spot on! I’m especially glad to see someone bringing up the apostate point. As an American, I’ll vote for McCain, but really– we need another Reagan.

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  40. tedders
    July 8, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Hey Beth, how much CNN kool aid do you drink? :)

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  41. JT
    July 8, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    the guy I thought was her nephew was a tall light skinned black guy that worked at their restaurant.. it wasn’t their nephew… the point is that she is prejudiced against blacks to some/large degree.. which is fine a lot of immigrants are prejudiced… the ironic part about it is she watched Al Jazeera every night which tells her how America is the mossssssssst racist (supposedly) country in the world… and she’s really more prejudiced than the average American in my opinion… and she’s Egyptian about 35 living her for about 12 years… now you got the whole story.

    Ah, ic. Thanks.

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  42. tosca
    July 8, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Good article. I agree he will be elected for the reasons you state, sm. He will fail. The US is complicated with many issues at any given time all changing constantly. Manager, leader, negotiator, economist and military commander; Obama has little to no experience as any of these let alone all. Would you hire the manager of the mail room to run OPEC?
    He will fail, but the US will recover.

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  43. Mike Nargizian
    July 8, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    JOE BLUNT
    “This should be enough to convince anyone that Obama’s foreign policy will be anything BUT how this blog post just described it.”

    It’s called reading between the lines. In Obama’s hard left wing ideological heart he’s got a strong streek of very left wing elitist (imo) viewpoint. However, when you become President this has to modify because once your behind the controls and not reading a textbook it’s a different world.
    However, the speeches he’s giving now isn’t about him (imo) changing his point of view, it’s about him trying to become more centrist to peal as much of the middle of the road Rep and Independent voters as he can and become President. THUS, WHAT THAT SPEECH TELLS YOU IS THAT RATHER THAN “CH CH CH CHANGES” HE’S AS CALCULATING AND CYNICAL AND POWER HUNGARY AS THE NEXT POLITICIAN TRYING TO GET ELECTED”

    Anyone who’s read or listened to Obama’s speeches and public statements, looked at his cabinet roster and appointments, or observed his votes in Congress knows he doesn’t deviate in the slightest from the hawkish trajectory of the Democratic Party since the beginning of the century.

    Really? Then you live in your own Daily Kos Kool Aid fantasy world.. too bad Robert Fisk or Ken Livingstone isn’t running bcs you might prefer them eh?

    As for the Carter comparison: Sure. To the extent that follows this ideological tradition:
    “Let our position be absolutely clear. An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.”
    -President Jimmy Carter, State of the Union address, January 23, 1980

    That’s pretty good pulling out 1 quote and making it a mandate to prove your narrow minded Kool Aid opinion. If Jimmy Carter is a hawk then the only ideal candidate for you must be Ramsay Clark or the UFO Congressman, and then we all know what planet you’re on.

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  44. James
    July 9, 2008 at 2:06 am

    Any chance you could become US Secretary of State? I mean you hit the nail on the head.

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  45. leo
    July 9, 2008 at 5:45 am

    As far as I am concerned it is not what they think of us Americans should worry but rather they should worry about what us Americans think of them.

    “Whole 9 yards” movie (as best as I can remember): “Let’s not worry about how many people I killed. It is how I get along with those who are still alive that counts”.

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  46. Joe Blunt
    July 9, 2008 at 6:27 am

    As far as I am concerned it is not what they think of us Americans should worry but rather they should worry about what us Americans think of them.

    This is exactly the prevailing chauvinist attitude in America when bereft of all the bullshit pretense and “democracy/human rights/liberty/freedom” lip service. The latter being fodder the unwashed, stupid, and naive are all but eager to guttle, and then regurgitate into their children’s minds.

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  47. Joe Blunt
    July 9, 2008 at 7:12 am

    It’s called reading between the lines.

    You can barely decipher a Shel Silverstein poem, let alone communicate an original thought about politics. Never mind that one doesn’t need to “read between the lines” to see the forest. Obama is center-right, as have been all his Party predecessors. This is Democrat Party practice, not pandering. In fact, Obama’s most recent party antecedent, Bill Clinton, was, along with chum Tony Blair (to his Labour), instrumental in consolidating that center-right trajectory. Just to give you a taste:

    “President Clinton has done more to harm the environment and to weaken environmental regulations in three years than presidents Bush and Reagan did in 12 years.”

    That was Sierra Club President David Brower in 1996.

    And what the hell does this mean:

    That’s pretty good pulling out 1 quote and making it a mandate to prove your narrow minded Kool Aid opinion. If Jimmy Carter is a hawk then the only ideal candidate for you must be Ramsay Clark or the UFO Congressman, and then we all know what planet you’re on.

    That was his fucking mandate. In fact it became known as The Carter Doctrine. By all means, look it up.

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  48. Craig
    July 9, 2008 at 10:26 am

    In fact it became known as The Carter Doctrine.

    Carter had a doctrine? Are you serious? And you are praising somebody who had a hard-line doctrine that he never even tried to implement? Here we are, laughing at Carter, and you come along and give us another reason to laugh? And act like you are transferring carter’s non-existent credibility to Obama? Should we expect Obama’s pronouncements of immutable US policy to be equally valuable?

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  49. Wawaweewa
    July 9, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    ummmm i’m pretty bad with math, in addition to many other things…could someone kindly help me out?

    OBAMA X (4 ERRATIC YEARS) = 8 X (HILL/BUBBA)

    OR

    OBAMA X (4 ERRATIC TEARS) = 8 X (THE NEXT REGAN)

    THE FIRST SCENARIO SEEMS FRIGHTENING, THE SECOND ONE EVEN MORESO (NOT B/C IT’S REGAN.) But do to the fact that the republicans might spend 40 years in the wilderness looking for that ever so elusive next Regan ala the dems with JFK.

    It seems that nancy regan has been beatified by the GOP just like jackie was 50 years earlier by the dems.

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  50. Adam B.
    July 9, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    I haven’t read the entire thread but concerning this quote:

    “how this man intends to both balance the budget ( with its huge deficit) and implement Universal Healthcare (which any idiot would tell you wouldn’t exactly be..ehh..cheap). Or, if you are suffering from the shitty deal you got from your healthcare provider and you don’t care how this gets financed, explain to me again how he will “convince” the Businesses that left the US for China or India to come back to the US, where they will have to pay both higher taxes AND labor costs, plus whatever new taxes he intends to raise to finance your healthcare.”

    … my answer would be: Look at Denmark (or Finland, etc.) – we have this system and it works like a charm. We haven’t had any serious problem with companies relocating either. Sure, they move their manual production to India and China, but we have a shortage in manpower as it is and haven’t got anyone to do the hard manual work anyway… :)

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  51. Lynnette in Minnesota
    July 9, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Great post, Sandmonkey! :lol:

    Just a couple of things I wanted to mention:

    As I understand it, Cindy McCain had undergone multiple back surgeries after rupturing a disk. Due to continuing pain she began taking more of the pills then were prescribed and became addicted to Percocet and Vicodin. Having watched my mother deal with back problems I can see where someone may do so. It’s extremely painful and frustrating.

    I’m not sure if Obama would have to do a lot to bring business back to the US. Some of them have already been convinced by high transportation costs to move their operations back to either Mexico or the United States. It’s not a stampede exactly, but it is a bit of a reverse migration.

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  52. leo
    July 9, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Jou Blunt #50,

    “This is exactly the prevailing chauvinist attitude in America when bereft of all the bullshit pretense and “democracy/human rights/liberty/freedom” lip service. The latter being fodder the unwashed, stupid, and naive are all but eager to guttle, and then regurgitate into their children’s minds.”

    Actually this is prevailing chauvinist (if you like) attitude in whole of the World and rest is just a load of BS only clueless idealist who has nothing to be responsible for would believe in.

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  53. christina/ohio
    July 10, 2008 at 4:26 am

    When I was refering to the Carter years I was more refering to the 23% interest rates ad the double digit unemployment numbers as well as his failures on Iran. I take it by your words you were born long after the Carter years?

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  54. Mike Nargizian
    July 10, 2008 at 7:06 am

    JOE BLUNT -
    You can barely decipher a Shel Silverstein poem, let alone communicate an original thought about politics.

    You’ve read 1 post of mine and you’ve tried to then insult me… well, that’s kind of similar to you pulling 1 line Jimmah C said and then trying to explain he was a right of center hawk!!

    Obama is center-right, as have been all his Party predecessors. This is Democrat Party practice, not pandering.

    The country is center, Obama is left of left center more likely far left. Clinton started out way left on a few issues, like Healthcare and then he realized the country is in the center and if try to shove Universal Health Care down the chute, you then follow it down the chute at the end of your first term.

    You can slightly shift direction of the Titanic you can’t make a 90 degree turn. Far left loons like you who idolize Ramsay Clark, Code Pink, Daily Kos, the UFO Congressman and Ken Livingstone don’t get that.
    Thus – anything right of them is right of center on your paradigm, even comically Jimmah Carter.

    Mike

    In fact, Obama’s most recent party antecedent, Bill Clinton, was, along with chum Tony Blair (to his Labour), instrumental in consolidating that center-right trajectory. Just to give you a taste:

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  55. Joe Blunt
    July 10, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Carter had a doctrine? Are you serious? And you are praising somebody who had a hard-line doctrine that he never even tried to implement? Here we are, laughing at Carter, and you come along and give us another reason to laugh?

    Anyone who knows anything about politics in America knows every American president in the 20th century has been designated a foreign policy “Doctrine” by historians, analysts, and experts, regardless of political affiliation. The quote I provided above is known by everyone, right, left, and center as The Carter Doctrine. You would be laughed at in another setting for challenging this.

    Did he consistently apply the doctrine? Theoretically, a debatable point. In my “opinion”, he very clearly stood by his word. Our presence in the Middle East before this point was light; diplomacy, surrogate power, and intelligence were the modes of operation. Carter was the first American president to begin militarization in the region, about the same time the Russians were advancing in Afghanistan and a revolution in Iran was taking place. Carter apologists will say that he warned America early on about it’s energy dependence and that entanglement in the Middle East would become necessary if this wasn’t addressed. That was a year or so before the Doctrine speech in 1980.

    And act like you are transferring carter’s non-existent credibility to Obama? Should we expect Obama’s pronouncements of immutable US policy to be equally valuable?

    Um…. Where do I give credit to Carter or Obama?

    2nd Q: Yes.

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  56. Craig
    July 10, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Anyone who knows anything about politics in America…

    Which is you? And who else? People like you?

    knows every American president in the 20th century has been designated a foreign policy “Doctrine” by historians, analysts, and experts, regardless of political affiliation. The quote I provided above is known by everyone, right, left, and center as The Carter Doctrine. You would be laughed at in another setting for challenging this.

    I’m laughing at you for thinking a bunch of empty rhetoric can be considered a “doctrine”. What planet are you living on?

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  57. leo
    July 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Obama will fail because similarly to Bush he is lousy public speaker. His charisma is disappearing quickly. Even Jessy Jackson does not fall for it.

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  58. bleh
    July 10, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    I have heard of the Carter doctrine also. Carter was the first president to identify ME oil as a strategic interest for the US and global economy and since then we have had to help them keep the oil pumping. Craig, here is the time-line:

    Kennedy: Fuck me. I have been shot.

    LBJ: Middle East?

    Nixon: I need to start drinking less. What? A war? I missed an entire war when I was on a drinking binge? Damn, if the public knew about that I would be ruined.

    Ford- I am not involved in the M.E. lol, wtf, I can’t believe I am the President.

    Carter- Oil is important. I wish the leaders of your authoritarian governments just start being nice. It is in the long-term interest of the United States to keep the oil moving so the global economy can function. blah blah blah, jesus, blah blah…. <—–Carter doctrine in place

    Reagan- These people are crazy, keep the oil pumping and we will leave you alone

    Bush I- We can’t have a dictator invading members of the U.N. and controlling all the oil in the ME. You guys do whatever you want, but help us kick him out of Kuwait. Sry Lebanon, ur fucked. It must suck to be one of those little territories that always end up being a part of “Greater ____”.

    Clinton- Keep the oil pumping. Saddam, I am going to bomb you often because the first gulf war did not really end and I am worried about WMD’s.

    Bush II- Saddam, I am going to hang you and kill your evil little children. You dictators need to move into the 21st century, but maybe not. I don’t really plan things out so we are kind of going to figure this out as we go. Keep the oil moving. <—-Bush doctrine of preemptive war

    Obama- Preemption is the policy of the US government and we know that you cannot change policy and stuff like that. We are going to invade countries that are in a state of civil war and protect the civilians. Yes, I know that it sounds exactly like Iraq, but it is not because I am so awesome.

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  59. howard_woofwoof
    July 11, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Good analysis. Insightful. But don’t go to Dubai. It’s a bubble and is going to pop.

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  60. brooklynjon
    July 11, 2008 at 2:01 am

    SM,

    This is the best post I’ve seen in a long, long time. Spot on.
    Of course, we managed to survive four years of Carter, but we are still suffering the consequences.

    And this comment amused me:
    ” His father had been raised Muslim, but was a “confirmed atheist” by the time he met Obama’s mother.”

    Who exactly is it that is doing these confirmations? The Atheist Church? Funny! All the more so due to its being unintentional.

    bj

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  61. Mike Nargizian
    July 11, 2008 at 2:33 am

    JOE BLUNT -
    The military Carter pulled out support for the Shah and allowed the “Revolution” in Iran to happen. The Shah was a dictator and corrupt but the Islamist nuts wouldn’t have gotten control if not for Carter’s pacificism there… you may have missed that point in your gloss over? Ironically the Shah was instituting land reforms to try and modernize the country and that’s what the Islamists were able to capitalize on…

    And you didn’t need a rocket scientist to explain that our dependence on oil was a potential problem… the West had been eager for the oil there since WWI… lol!!!

    And I don’t give a shit what the “Carter Doctrine” was… it’s almost meaningless… as in any Presidency…. things are fluid – politicians make political statements pandering statements and coded statements because they’re politicians and their message has to play around the world… Add that all up and that statment is 100% MEANINGLESS… as evidenced by the fact that Jimmy Carter said it….

    CLUE PHONE OUT JOE BLUNNNNNT…

    Mike

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  62. Craig
    July 11, 2008 at 4:39 am

    And you didn’t need a rocket scientist to explain that our dependence on oil was a potential problem… the West had been eager for the oil there since WWI… lol!!!

    Yep. Not to mention that the Arabs and other assorted assholes had embargoed us TWICE in the 1970s. Once on Nixon’s watch and once on… guess who… Carter’s watch. I doubt anyone who was around back then has forgotten. I was just a little kid when it happened the first time, and I can recall. Not to mention all those crappy little japanese cars everyone started driving in the late 1970s. before all the US auto makers started cranking out Pintos and Gremlins instead of the Firebirds and Mustangs that they’d been making :(

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  63. Gila
    July 11, 2008 at 9:11 am

    Scary, but oh so true.

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  64. Wayne
    July 11, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Memryt (first post); Your input was something less than helpful. Could you give an example or two, or are you just throwing rhetorical rocks?

    Yeah, that’s what I thought.

    Spot on Sandmonkey!

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  65. nObamassiah
    July 11, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Obama was born a muslim. He was also a Christian for awhile. But he is currently a “Black Liberation Theologist”. The Trinity Church of Christ was founded in BLT. James Cone the founder of BLT even says that Trinity is the best example of BLT, and Rev. Wright the most informed BLT preacher. What is “Black Liberation Theology”? It’s a combination of Christian beliefs and Marxists ideas. LOOK IT UP and SEE FOR YOURSELF.

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  66. Zionist Sandmonkey Aberration
    July 11, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I think Obama will probably do a lot of evil things inadvertently like any US president must ,but they will be far less than 10% of what both Bush Jr and Sr have committed and since these acts are usually committed amongst the — so called undesirable — nations of the world, that is why he is hated by a right wing populace that is accustomed to this over so many years.

    Inevitably however, this soon to be regressive right wing will become the left wing once they defeated and the left becomes the majority and the — occupying — and driving force in 2010 politics.

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  67. christina/ohio
    July 11, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    “I doubt anyone who was around back then has forgotten. I was just a little kid when it happened the first time, and I can recall. Not to mention all those crappy little japanese cars everyone started driving in the late 1970s. before all the US auto makers started cranking out Pintos and Gremlins instead of the Firebirds and Mustangs that they’d been making”

    Oh I remember odd and even days very well! Also our school district went to using one building for all of the grades while I was in 10th grade which meant that I had to be in class prompty at 4:30am! After living through the mess he made I cast my first Presidental vote for Regan in 1980.

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  68. maher
    July 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Sandmonkey’s GUIDE TO GAY CRUISING IN CAIRO:

    1. Ask a felluca man in Luxor to take you to Banana Island.

    2. Linger for more than sixty seconds at Ramses train station in central Cairo.

    3. Invite a Luxor kalesh driver to go to smoke hash in a sugar cane field

    4. Ask a lorry full of soldiers for a lift, ask them if it’s true that male rape in Egypt is common and then five minutes later confess that you are an Israeli spy.

    5. Tell an Aswan shopkeeper that it’s not the goods on his shelves you’re interested in.

    6. Take note of advice given in the American University in Cairo 1999 handbook which warns “earrings on men are considered a sign of homosexuality.”

    7. Tell a bedouin jeep driver in Dahab that you want to go on a hash and beer party – just you and him – under the desert stars.

    8. Ignore the Rough Guide’s advice to women to avoid the bathing pool at Siwa’s Fatnis Island around sunset as sexually frustrated off duty soldiers might harass bathing tourists.

    ENJOY

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  69. GaryB
    July 13, 2008 at 3:28 am

    Let’s make this simple, and let me preface this with the statement that I am NOT racist. Obama will win, Obama will be assassinated withing 6 months of his inauguration, and whoever he has picked as veep will find themselves in one helluva mess.

    End of story, and McCain will be laughing all the way back to Congress. Too bad Ron Paul dropped out.

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  70. Mohamed
    July 13, 2008 at 6:36 am

    Craig,
    Not that you have a clue of anything in this life that I had to correct you, or that I can emphasize enough the level of your ignorance, stupidity and Nazism, but since you’re assuming the role of some deep thinking strategic and historical analyst, there was only one single Arab “ass holes” oil embargo in the seventies, that was the one in 73 to 74.
    Ok now, I had to say it, you can go back to your perverts anonymous meeting.

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  71. Mike Nargizian
    July 13, 2008 at 8:06 am

    Mohammed -
    Yes, but there were massive gas lines in the late 70′s when Carter was President… I distinctly remember waiting on line with my family as a kid…
    and I was way too young to remember 73-74… something happened in the lates 70′s… OPEC did something at that point.

    Btw – don’t get the ‘perverts anonymous’ insult to Craig, not that I care but don’t get how that’s an insult… “recovering perverts” meeting might be an insult I guess? but not a very good one or one that would indicate you’re past junior high insults…. anyway…

    Mike

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  72. elie
    July 13, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Gary Coleman for president!

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  73. leo
    July 14, 2008 at 12:01 am

    “Gary Coleman for president!”

    Whachutalkin’bout?

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  74. nony
    July 14, 2008 at 2:35 am

    @Mohammed,

    There were two oil crisis in the seventies. The first was the 1973 embargo through which oil producing countries managed to quadruple the price/barrel. The second was in 1979 due to the Iraq/Iran war, that time prices only tripled, poor producers!
    In six years the price/barrel increased seven fold. That is history, documented & indisputable. This is how it is taught also to high school students in Europe. Unless you have proof of the opposite?

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  75. leo
    July 14, 2008 at 3:29 am

    @78,

    Of two oil crises can second one be blamed on embargo?

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  76. Scott
    July 14, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Excellent postage, my man! I’m gonna repost excerpts with linkage back to you.

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  77. Mohamed
    July 14, 2008 at 6:10 am

    Nony,
    Is your English that bad not to know the meaning of embargo, in 1973 it was an embargo, meaning an intentional and coordinated cut in production by the arab oil producing countries, but in 1979 it was a disruption in production due to (not a coordinated or an intentional act) the Iranian revolution, and not due to the Iran/Iraq war as you’ve mentioned, which by the way didn’t start until the end of 1980 not 1979 as you’ve mentioned professor Nony.
    People, please, if you’re so dumb and ignorant, at least don’t be so professorial and dead certain about your hallucinations and delusions.

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  78. Craig
    July 14, 2008 at 6:52 am

    People, please, if you’re so dumb and ignorant…

    Are you the same guy who couldn’t process the idea that there could be such a thing as Arab porn, so he decided I must be a “pervert” for pointing it out? lol.

    And what do you hope to gain by making these semantic arguments, anyway? Does it make any difference, whether it was an embargo or not?

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  79. leo
    July 14, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Mohamed,

    For you being this rude and arrogant and all, how often do people call you an ass hole (for example). Or you stopped counting long time ago? Just wondering.

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  80. Snake
    July 14, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I love this blog…
    Nothing else to add…

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  81. Mohamed
    July 14, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Leo,
    It’s nice to call me rude while calling me an ass hole in the same sentence, at least I don’t use profanities and I am not potty mouthed as you. Regarding the arrogance, when dealing with retarded ignorant people and hillbillies like you on this blog, of course I’ve got to be arrogant.

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  82. leo
    July 14, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    I take it, quite often.

    Thank you

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  83. Craig
    July 14, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    I don’t use profanities and I am not potty mouthed as you. Regarding the arrogance, when dealing with retarded ignorant people and hillbillies…

    Ethnic slurs like hillbilly are OK though, eh? lol.

    Pretty sure that word doesn’t apply to leo, by the way! Just an FYI.

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  84. leo
    July 14, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Unlike being arrogant, being hillbilly does not mean being stupid.

    I doubt Mohamed will ever get this idea.

    PS. I wipe my nose with my left sleeve, which is considered very unsophisticated on the hill closer to town. They say town people do it with their right sleeves. I am lefty and I keep forgetting this very important rule all the time.

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  85. nony
    July 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    @ Mohamed,

    I won’t even try to ask you whether you actually bother to read what you are responding to before you start bashing people, the answer is painfully obvious, you don’t. Where exactly did I mention two oil embargoes? The discussion was about Carter’s policies, oil crisis & the Middle East . You do not have to read a book , try to even just check the net for the second oil crisis: in 1979 Iranian revolution instigated the crisis, but it escalated with the Iran/Iraq war . Since both events are intrinsically linked, reference to the ’79 crisis stresses the war is because it even if it did not start the crisis, it lasted longer, thus affecting oil production on a long term. As I mentioned before, this is the explanation given in history text book of European Union schools ( younger brother just finished his course).

    The insults you use when responding to me, & others, say absolutely nothing about me or them, but instead expose to all of us painfully too much about your character, your intellectual capacities, your manners & upbringing. You are the kind of person who likes to terrorize people into silence with your insults, a small despot in the making . You are not interested in discussions or debates, more in bludgeoning anyone who disagrees with you. I have yet to see a post in which you have something nice to say to anybody. Find another way to deal with your insecurities.

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  86. Mohamed
    July 14, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Nony,
    Whateverrrrrrrr.

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  87. Mike Nargiziain
    July 15, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Mohammed get off the porn sites man seriously…

    I wipe my shoe with you – you ignorant, stupid, hill billy, country music listening, nazi, un-educated retard…… and go back to your “perverts anonymous meeting

    And anyone actually gets upset at this guy… you ever hear of something called projection?

    Mike

    PS Essentially OPEC is a monopolistic Cartel that has single handedly manipulated the market for decades… those Colonialist Arabs!!! ;-0

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  88. JT
    July 15, 2008 at 1:39 am

    Originally posted by nony

    @ Mohamed,

    I won’t even try to ask you whether you actually bother to read what you are responding to before you start bashing people, the answer is painfully obvious, you don’t. Where exactly did I mention two oil embargoes? The discussion was about Carter’s policies, oil crisis & the Middle East . You do not have to read a book , try to even just check the net for the second oil crisis: in 1979 Iranian revolution instigated the crisis, but it escalated with the Iran/Iraq war . Since both events are intrinsically linked, reference to the ‘79 crisis stresses the war is because it even if it did not start the crisis, it lasted longer, thus affecting oil production on a long term. As I mentioned before, this is the explanation given in history text book of European Union schools ( younger brother just finished his course).

    The insults you use when responding to me, & others, say absolutely nothing about me or them, but instead expose to all of us painfully too much about your character, your intellectual capacities, your manners & upbringing. You are the kind of person who likes to terrorize people into silence with your insults, a small despot in the making . You are not interested in discussions or debates, more in bludgeoning anyone who disagrees with you. I have yet to see a post in which you have something nice to say to anybody. Find another way to deal with your insecurities.

    Mohamed, I believe that’s called “check and mate.” And “whatever” is very juvenile, too.

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  89. Zionist Sandmonkey Aberration
    July 15, 2008 at 2:42 am

    Nony seriously get a life already! Maybe with Sandmonkey or whatever, like date, fuck, fight, whatever but at least hook up, preoccupy your fucking selves and spare us all this tirade of yours and his with the whole I wanna be American schmuck impersonation’s with that fake Zionist fervor supposedly coming out of Cairo from the so called 2 “Retarded Egyptians” because you know deep down inside you both hate the living day lights out of Israel, so give us all a fucking break already , please and thank you.

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  90. nony
    July 15, 2008 at 3:17 am

    @#93

    Someone forgot her medication?
    Whatever name you use, you are still very recognizable. You are always lurking in the back ready to pounce ,with astounding obsessive perseverance, using the usual gibberish & foul language, but rarely, if ever, with an opinion . Recently you added a tendency for make believe assumptions about people who post here, well..
    Thank you for your concern for my ‘life’, however, rest assured it is misplaced. All is well, life is good. I can not respond to the rest of your post because your rant is quite unintelligible, sit down, wipe your chin, & use a cold compress on your head. There is no need for a tantrum , if you don’t like what I write, just don’t read it.

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  91. Mohamed
    July 15, 2008 at 4:06 am

    Mike,
    I didn’t exactly say that, but I have to admit, your version’s way better and more representative of what I think.
    Regarding the projection thing, you’re absolutely right, I’d never deny that we’re all perverts to a certain extent, but I definitely believe that right wing pieces of crap are a way far more perverted species, while being absolutely hypocritical about it (the chrystal methodist mega church pastor, larry craig, the anti gay gay mayor of Spokane, J.Edgar Hoover, “Hijabi Porn” Craig etc.).

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  92. Mike Nargiziain
    July 15, 2008 at 4:09 am

    whatever….. go back to the porn site your wasting your monthly script time tying…

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  93. EgyPeter
    July 15, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Mike N. and nony – you guys are awesome!! God bless you guys for having the patience to deal with dipshits :)

    And once you start seeing the ad hominem attacks – we all know what we’re dealing with…it’s their ONLY tactic.

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  94. Charles
    July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    Lebanon plans state ceremony for freed prisoners in Beirut !

    Samir Kuntar and four other Lebanese prisoners will receive an official state welcoming when they are released by Israel on Wednesday as part of the prisoner swap with Hizbullah.

    The five men will be greeted at Beirut’s airport by Prime Minister Fuad Saniora and President Michel Suleiman.

    Later, a huge rally will be held in the capital’s southern suburbs where Hizbullah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah will speak, the group’s Al-Manar TV has said.

    French news agency AFP reports that the coastal road from the Israeli border to the southern port city of Sidon has been covered with Hizbullah decorations, and hundreds of volunteers have been hanging banners to praise Hizbullah’s role in the prisoners’ release throughout the south of the country.

    In Kuntar’s home in Abey, streets are decorated with banners welcoming the return of the former member of the radical Palestine Liberation Front. “Samir Kuntar is the conscience of Lebanon, Palestine and the Arab nation. Abey welcomes the hero, prisoner Samir Kuntar,” reads one sign.

    Meanwhile, a senior Hizbullah official has said Israel’s approval of a prisoner swap with his group is an “official admission of defeat.”

    Hizbullah’s commander in south Lebanon, Sheik Nabil Kaouk, said Tuesday that Wednesday’s prisoner exchange showed Israel’s “humiliating failure in confronting the resistance militarily and politically.”

    The cabinet gave final approval for the deal Tuesday, a day ahead of the expected return of five Lebanese prisoners to Lebanon, Samir Kuntar among them in exchange for Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser.

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  95. leo
    July 15, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    What passes for Lebanese hero these days.

    Completely lost country.

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  96. Zionist Sandmonkey Aberration
    July 15, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Hhahaha @ 97 EgySpitter and @ 94 Nony.

    hAhaha wanna be aberrations NICE…..

    SWEET!…….

    NUFF SAID!

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  97. Ahmed
    July 16, 2008 at 1:22 am

    Zionists go home … leave the Middle East immediately.

    Go try that shit in South Africa man!

    Where they have their place for those who try and play the elitist Apartheid card!

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  98. Nony
    July 16, 2008 at 1:25 am

    My Pussy hurts .. ouch!

    Stop sexually harassing me!

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  99. Nony
    July 16, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Hey the above person is not me.

    I would never admit to my pussy hurting publicly like that..

    Although it itches a lot from time to time.

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  100. just-ignore-it
    July 16, 2008 at 1:44 am

    #103 does not sound like Nony’s either.

    It looks like our resident shit-for-brains is on its last leg. It started talking to itself, poor loner.

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  101. Clean-Machine
    July 16, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Hey guys dont even take all this seriously, a bunch of ABERRATIONS discussing politics. Jews and wannabe Americans who lost their virginities from their household help, I mean come on. Take a look at CarpetCrapper or Nony Darwish wannabe here or the likes of EgyDickpeter from FACEBOOK AKA Ajay Peter whose favorite word their like here is ad homonym. If you guys dont believe me here is the link to one of the groups he is an officer of.
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204925176
    You guys will really love that group cuz there is a lot of Islam bashing, but really, why does the bitch Ajay peter have to lie here but admit it there that he is one and the same. What a panicking Copt huh?

    Relax these misfits of society who are in the closet discontents learned English in a box of BiscoMisr cornflakes and they are just the natural evolution to collaborate abd colude with such Zionistic drivel. Anything that is away from the dusty norm in their country due to their putrid self esteem.

    Dont ever take one fucking word they say seriously,

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  102. Nony
    July 16, 2008 at 1:56 am

    @ 104, no shit Sherlock!

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  103. CarpetCaptain
    July 16, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Nothing goes to show that Lebanon has gone to hell more than a convicted murderous terrorist piece of shit being greeted at the airport by the PM.

    Israel is setting a really bad precedent releasing him. I understand that the dead soldiers’ families want to bring closure to their loved ones death but as a gov’t they have to be able to balance all the stakes and do whats for greater good. Releasing terrorists to get turned into heroes doesnt fit that criteria.

    Ahmad, mohammad, mona, clean : How’s the padded room treating you these days?

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  104. Eric
    July 16, 2008 at 2:10 am

    wow, you are great. this blog is going on my favorites list asap. I feel like i just read that manifesto from Jerry McGuire. round of applause!

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  105. CarpetCaptain
    July 16, 2008 at 2:11 am

    “Mohamed, I believe that’s called “check and mate.” And “whatever” is very juvenile, too.”

    JT: in language that “it” will understand please, that would translate into :

    That’s called “bitch and slap” ;)

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  106. yochanan
    July 16, 2008 at 2:33 am

    Cunter killed a little baby NICE HERO SOD OFF SCUMBAG

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  107. karen
    July 16, 2008 at 3:03 am

    I doubt that Kuntar will live the rest of his pathetic life in peace. I wouldn’t be using any cell phones if I were him!

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  108. Mike Nargiziain
    July 16, 2008 at 4:06 am

    Clean Machine is back and layin down some solid words of wizzzdome

    Jews and wannabe Americans who lost their virginities from their household help, I mean come on…..
    What a panicking Copt huh?……
    Anything that is away from the dusty norm in their country due to their putrid self esteem. Dont ever take one fucking word they say seriously,

    Projection exemplified well with a telling show of intelligence and class.

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  109. just-ignore-it
    July 16, 2008 at 4:22 am

    It knows.

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  110. Mohamed
    July 16, 2008 at 6:49 am

    CarpetCaptain,
    It’s really nice to know that you and Egyzeft are boy friends now, but you really don’t have to parrot his cheer leading for JT’s cheer leading for Nony, come on now, you’re retarded and sick enough to come up with your own original dumb things to say instead of using other retarded and sick people’s dumb things they’ve said.

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  111. Craig
    July 16, 2008 at 7:04 am

    but you really don’t have to parrot his cheer leading for JT’s cheer leading for Nony

    I hate to parrot what Mike’s been trying to tell you about “projection” but considering your history with being an unapologetic cheerleader for the most abusive people to comment on this blog, you might wanna at least look the word up? Or you could just keep providing the rest of us with a pretty good show! Your call.

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  112. Craig
    July 16, 2008 at 9:14 am

    I doubt that Kuntar will live the rest of his pathetic life in peace. I wouldn’t be using any cell phones if I were him!<

    I hope Israel at least learns a lesson from this, and begins executing people like him. I don’t know if Israel has Capital Punishment or not, but this man could have been tried (and executed) as a war criminal under international law, which would have removed the case from the civil court system.

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  113. R.I.P. Mona where ever you
    July 16, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    CarpetCleaner, why do you refer to Mona, because you heard Teddy refer to her? You don’t even know who she is or who she was, nor were you here back then when she was still around. You didnt exchange words with her nor did you ever know her. I just wanted to bring that to you and everyones attention, in the simple hope that you will not mention her again unless you you have a valid reason for doing so and can infer that you do have cause to mention her as of you know her, even with just a bit of modest proof.

    That being said.. wherever

    Let the games continue…

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  114. karen
    July 16, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Craig,

    As far as I know, they have capital punishment for World War Two Nazi war criminals. I think Eichmann was the only Nazi (or “person”) they executed. Maybe others who are more knowledgeable can let us know if this is correct.

    As you know, they do have other methods for their enemies. Ever wonder why Nasrallah is usually hiding in a hole? Anyways, they have to be very careful. Gilad Shallit is still alive and I know they would love to get him back that way. I hope that is possible, considering that barbarians are holding him.

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  115. nony
    July 16, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    @it,

    I told you before that there is no use trying to hide behind all these different names, the stench advertises you beyond any doubt. I am impressed by your ability to totally expose who you really are ,repeatedly, & so shamelessly. The words you use are from YOUR vocabulary, the experiences you describe must be also YOURS. This is what Mike meant by ‘projection’. I just wanted you to understand, knowing that you obviously have a problem in this department. You do not need to feel bad, we all understand that you cannot help yourself, or control these knee-jerk reactions. It is amusing to watch the antics of this site’s ‘troll-in-residence’. I assure you I am not offended by what you say, it is well known that baboons, monkeys & apes have a tendency to throw THEIR excrement at people when they are enraged, so what about an obsessive-compulsive troll….poor it. Now, sit down, wipe your chin & don’t forget your medication again. If you have another fit, most probably I will not respond, you’re kind of boring & predictably so repetitive!
    The sun came out for the first time in days, I’m going to enjoy my roses, no wasting more time on you
    bye ‘it’

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  116. Mohamed
    July 16, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Hi Craig,
    Loved your empty blog.

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  117. Solomon2
    July 16, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    You got us Americans pegged, Sandmonkey. Now will you return to the U.S. to become a citizen?

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  118. nony
    July 16, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    @ Troll-in-Residence, also known as “it”,

    It is unfortunate that it is necessary to repeat what I told you before, there is no use trying to hide behind all these different names, the stench advertises you beyond any doubt. You have an embarassing ability to totally expose who yourself for who you really are ,repeatedly, & so shamelessly. There is no need for this continuous demonstration of the caliber of your manners, background & values. The words you use are from YOUR vocabulary, the experiences you describe must also be YOURS. This is what Mike meant by ‘projection’. One needs to explain this to you to help you understand, knowing that you obviously have a problem in the intellectual department. You do not need to feel bad, we all understand that you cannot help yourself, or control these knee-jerk reactions. I assure you I am not offended by what you say,you may continue to name body parts & biological functions as much as you want. It is well known that baboons, monkeys & apes have a tendency to throw THEIR excrement at people when they are enraged. Knowing this, we will all be more tolerant, & just watch with amusement the antics of this blogs’ obsessive-compulsive troll….poor it. Now, sit down, wipe your chin & don’t forget your medication again.

    In case you feel like having another fit, you will excuse my not responding to you. Your fits/posts are boring & predictably so repetitive!
    The sun came out for the first time in days, I’m going to enjoy my roses, no wasting more time feeding the trolls

    bye ‘it’

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  119. Clean Machine
    July 16, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Ya you go ahead and do that….

    Y A W N!!!!!

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  120. Zionist Sandmonkey Abberation
    July 16, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    @ Nony, talk about stench…

    bitch we can smell your type a mile away..

    So insignificant is your life that you think you can come and rant along side the Jews who support the death and destruction of an entire Arab nation but still be so decadent to wanna go sniff your ugly roses. Save us Memryt Dody Nony whatever you are.

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  121. Clean Machine
    July 16, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    I knew you would deny it EgYPeter, At least admit that you have a lot of contempt for those who side with the views of anything remotely Muslim. You are more an off shoot of your atypical Coptic partisans movement. I mean there is nothing wrong with that, every man to his own! But please don’t lie about it.
    I have the proof right here COMMENT 669 on http://www.sandmonkey.org/2007/04/28/done/#comments

    And right after you posted this back in April of 2007 all of a sudden a magnanimous Ajay Peter appeared on Facebook in similar groups with similar views as yours here.

    Mind you the exact same writing style, errs in misspelled words, occasionally, and the excessive use of the word ad hominem etc ad infinitum.

    Aren’t you even remotely curious to who this person is on facebook with the name Ajay Peter that by sheer coincidence claims he is Egyptian and not Arab too, just like you do.

    I mean come on mate..This guy is a real soldier, you would gain great respect if you were to admit it were you, if you in fact, really do, stand by your ideals firmly.

    Are ya worried that people might see the meaner side of you over there than you are used to showing here.

    Here we are all winners, its cyber duh, nothing else, so nothing is real!

    Except the above which I wiish you would already assert. The more you deny it, the more credibility you lose for not even wondering who this body double of yours is.

    Lets have the Sandmonkey decide as well.

    Have a nice day

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  122. CarpetCaptain
    July 17, 2008 at 12:33 am

    It: How do you slime your way through life being such a useless, mindless piece of shit?

    Get help!

    BTW if the stench is bothering you tell your mom to go have a shower or bathe in the river or at the local mosque

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  123. tedders
    July 17, 2008 at 3:33 am

    It: How do you slime your way through life being such a useless, mindless piece of shit?

    Lets not insult cousin It. It’s Mona.

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  124. leo
    July 17, 2008 at 4:54 am

    It looks like our local troll got name for itself – ‘it’.

    Still, I’d rather we ignore it.

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  125. Roman Kalik
    July 17, 2008 at 8:48 am

    Karen, Craig,

    Israel has the death penalty for crimes against humanity, with a specific mention of WWII Nazi criminals. The one person to which this applied so far had been Adolf Eichmann, though it came pretty close to it with Ivan Demjanjuk.

    Kuntar could not be executed under any Israeli law once taken into custody, and I doubt any international court would have indicted him for war crimes – he wasn’t a uniformed soldier in an official standing army or openly state-sponsored militia, his actions weren’t during an official state of war, and frankly… Would *you* hand over Samir Kuntar to the same people who had, in fairly recent history, applauded Yasser Arafat’s speeches in the UN? At least in Israel he was in prison – in the hands of a third party, he could have just been sent back to Lebanon to be “tried” there.

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  126. twosret
    July 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    “Israel has the death penalty for crimes against humanity”

    LOOOOOOL

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  127. brooklynjon
    July 17, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Wow, this looks like one of those old movies in which everything deteriorates into a pie fight. Which would probably be more productive that what’s happened here. Sigh. So much for an enlightened sharing of disparate opinions. And right about here is where I get a pie thrown at my face.

    bj

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  128. tedders
    July 17, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    I thought this is the point where bj scolds us and sends us to our rooms with no dessert, no pie, no ice cream until we behave!!! :)

    If we’re good then later we can go out for treats. right? ;)

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  129. brooklynjon
    July 17, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    I was thinking of that, tedders, but I think I’ve lost some moral authority by disappearing for a while. Meantime I’m just looking out for that pie!

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  130. Ahmed
    July 17, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Man you are infatuated tedders with Mona & carpet Captian is a bay, insulting peoples Mom’s, what a fucking pathetic loser OMG…

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  131. Clean-Machine
    July 18, 2008 at 12:52 am

    What do you expect from An Arab turned yankee Doodle Cock Sucker Yum Yum Yum. Ooops CUM stain, call the CarpetCleaner AH HA HA HA

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  132. anonymous
    July 18, 2008 at 12:54 am

    Well Ahmed buddy what wud u xpekt Arab Garab sucking yankee Doodle Doo Cock looking for that Yum Yum Yum.

    CUM stain on the RUG, NO PROBLEM call the CarpetCleaner AH HA HA HA!

    MUA

    His mother is the one sucking the Pastors Cock hheee hheee hhee

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  133. Kafir
    July 18, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    SM,

    I disagree with only one thing you’ve written:

    “…they are more interested in creating common ground with the other side’s voter bloc than they are in pandering to their base.”

    While that is true of McCain, it is exactly the opposite for Obama. He has never, ever tried to reach out to Republicans, preferring to pander to his own base almost all the time. I am not a McCain fan, but will vote for him as the lesser of two evils.

    Aside from that, I hope my countrymen will wake up to what a phony Obama is in time to make sure he does not get elected. If they don’t, then what you’ve written is exactly how I see it playing out. That is unless one of the few hard core white racists we have left takes him out, but I doubt that will happen. Believe it or not, most racism in America these days is practiced by black people.

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  134. yochanan
    July 21, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Clean-Machine well i think of what they call a CAT GENIE when i see this name. except my cat’s waste is too good for this creep.

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  135. Israeli anonymous
    July 21, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    YACHANAN You hit the nail right on the head. I feel the same way too if you are talking about the carpetcaptain. CLEAN MACHINE is very clean indeed and takes no shit so thats why he points out peoples names and annihilates. Can’t beat him, can’t join him. A clean machine indeed!

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  136. Candace
    July 22, 2008 at 12:58 am

    Wow, you’ve basically persuaded me to stop liking Obama. Hmm…

    Well, I guess it’s all going to go to shit anyways no matter how you look at it.

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  137. Save_the_Jews
    July 22, 2008 at 1:03 am

    But you know how the saying goes..”If you can’t beat them, join them.”

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  138. Obama-08
    July 22, 2008 at 3:04 am

    Obama will be giving america does of humility and humbleness if he fails like predicted. In the end people are all about change!

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  139. Obama-08
    July 22, 2008 at 3:05 am

    * a dose

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  140. Mark
    July 24, 2008 at 8:54 am

    Why so cynical? I do not agree with a lot of what you’re saying. The race has not been decided yet. Polls have narrowed. A lot can still happen till November. McSame ist definetely a candidate of the past in need of some new world maps, as he is unable to use a computer let alone Google map.. used Czekoslovakia already twice.. this weekend: Iraq is a neighbouring country to Afghanistan..? asf.

    Do you really believe in the middle east that a canidate with the name of:

    Barack Hussein Obama

    will be elected president of the United States? To us Europeans the name obviously doesnt matter but to Americans?

    Obama’s world tour has been a hughe success so far and today he’ll deliver his speech in Berlin which a lot of folks are awaiting with great attention. Obama’s personality and charisma seems to impress most leaders he’s met. King Abdullah II drove him to the airport personally after the met for dinner! At the same time at home McCain has hit the Entry button of a computer keyboard for the first time in his life…imagine..! cowardly critisising Obama and then moving on to Kennebunkport and playing golf with the 84 year old Bush Sr. … make ur own choice!

    Of course the expectations would be hughe if Obama really wins in November. That there would be a lot of room for disappointment is sure. But on the other hand who wants to inherit a country in a total mess in every respect of the word! BushCo will leave the saloon door stupidly grinning as always and move on to the Carlye board with his croonies and laugh his ass off!

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  141. brooklynjon
    July 24, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Obama-08 @146

    “Obama will be giving america does of humility and humbleness if he fails like predicted.”

    What exactly is “humbleness”? Were it a word, would it not mean the same thing as “humility”?

    Mark@152,

    Are you suggesting that the presidency should be determined by a geography test? If so, then one need only look to the winner of the national geography bee as the most qualified candidate. When will people move past stupid “gotcha” games, and focus on substantive issues? Obama may well be the better candidate, but surely it’s not because he never calls the Czech Republic by its former name.

    bj

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  142. Mark
    July 25, 2008 at 11:01 am

    @ bj – No, I’m not suggesting a geography test as you well know. If McCain always boasts with his vast foreign policy experience one could expect that he at least get some basics right. How many times he pretends having been to Afghanistan? and he has not noticed that Iraq has no common borders with Afghanistan? Come one! Who is accusing whom of photo opportunities?? I mean his not a 10 year old talking to his granny, he talks to the nation and people are his judges.

    McSame lives in the past and does not have the receipies and the answers to a complex globalized world. His favourites tunes are from the sixties: the Beach Boys … Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran…??!!

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  143. tedders
    July 25, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    The huffington post, dumb, dumb, dumb.

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  144. brooklynjon
    July 26, 2008 at 4:31 am

    Mark,

    You know, I’ve been to lots of countries, and for many of them I would be unable to know with certainty the countries on their borders. And I would be less likely to get it right when placed under pressure by some journalist or another.

    The bottom line is that none of this has much to do with how good a president someone will be. Smart does not equal good president. We learned that with Carter. Between Reagan and Bush the father, Reagan was clearly not the smarter, but he was also clearly the more effective.

    When I chose for whom I will vote, I will not let superficialities like that sway me. I will focus on policy positions and those personal characteristics that really matter. I hope you do the same.

    bj

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  145. Mark
    July 26, 2008 at 9:40 am

    bj, forum

    Being European (but having lived for many years in North America), I and the big majority of Europeans have a different agenda for the world and also for the US. McSame would be a waste of time for 4 more years and you know it! If you believe you can continue living at the expense of the rest of the world in every way, the awakening will be the harder the longer you wait. You dont want me to list all the problems you should act on urgently?! Using 25% of the worlds oil supply for 4% of the worlds population? Using energy in all forms 3 to 4 times as much as the avarage OECD country? Being indebted on all levels in totally irresponsible way? How long will the Chinese and Japanese fund your debt and lifestyle? A foreign policy – colonialism à la Carlyle! – which has been a desater for the past 40 years, escpecially in the Middle East! You really want to go on like this???

    I agree with sandmonkey on one thing. Maybe Obama’s term comes too early. The next 4 years will be especially difficult economywise and geopolitically and it would be fairer to let a Rep Pres swallow the whole mess! As I said earlier, BushCo will move on to Carlyle and not be held acountable for the unbelievable mess they left to the American people and to the world!

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  146. brooklynjon
    July 26, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Mark,

    Agree with your comments about American use of energy and borrowed money. But irresponsible use of energy and money is not exclusive to either party. It is not clear that Obama will cause the USA to borrow less from abroad than McCain. In fact, I think it likely that the opposite is true.

    bj

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  147. tedders
    July 26, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    “(USA) Using energy in all forms 3 to 4 times as much as the avarage OECD country?”

    Your fuzzy math may confuse most liberals but not me.

    Actually the US gets much much better GDP/gallon of oil (yea, I made that up but you get the point) than any other country in the world.

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/350816052_0a392a0d28_o.jpg

    The following compare US states to OECD country income levels:

    http://www.demographia.com/db-gdp-gsp1998.htm

    We do use three to four times as much energy as the average OECD country. We (USA) rank last in paid vacations for workers, we rank next to last on personal taxation just above South Korea! We also have from five to one hundred times the GDP of any other single OECD country. Russia as a sovereign nation only has the GDP of New York state alone! (no doubt in part to brooklynnjons help!!) Your Euroweenie, “hey your getting more ice cream than me”, example doesn’t really pan out to a real economist. If you are the worlds leading economic driving force, and the USA is just that, don’t compare our consumption with Britain, Germany or France. Let me say here that I dearly love Europe and all of the peoples there, I’d live move there in a minute and raise my family if there was the economic opportunities that are here, there aren’t. No doubt that’s why your not there also. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying everything is “hunky dory” here, especially with the debt facts that you mentioned, those are truly serious and disturbing. We could and are, thanks to $4.00/gallon gas, changing our wasteful driving habits. Hopefully more economic restraint in in the future but Obama won’t be the one to instigate it. He wants the Cuban/European model which I think has been proven to have failed. Who do you think protected Europe and Asia from the Communist threat for 60+ years? Why was that? Here’s a clue, they couldn’t afford their own defense, at least a real defense that would protect themselves. That threat is over now, new threats are raising their ugly heads, Obama isn’t up to the job, never has been, never will be.

    Obama is a novice, Carter will seem like Reagan if he gets elected. If he does get elected (and that’s a mighty big “IF”) I’ll put all my money on a single term ending in disaster scenario. You seem to fall into the “huffington post follower” mentality of “Bush is so stupid”. I think it’s blinding you from seeing that the US isn’t the monster of the world. In fact, I think it likely that the opposite is true.

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  148. Mark
    July 27, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    tedders and co.

    yes, just continue to believe in your own fairy tales… and continue dreaming… get the facts first please before you start opening your mouth and continue telling b.s.!

    Here the link onto the annual report of the International Energy Agency IEA, Paris a sub-organisation of the OECD.
    The report confirms my previous posts that the US uses 3 -4 times the average OECD country energies!

    http://www.iea.org/textbase/nppdf/free/2007/key_stats_2007.pdf

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  149. tedders
    July 27, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    “The report confirms my previous posts that the US uses 3 -4 times the average OECD country energies!’

    I think you might need to RE read my response Mark.
    The very first sentence in the main body was:

    We do use three to four times as much energy as the average OECD country.

    As far as fairy tales I could never compete with someone from the very land of the brothers Grimm! :)

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  150. tedders
    July 28, 2008 at 3:40 am

    The total amount of energy used in the USA per dollar of gross national product (GNP), as measured in 1982 dollars, dropped from 27,100 BTUs in 1970 to 19,600 BTUs by 1990. Total energy use actually declined in the US during the early 1980s, and by 1985 the USA as a whole was 25% more energy efficient and 32% more oil efficient than it had been in 1973. Japan became 33% more energy efficient and 51% more oil efficient over the same twelve-year period. Starting in 1986, decreasing fuel prices led to a lower domestic interest in energy efficiency, and overall energy use went up again. However, the steady increase in real energy prices since the beginning of the twenty-first century has re-ignited interest in efficiency and conservation.

    From: http://www.esterrepublic.com/Archives/byanity10.html

    Below is a list of countries and their individual energy intensity usage, this is a much better way of measuring a nations so called overall energy efficiency. Use the (sort by) button next to the [toe/ 1M dollars] to see the list from most efficient to least. What’s up with the Democratic Republic of the Congo!?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_intensity

    They never show you these numbers at your weekly “We hate America” discussion group, do they? Let me reiterate one last time, I agree that the US uses 3 to 4 times the average OECD country energies. What you are failing to or intentionally ignoring is the fact that the US produces many times more GNP per capita than the average OECD country by a factor larger than 3 or 4.

    Canada, Trinidad and Tobago, Kuwait, Netherlands Antilles, Luxembourg, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Iceland and Qatar all use more energy per person than the US.

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  151. Mark
    July 28, 2008 at 10:48 am

    @ tedders and co.

    I hope we all agree that the US should reduce its dependency on foreign oil and gas and reduce CO2 emissions th help combat global warming.

    BushCo has stupidly thrown the Kyoto protocol in the dustbin… so nothing has happened under the libertarian Carlyle clan…as we all know

    paragraph 7 of the International Energy Agency annual report 2007 gives you all the relevant figures. For fairness purpose I suggest you compare the US figures with those of the western industrialized countries. Comparisons with the worst emerging market economies do not help.

    There is a per capita indice in the report which shows you the use of CO2 to produce the GDP: CO2/GDP(PPP)

    USA 0.53
    G7:
    Germany 0.37
    France 0.23
    UK 0.31
    Italy 0.30
    Japan 0.35
    Canada 0.55

    Switzerland and Sweden are the best worldwide at 0.19 !

    So the CO2 emission in the US is still more than 100% above the G7 average to produce the effective $ GDP! (except Canada)

    These numbers do not reflect other energy sources, like electricity, gas etc.

    The US uses 4046.6 (Thw) of electricity annually, this represents 24,2% of the annual global electricity production of 16695 (Thw)!

    Do you want to go on like this?!

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  152. tedders
    July 28, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    “Do you want to go on like this?!”

    Absolutely!

    I’ll show you why point for point your falling for the uber liberal medias crumbling account of why America is, “a big stupid puppy”.

    The first thing is to cure you of the false notion that your messiah Al Gore put in your head about man made global warming, it’s a myth. Worse than that it’s a political agenda with absolutely NO basis in science, reality or fact. The carbon dioxide credit scheme is a scam par excellence, second to no other robbery in the history of the world.

    It’s started to get a bit confrontational on both sides here, I’d like to propose we tone down the innuendo, piousness, bravado and concentrate on reality and scientific evidence. I mean that for myself as well as you.

    “I hope we all agree that the US should reduce its dependency on foreign oil and gas.”

    I tried to make it clear earlier that I agree with you on the majority of your statements. We are much too dependent on fossil fuels from foreign sources. Also the financial health of the US is in my opinion at a historical low. I have been predicting a major correction in the US economy for over two years now. What has surprised me the most are the number of arrows the US fed has come up with in it’s quiver to patch all of the horrible decisions it’s made in the past ten or so years. I’ve got to give them credit for putting off, what would ultimately be a beneficial market correction. But I feel they’re merely delaying less catastrophic correction by putting it off until it will be a huge dam burst that will take years to recover from instead of months had they just let the correction take place naturally.

    I’ve got to get to work this morning, I’ll get back to you later on today. Have a great Monday!!

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  153. brooklynjon
    July 28, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    I agree that the US should reduce it’s fossil fuel consumption.

    I also believe that the theory of global warming due to anthropogenic CO2 release is likely incorrect. At least, it is unsupported by the current evidence.

    And I say that as a published scientist (who knows about the ways of peer-review), as a former Chemical Engineer who has absolutely no ties to industry whatsoever, and as a registered Democrat with no particular love for the Bush administration

    bj.

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  154. Mark
    July 29, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I’m European and a liberal economist and retired banker. But still wanting to believe and pretend that there is no correlation between CO2 emission and global warming is just plain stupid and in a way typical american thinking. It reminds me of the fundamentalist right who wants us make believe that the Darwin theory is wrong and blasphemic and mankind has been created by god!? yeaahh!

    There is a global consensus on Climate change and the reasons for global warming layed down in the United Nations Convention for Climate Change. Here you got all the evidence:

    http://unfccc.int/2860.php

    It is also clear that climate change provoked by nature itself is at least as important as the impact by CO2 emission.

    My reasoning for reducing dependency on fossil fuels is not politically green fundamentalist driven, no it has to do with sound economical reasons. The countries who will be leading in reducing dependency will be more competitive in the future and will have a technological edge. The EU wants to reduce CO2 Emissions by 20% until 2020 compared to 1990. BushCo wants to do nothing…!

    McSame’s answer to the energy crisis is to subsidise and promote offshore drilling on your own territories and build 50 – 100 nuclear power plants. Yeah! sure thats the way to economical downfall and disappearence of the US car manufacturing industries and many more!

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  155. Mark
    July 29, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Mc Cain will fail big! I hope he gets in and has to eat all the shit BushCo/Carlyle left you! The US will be a third world country again in a generation or less, that is absolutely clear to me!

    The Asians will own the damn place and tell you what you have to do. You better learn Chinese quickly to get at least a supervisor job in one of the t-shirt factories in Alabama. Still better than to work for $ 1.20 hr as a common laboror. That’ll be your future believe it or not!

    The US is bankrupt in every way of the word. Not just financially and economically also morally and ethically! Thats it then guys. Let the GOP win and eat the whole shit. In 4 years you will be screaming on your knees for a leader like Obama!!!

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  156. brooklynjon
    July 29, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Mark,

    Hold on, Cowboy. The link between CO2 and atmospheric warming bas based on retrospective data, and retrospective data can not, by there very nature, demonstrate the direction of causality. CO2 can cause warming. Or warming can cause CO2. Or Something else can cause both warming and elevations in CO2. An honest scientist would tell you that you cannot tell which is true from the data. You don’t need to be a “climatologist”. You have to be an honest scientist without a political agenda.

    Accurate climate data are scarce, and inaccurate data are used all the time. The thermometer, for instance, for Rochester New York is located directly above the steam vent in the airport. Errors like these are the norm rather than the exception. Take faulty data, and plug it into a perfect simulation (which, by the way, doesn’t exist) and you get a faulty result. Garbage in, garbage out.

    And, media hysteria to the contrary, the evidence for global warming is just not there. Melting ice in the northern hemishere is more than offset by expansion of the ice pack in the southern. Magma flows have changed direction (no doubt the fault of President Bush) resulting in an increase in Northern Hemispheric heating (whiere, due to the greater land mass, most of the temperature sensors are), and a decrease in Southern Hemisphere heating.

    The warmest decade on record? The 1930′s

    The Temperature trend since 2000? Steadily downward.

    Need I go on?

    Seriously, dude, take one tenth of the skepticism you harbor toward the United States and apply it to the Global Warming sham. If you don’t know where to begin, I can refer you to source data, analysis, etc.

    And leave out the stupid ad hominem attacks. Please.

    bj

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  157. brooklynjon
    July 29, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    And Mark, like I said, a democrat, voted against Bush, degrees in scientific disciplines from Princeton and Harvard, and owe NOTHING to industry. Stop generalizing, and open your mind and your eyes.

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  158. tedders
    July 29, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Marks last post shows he’s not willing to let facts get in the way of his opinion.

    “But still wanting to believe and pretend that there is no correlation between CO2 emission and global warming is just plain stupid and in a way typical american thinking.”

    Mark, You’re not a scientist or a quantitative thinker, if you want to believe Al Gore, a journalism major, go ahead, tear it up. You’d best let scientist do the science and be skeptical when politicians jump into scientific subjects.

    ” BushCo/Carlyle”

    Is enough to show he has a media driven weltanschuang.

    “The US is bankrupt in every way of the word. Not just financially and economically also morally and ethically! Thats it then guys. Let the GOP win and eat the whole shit. In 4 years you will be screaming on your knees for a leader like Obama!!!”

    Morally and ethically! All I can do is grin at this point!! Marks in for a little letdown!

    Boy, he really told us didn’t he!! :) I should have known something was up when he said he was a, “liberal economist”!! I always thought that an economist was, well… an economist! Turns out Mark is a “heterodox,” “progressive,” “feminist,” “institutionalist,” “post-Keynesian,” “Marxist,” “social economists,” or “ecological economists.” Or in layman’s terms, Mark is a communist!

    http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2004/1104dollar.html

    How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
    Ronald Reagan

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  159. Mark
    July 29, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Der Gschider git nah der Tümmer blibt stah!

    Mit däne Red Neck Arschlöcher z’diskutiere isch würklech reini Zytverschwändig!!!

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  160. tedders
    July 29, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    All I got was, “Red Neck”! :)

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  161. brooklynjon
    July 29, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    tedders,

    changing languages is something that people winning arguments rarely do.
    And the resort to name calling is a dead giveaway.

    bj

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  162. tedders
    July 29, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    I think it may translates into: Runaway, runaway, the red necks are kicking my ass with science and other things I never thought of before!!! LOL

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  163. brooklynjon
    July 30, 2008 at 12:10 am

    tedders,

    You and i disagree with someone who speaks German!

    Quick, get the truck, I’ll get the guns for the rack, and some best of Nascar tapes. We’ll show him!

    bj

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  164. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Don’t forget the General Lee and Daisy!! :)

    I already tried a German translator, didn’t work. I think it’s Luxembourgeois? Luxemburger? I’ve got my European correspondent working on it!! LOL

    Here’s a bit more insight on why Mark loves Obama:

    The wife who could be first lady says, “We have lost the understanding that in a democracy, we have a mutual obligation to one another — that we cannot measure the greatness of our society by the strongest and richest of us, but we have to measure our greatness by the least of these. That we have to compromise and sacrifice for one another in order to get things done. That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation. “

    - Michelle Obama

    “We should not say that one man’s hour is worth another man’s hour, but rather that one man during an hour is worth just as much as another man during an hour. Time is everything, man is nothing: he is at the most time’s carcass. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

    - Karl Marx

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  165. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 12:20 am

    “Lëtzebuergesch”! :)

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  166. srPzzz
    July 30, 2008 at 5:22 am

    Dang, I thought I found a pro-American website and then I find all these nonAmerican comments bashing Americans as usual. Boring after all these years. I wish the world would find a new hobby so there could be a real discussion.

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  167. lobsang
    July 30, 2008 at 10:22 am

    According to the newest poll: 83% of Americans are totally dissatisfied with the Bush presidency! So the few nationalistic spam bloggers here must definetely belong to the 17% approval morons!

    Almost as weird and repulsive as the ultra nationalists screaming for Karadzic in Belgrade!

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  168. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    “Almost as weird and repulsive as the ultra nationalists screaming for Karadzic in Belgrade!”

    Yeah, right, nice try! Liberal thinkers seldom let facts get in the way of their comments.

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  169. freudian
    July 30, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    …phhh! another White Trash Blog..!

    …tedders and co. go back to your trailer park and fuck your sister! just pathetic to harrass decent people here with your inzestuous stupidity!!!

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  170. brooklynjon
    July 30, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    “tedders and co. go back to your trailer park and fuck your sister! ”

    Well, there you have it, folks. Rhetoric so clever, so compelling, and so convincing, that there can be no rebuttal. I’m off to France so I can sit at a cafe on the Left Bank and be reprogrammed.

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  171. freudian
    July 30, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    yeah bj, that’s where the White Trash goes at this time of the year! A cheap discount fare and a cheap hotel. Paris is empty at this time of the year and everything is closed down. Parisiens stay at the Côte d’Azur. People who can afford to travel go there except in July/August!

    So pathetic and cheap! Pathetic Blog here!

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  172. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    “Pathetic Blog here!”

    Then take your potty mouth with you when you leave.

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  173. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    “People who can afford to travel go there except in July/August!”

    No, not really, the cheapest airfares for Paris are in November through January when I usually go.

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  174. brooklynjon
    July 30, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    tedders,

    What you crazy? No Nascar in Paris. Why bother?

    Me just stay home and roast hot dogs on my radiator.

    bj

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  175. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Me just stay home and roast hot dogs on my radiator.

    With kraft mac & cheese, right?
    ;)

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  176. simone
    July 30, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    oui, restez où vous êtes, bande de connards!

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  177. tedders
    July 30, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    yes, remain where you are, band of jerks!

    Je pense que vous devez avoir voulu dire. oui, restent où vous êtes, la bande des frères !

    Pas, allez maintenant loin ou je taunt vous une deuxième fois.

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  178. brooklynjon
    July 31, 2008 at 2:40 am

    All that and Franzy too! No wonder Twosret likes you so much!

    bj

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  179. tedders
    July 31, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Yeah, I wish! It’s called babelfish!! :)

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  180. simone
    July 31, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Aucune idée du Français ces idiots! Il valait mieux de se taire que de parler de la merde! Qoui de neuf? non, pas du toût! c’ est du courant normal, les gringos se comportant comme des éléphants au magazin de porzellaine!

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  181. tedders
    July 31, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    simone says: No idea of the French these idiots! It was to be better keep silent that of speaking about the shit! Qoui of nine? not, at all! it is the current normal one, the gringos behaving like elephants with the magazin of porzellaine!

    What wit and style! Truly amazing!

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  182. brooklynjon
    August 1, 2008 at 5:32 am

    Elephants…. Hmmm. Yet I can operate a keyboard and a mouse.

    Although, truth be told, I HAVE been craving peanuts lately.

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  183. freudian
    August 1, 2008 at 8:25 am

    Half of the translation is wrong and doesnt make sense! Shows the education (what is this?) level of white trash bloggers: none! Shows the red neck approach to the world: 96% of the world has to tick like us or we’re gonna kick their asses and move them to Guantanamo for waterboarding till they sing “the land of the free” aloud!!!

    The world will definetely hit back and let you drown in your own shit of debt, utter stupidity, junk, scam and spam!

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  184. brooklynjon
    August 1, 2008 at 9:45 am

    that’s it, tedders. It’s time for us to talk to each other in differential equations, so we can impress the eurotrash. And if they don’t like it, they can eat my natural log.

    bj

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  185. tedders
    August 1, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    But bj, they can’t understand or comprehend scientific thought or analysis. That would be rude to change the language of communication to try and get an upperhand on the discussion! They also wouldn’t know when we were making fun of their imbecilic notions of how the world operates, that wouldn’t be near as fun, now would it? :)

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  186. brooklynjon
    August 3, 2008 at 12:36 am

    truth be told, educating non-scientists in the ways of science is a source of great exasperation for me. Most non-scientists don’t understand why the truth isn’t just the outcome of a vote by the experts. After all, it is at the Academy Awards.

    And they don’t understand that, even though one is not a “climate scientist”, one can still have something to say about whether the data support the conclusion, or whether the data are of good quality, etc. One merely has to know about data collection and analysis.

    Grrrr!

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  187. tedders
    August 3, 2008 at 3:47 am

    “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
    Adolf Hitler

    Al Gore probably doesn’t know or won’t admit hat he’s following in a pattern of deception exploited long before he and his internet came along. The general public seems all to easily convinced of Al’s theories of man made global warming. If they’re stupid enough to believe a journalism major knows how to interpret such a huge and complex system as world heating, cooling and weather patterns, good luck to them with that. It seems to me that they aren’t going to start listening to the truth or real science any time soon.

    What most non scientific people don’t understand is empirical method. Empirical method is generally taken to mean the collection of data on which to base a theory or derive a conclusion in science. It is part of the scientific method, but is often mistakenly assumed to be synonymous with the experimental method.

    Scientific method refers to the body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. It is based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. Scientific proof is what’s needed to prove a phenomena such as anthropogenic global warming, at present there is no scientific proof to support the theory. People that say there is have an agenda they’re pushing not scientific facts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

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  188. brooklynjon
    August 3, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    tedders,

    I agree with you 100%.

    We’re seeing a hysterical push to radically alter the world economy based on the selective used of data, a misunderstanding of the value of retrospective data, and an inability to differentiate between signal and noise. The assumption that history began on the day you were born is also a big factor. And the excessive valuation of causes you can readily see, and the undervaluation of causes you cannot readily see, plays a big role.

    It is a witches brew of unscientific, faulty observations that are all shoved into a “computer simulation” in the hope that whatever comes out will be indisputable. And it is bizarrely the same people that call me a crank for being a skeptic, who also disbelieve everything else, from the utility of vaccines, to the perpetrators of 9/11, to the veracity of a Lunar landing, to the natural introduction of viruses into the human population from time to time. Only antrhopogenic global warming can be trusted. Everything else is some sort of bizarre conspiracy. How odd! If you’re going to be a doubter, at least doubt everything.

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  189. tedders
    August 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    “Everything else is some sort of bizarre conspiracy. How odd! If you’re going to be a doubter, at least doubt everything.”

    That’s the problem with lemmings, there is no consistency to their thought process. Whatever is in front of them that sounds logical (usually coming from the main stream media that’s desperately trying to up it’s ratings) is the truth de jour.

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  190. ReaganRanger
    October 8, 2008 at 7:18 am

    Wow! I just happened upon this blog today by chance while searching for policy comparisons between the two candidates, and I’ve got to say, Mr. SM here is a man (?) after my own heart. Truly, an enlightened individual with a tasteless yet inticing sense of humor. Keep it up!

    Oh, and Obama will win, and he will let the economy slip through his fingers, tryinig to please everybody at once, all the while attempting to balance keeping good relations with the Islamic nations WITH weening us off of foreign oil, keeping the troops silent in the Middle East (while at the same time keeping them in place), and reassuring the rest of the world that we’ll be just just dandy……… “just… as long… as… I.. can… get … this stupid… Universal Healthcare system to work….. bah! gimme a sec, will yah?!”

    peace and too bad 90% of the US citizenship is too politically ignorant to understand that Ron Paul would have been the best thing for us…

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  191. Princess
    November 10, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    I read the above post. All i can say is bravo. This was well put. Obama is a man who received a good educated. But does not know his but from his head. He is so arrogant it is sickening. His wife is racist and on the nutty side. We have ushered in a group of militants. I never voted the man. I definitely am not stupid. When he won, you could see fear in his face. Like “what the hell have I got myself into.” People say he is back paddling on promises. He never intended to keep any of his promises. The man brainwash people with slick talk. The Obama’s will bring down America with their ignorant views. Pray and keep up-to-date on politics.

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  192. WHOSYERDADDY
    November 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Obama will fail miserably nothing will change for the better. i`ve even heard of others saying he is the anti-christ. all of these morons say what you want to hear so as to get elected then all their promises go down the shitter. god help us all.

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  193. Mary
    November 15, 2008 at 2:28 am

    Very good post

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  194. Baby Bath Thermometer
    April 7, 2010 at 2:59 am

    The Obama’s will bring down America with their ignorant views. I loved your post

    Reply

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