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Monday, 7 Jul 2008
First of all, before we get into this, let me say how happy I am with the selection of both Obama and McCain as the presumptive nominees of the republican and the democratic parties, and that's not just because I Predicted they would be it when Clinton was the lock-in nominee and McCain was lagging behind all of his compatriots. I am happy because both men are not the conventional nominees of their parties, and they are more interested in creating common ground with the other side's voter bloc than they are in pandering to their base. Ok, now that we got that out of the way, let's actually examine them a little bit.
In my house , right now, I have the electoral programs for both Obama and McCain, and reading them has provided me with hours of constant amusement. McCain's program is under the impression that the world is great and everything is fine and dandy, and all we really have to do is to bomb a couple more areas in the world (a bomb here, a couple there) and all will be well with the world again. I personally love it, but that's because I am Pro-Death and would welcome anything that would bring the world's population down a notch, but I doubt the rest of you exactly share my sentiment, so, ehh, yeah, bad electoral program, bad! Obama's on the other hand, well, it kinda reads like someone's sophomore year college term paper on "the joys of socialism". It's nice, it's sweet, it's humane, it's unrealistic bullshit. Oh, and if you would like to challenge that world view, please inform me how this man intends to both balance the budget ( with its huge deficit) and implement Universal Healthcare (which any idiot would tell you wouldn't exactly be..ehh..cheap). Or, if you are suffering from the shitty deal you got from your healthcare provider and you don't care how this gets financed, explain to me again how he will "convince" the Businesses that left the US for China or India to come back to the US, where they will have to pay both higher taxes AND labor costs, plus whatever new taxes he intends to raise to finance your healthcare. Ok, now back to McCain for a second.
Now, a lot of people will think this is a post to make McCain look good on the expense of Obama, but unfortunately, I am going to have to disappoint those idiots this time as well. McCain, whom I love and respect and adore and [add verbs that signify liking someone, ad infinitum] is not going to win. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. He is not going to win because the Party really isn't backing him- if they did they might have advised him to get something resembling an economic plan. Nope, the republicans are doing the same thing the democrats did in 2004 on for, just putting on a good show. Nothing is in the favor of this man: the base hates him cause he is secular, his views on the war are incredibly unpopular with middle- America right now, he has a wife whose history- once put out on display in the general election- will make Michelle Obama look like the Saint she ain't (For those of you who don't know, Cindy kinda started an Charity Organization to provide drugs for African children, and then was caught stealing from those drugs for her personal use), and last, but not least, the age thing. Not to mention, with absolute democratic majorities in both the house and senate, he would be a lame-duck President from day one, and nothing would ever get done. I like McCain, and would've rather seen him win in 2000 than Bush, but he is not going to win this one either. So now, we have to prepare ourselves to the future monumental failure of the Obama Presidency, no? Oh wait, you don't agree, do you? Well, that's what the post title was all about. Ok, fine, I guess I am going to have to go into detail to why exactly I believe that Obama will fail.
You see, if you ask any Obama supporter, they will tell you that they are supporting the man because he gives them hope. Now, Oscar Wilde once said that the basis of all hope is fear, and I intend to agree with Wilde on that one. So what exactly are the Obama supporters afraid of? Well, it's really simple, after 8 years of Bush, and of having the government repeatedly inform them that they are living in a threatening world that doesn't like them (which, by the way, is true, and it disliked them during Clinton's presidency too I may add) and that they are going to have to hunker down, get though and prepare to fight this for the long haul, they are afraid that this is really the way the world is. Enter Obama, who tells them in all kinds of inspiring fashion that this isn't necessarily true, that the world isn't really dangerous and that all we need to do is to talk to one another, and then all will be well in the world and we will all sing Kumbaya together. So, desperate and clinging to anything, they believe him, because the alternative is so scary, so stressful and depressing, that they may have to up their Zoloft dosage , and anti-depressants are really expensive nowadays.
Not to mention, Americans really want the world to like them, which is a silly desire shared by no other nation on earth. You don't see the Russians worrying about the world liking them, or the Chinese. Ok, you want a democracy? How about the French? Do you see the French worrying about whether or not the world likes them? Do you know of any other nation in the world who actually has this stupid girl-with-low-self-esteem-in- junior-high fixation? Hell, even the Israelis, arguably the current most hated country in the world (and who would like a nation of militaristic Jews who refuse to be wiped out? Those Damn Jooz!), are not as fixated on getting the world to like them the way the Americans do, because most of them have resigned themselves that the world really never will like them. So yeah, the Americans stand alone when it comes to that silly desire, and they have constructed a notion why the world dislikes them: It's because the world thinks that they are a racist nation that is also prejudiced against Islam. So, in order to remedy that, they vote and nominate a Black man with an arab middle-name who comes from a Muslim Background, as if saying, "Here! This is how far we all willing to go. Do you like us now?"
And the world will answer: Ehh, no, not really!
There are those who will argue with this, citing great support for Obama all over Europe and the world. True, but that's because he is the Anti-Bush, an articulate black man who says he doesn't want war. The world would love fuckin Gary Coleman if he was the person who said this after 8 years of Bush. Plus, the world is excited for the Obama presidency because they view it as some sort of novelty, the black man who became President after all of the country's history of slavery. Americans forget that thanks to their endless stream of movies and TV shows that have addressed the history and extent of racism in the US, we all know the backstory and the struggles and Rosa Parks and Malcom X and MLK and all of this fun stuff. So, really, it's like watching a 250 year old movie where one character keeps getting screwed over and finally, through a lot of fighting, becomes President. Oh Happy Ending. We love Happy endings. What we didn't wrap our head around yet is that this isn't a movie. There is no Fade to Black after Obama takes office. He actually becomes the President and executer of policies. He will become a symbol of the country people love to hate, and this won't exactly end because he is a smooth talking good looking black guy. It's a ncie fantasy, but let's get real here. There are too many people who have vested interest in hating the US and always will hate it, no matter who the fuck runs it. Now let's examine this notion a little.
Unarguably , Obama's number one foreign policy objective is to get things right with the arab and muslim world. And that's when you are going to watch the best circus in the world, because no a single leader, in the arab or the muslim world, really wants to get right with the US. Hell, our rulers have justified their entire existence in power by positioning themselves as opposed to America . They continue , in their state-sponsored media, to point fingers at the US and go " See, those bloodthirsty Americans. They will kill you all, rape all of your women and drink the blood of your babies, if we are not here to protect you. So eat shit and shut up!", and If you think I am exaggerating please check Egypt, Syria, Iran, Yemen, etc.. etc.. Those people have built their entire rule on that whole notion, you think they are going to give that up because the silly Americans voted for a 40-something inexperienced Black dude? Get real! And in terms of the arab and muslim street, let's not forget that their number one issue has always been Israel. Now, do you think Obama will go against Israel, after watching him kissing for hours AIPAC ass? Ha. So yeah, that will be a disappointment also. Not to mention that Obama won't withdraw from Iraq. He won't. He can't. At best he will do a partial withdrawal, while leaving a good chunk of US soldiers there. But bring all the troops home? Not gonna happen. And that's what the arab and muslim street wants, no? Let's not even contemplate the notion for a second that he is serious about going after Pakistan, like he said over and over again. Yeah, the Obama foreign policy will be- in the words of the great Borat- GREAT SUCCESS! I am sure.
Oh, and I am sure that once he gets elected that the Islamists will warm up to him immediately. You know, because there is nothing that Islamists like more than a former born- muslim who chose, by his own accord, to become a Christian and an active one at that. Yeah, I am sure they will be very impressed, and quit fighting the US immediately. After all, he said that he intends to deliver a speech from a muslim nation in his first 100 days of office. Yeah, that kind of pandering really calms islamists down, especially coming from apostates. And they will surely respect him if he withdraws partially from Iraq, and not mistake it as a sign of weakness or that they are winning or anything. And since we are on the topic, can you imagine what will happen if a terrorist attack took place during the Obama Presidency, after he does all of this? Can you imagine how America will feel, when they realize that even after they voted for the Blackman with Arab middle name and Muslim background who gave a speech during his first 100 days in a muslim nation, that the world still hates them and that Islamists still want to kill them? Talk about a rude awakening. And can you imagine if they do demand a response from Obama, and Obama decides to take off the Dove hat and put the Hawk one on? Do I have to remind you how things went the last time a Dove tried to be a Hawk? Olmert and Peretz (who both, may I remind you , ran on the platform of withdrawing from the Westbank) during the Lebanon war, anyone? Ok, how about Carter and the rescue mission in Iran? How about Clinton in Somalia? We getting the picture? Should be a fantastic fun time for everyone involved.
But let's say you are the kind of American who doesn't care about all that, like this silly American chic I met here a week ago, who told me that "the basis of hope is hope" and "I really don't care if your people like us, I just want to be proud of my country again!". Ok, fair enough. So one would assume you are supporting Obama for domestic policy reasons. That you believe that he will clean Washington from the Special Interests and the lobbying and all that Jazz he has been talking about, and implements his "Socialism is fun" electoral program, aided surely, by the fact that the House and the Senate looks like it will tilt in favor of the democrats again this year, finally giving them full majority in both the house and Senate. I am sure he will be able to cut out the special interests and implement his policies in a Jiffy, right? Ehh, nope. Because even if he is not beholden to special interests- which I am not sure is exactly true-every single politician in the House and the Senate is, and they kinda like their seats. Not to mention, about half of the democrats who won in 2006 were Pro-War, Pro-Guns, Anti-Abortion democrats- i.e. confused republicans- who will undoubtedly, given how they are now fully in power, start fighting amongst themselves in earnest, the way the democrats always do. And if you don't believe me, check 1992, the first Clinton Presidential term. It's the Same shit. Charismatic unlikely democrat in the white house after 12 years of republican rule, bridled with unrealistic expectations of a starved political base who somehow expected him to miraculously solve all of their problems in the first 100 days, and had the majorities in the House and the Senate to pull it off. But he didn't. He couldn't. The Democrats were too busy fighting amongst themselves, and he was too busy trying to be a centrist and work with an institution that wouldn't work and all the hopes, dreams and expectations evaporated by the end of his first year in office. But yeah, I am sure the Obama first term will be different, because, like, he is Black. Oh, and a Washington outsider. Yes, that's the kind of person who can get things done in Congress, no doubt! But I digress, when I think of Obama, I don't think of Clinton. At the end of the day, everyone knew that Clinton would play Ball and isn't exactly driven by his own ideological view and belief in his own goodness. Nahh, when I think Obama, one name really comes to mind: Carter!
Obama is the second coming of Carter, there is no doubt about it. From the way he took over the party, to the election against an uncharismatic standard-bearer opponent in the elections, to his belief that America is bad, and it's all America's fault anyway, and that all that is necessary to make everything work is appeasement and humility, and oh, let's try to fix are suffering economy by implementing socialist ideas. So yeah, if you are reading this and you remember those days, then please brace yourself, because it's gonna suck again for the next four years. But don't fret, there is a bright side to this, because remember, after Carter came Reagan. And maybe that's what America needs right now. To experiment with Obama to see if there is any truth to his fiction. If there is, sweet, I am not gonna hate, but there likely isn't, and that will be the necessary wake-up call that half of the US have been needing for the past 4 years. That's what it's gonna take: a colossal presidential failure of the size of Carter (whose approval ratings, by the way, make Bush's look really high, believe it or not), to get the US back into thinking about how to deal with their problems, instead of pretending they don't exist.
That being said, I will feel bad for Obama when this eventually happens though, because unlike every other President before him, Obama isn't just running as himself, he is running as the Black Candidate, so when he fails, it's not just him that will be looked upon as a failure, but his race with him. The nice white people of America will congratulate themselves when he is elected for no longer being a racist nation (they did elect a black man after all) and when he fails they probably wouldn't run another Black candidate for President for another 30 years or so. Not to mention, after Obama, being a black candidate won't be a big deal anymore. The novelty would've worn off, and the candidates will be assessed based on their experience and their plans, instead of just being an inspiring notion whose time has come as a Black Man for President of the USA. I hope this wouldn't be the case, but, ehh, I doubt it!
July 7th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Nice predictions but please try and be more consistent and get your facts a little straighter so you don’t end up failing like you claim Obama will.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:37 am
The type of president America needs - in my humble opinion - is someone like George Bush Sr. When there was a threat that needed addressing, he had enough credibility to build a consensus that led to a lot of countries bearing the cost and burden of the first Gulf War with the US.
When you alienate the whole world, you’re stuck on your own. Reality is - America is just not capable - economically or militarily - of sustaining an infinite number of long-term entanglements on its own. No one country is. Plus it is kind of unfair to yourself given that you are fighting against a universal threat.
Those who tell Americans they don’t need the rest of the world lie to them. Just like those who tell them they can ever be universally liked do.
The worst foreign politician ever is not someone who fails to get others to do what is in his interest, it is someone who fails to get others to do what is in THEIR own interests just to spite him. And that is where Reagan and Bush Senior succeeded while Dubya failed.
The marching, death-to-america-chanting, flag-burners will always be around. And there will always be dictatorships that need to transfer their people’s rage outwards.
America doesn’t need a leader who will win them a popularity contest. That’s not what geopolitics is about.
No, Americans need leaders who can build and lead alliances and coalitions like during the Cold War and during the first Gulf War.
They also need to get off fossil fuels.
These 2 factors alone would boost the economy of the US, and through it the world economy.
I don’t know if Obama or McCain can achieve this better. Haven’t followed closely enough.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Isn’t obvious that the reason for Obama’s failure is/will be the previous policies and laws put into place by Bush and his band of evil Republicans?
The beauty of the Obama Idea, like every other Leftist campaign, is that you get to blame everybody else for your failures.
Life must be incredibly empty for these people who never learn from their experience. It must be like living in a nightmare that endlessly repeats .
July 7th, 2008 at 10:44 am
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July 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
But let’s say you are the kind of American who doesn’t care about all that, like this silly American chic I met here a week ago, who told me that “the basis of hope is hope” and “I really don’t care if your people like us, I just want to be proud of my country again!”.
That’s it, right there. She wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is AMERICAN and have everyone swarm around her and tell her how great she is. For being AMERICAN. It isn’t about you. It isn’t about America. It’s about HER. And her ego.
This whole “internationalist’ mind-fuck seems to have started during the Clinton Administration. And it seems to have only taken hold in people who weer impressionable teenagers during those years. They are America’s young adults, today. I was a young adult in the early 1980s when millions of Europeans came out to protest Ronald Reagan and the “arms race” every few days, seemed like, and it was all over the news. I don’t recall anyone ever whining about how much the rest of the world hated us, back then. Or anyone talking about how much US “prestige” had fallen. And I have a pretty good memory!
Good post, sm. I bet you turn out to be right, more or less.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:51 am
PS-Hi LouLou!
July 7th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Hi Craig,
the only people in the world who are even less popular than Americans are Muslims. And I get impatient with other Muslims when they whine about Islamophobia. Not because I think it’s a good thing.
Because I think it’s the least of our problems, really. Sure, it’s upsetting. I started following the American elections online a bit during the primaries then things got to the point where people were calling Obama a Muslim like it was a dirty word. And at that point, I stopped following.
The fact is very often, when you have problems with others, you have two options:
1 - Completely ignore it and continue doing what you’re doing - which doesn’t work because like it or not, we live in one planet and the world is interdependent in too many ways to count.
2 - Recognize that you really do have problems and take charge and try to fix them. The image issue then becomes secondary because you accept that you will look better when you ARE better.
3 - Feel like a victim, whine and hate everyone else back - which has the same cons as number one except worse.
The way I see it now, Muslims are going for no.3 and Americans are going for no.1.
I’m not saying that Americans have as many problems as we do. For one thing, you guys are a country. You can have a united vision, a national debate about your issues and you can agree on a leadership to implement whatever the national debate decides is best. And when something doesn’t work, you can try something else. You can function as a unit.
What I am saying is that it’s sad to see Americans developing the same us-against-the-world mentality that prevails among Muslims. You are the most powerful, most successful nation in history. You can do better than that.
July 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am
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July 7th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Need to work on your facts. Obama wasn’t born into a Muslim background; he was raised in a secular household. His father had been raised Muslim, but was a “confirmed atheist” by the time he met Obama’s mother. Barack became involved in Christianity because he saw the importance of the church in the Black American community; I suspect he’s not really a believer there either.
And Carter’s approval rating never got as low as Bush Jr’s while he was in office; even at the end of his term it was at 34%, which W. has dropped below during his tenure. The man to beat in this category is Nixon, whose rating was at 24% when he resigned.
July 7th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Marcos, in the view of muslims, it doesn;t matter if the father was an athiest when he me Obama’s mother, he was still muslim. It’s like when you have athiest jews. similar concept. So, as far as muslim are concerned, he was muslim when Obama was born, which makes Obama a muslim as well. He was raised in a secular hosuehold and converted to christianity, for whatever reason, but in muslim eyes he is an apostate, because he chose christianity over Islam!
July 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I agree with this. This is one of many reasons why I am not an Obama supporter. The world will hate us before Bush became President, and they will hate us long after Bush leaves office. Liberals know this but they don’t want to accept it. I prefer to live in reality. Even after all the great things America has done for the world, we are still hated. After all the countries we helped liberate from the oppression of tyranny, we are the bad guys. So be it. And, yet, so many of those people want to come here.
July 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Nice post and I agree with Craig - I bet your predictions are right.
America needs to do what’s best for….AMERICA! The whole, “I want the world to love us again” argument drives me absolutely nuts. What’s good for America is good for the world. All you have to do is check History on that one. There has never been a nation like America in the history of mankind.
Carter in Iran. Clinton in Somalia. Shit like that scares me. America can’t afford to have a wussy for a president during these times, the enemy is ready to pounce regardless of our president’s middle name. Democrats can be president in times of peace…but now would not be a good time.
Maybe Jindal in ‘12 can be America’s new Reagan as I agree that Obama will be the next Carter.
July 7th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
As you said before Sandmonkey, as did you favorite dead comedian. This country was bought and paid for a long time ago by guess who? That’s righ, the guys who are so buddy buddy with Obama right now. Obama is needy and a perfect specimen for them to do all the dirty work. Although not a political whore as Bush is, but none the less he will do as they please.
Secondly, you deleted comments that were here this morning. The one where someone said they specifically remember you saying that it would be Huckabee & Clinton. Not the way you claim. Hence Memryt’s comment which was actually comment no. 3, telling you to get your facts a little straighter.
In the end you are a whore coz you really do care about your image even though you are supposedly anonymous and invisible.
Plus werent you too young to remember Carter, seeing that you werent even born and all?
Obama has never had a Muslim background since he has always been a God fearing Christian just like McCain.
Please stop it already!
Your blog is like a socio pathic zionist BDSM room where people come to lick your ass because they love BDSM Machostic morally subversive pain.
NNight!
July 7th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
“Even after all the great things America has done for the world, we are still hated.”
Nobody likes to be under an obligation to somebody else.
July 7th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
She wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is AMERICAN and have everyone swarm around her and tell her how great she is. For being AMERICAN.
Actually, it’s more likely that she wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is American and have everyone NOT swarm around her and tell her what a shitty, evil imperialist/terrorist/killer/apathetic/fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-insult she is. She probably is simply sick of having to answer questions about the motivations of a president she didn’t vote for, a war she never supported, and a history she can’t do anything about. Or maybe she is just effing sick of Europeans and Arabs, of all people, accusing her of living in the most violent, anti-peace country in the world. Or how the U.S. is somehow the biggest threat to “world peace,” as if this imaginary state of kum-ba-yah global harmony has EVER existed anywhere.
Trust me, I’m no flag waver, but I really think that the assumption that this girl is all about her ego, while understandable, is rather in bad faith. As someone who has experienced this type of thing (no, not the “fair critique of policy,” but real, “yankee terrorist go home to your stupid, pathetic, so-called culture” anti-Americanism), I have to say I sympathize with the sentiment.
July 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Actually, it’s more likely that she wants to be able to go to a foreign country and mention that she is American and have everyone NOT swarm around her and tell her what a shitty, evil imperialist/terrorist/killer/apathetic/fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-insult she is.
If that is how she thinks things are happening, then why is she traveling at all? Is she a masochist? This is a BIG country. We have a lot of opportunity here. There’s absolutely no reason she has to ever leave it, unless she wants to. And if she really perceives the world as being such a hostile place, she wouldn’t. SD, I’m not buying your argument at all.
As someone who has experienced this type of thing (no, not the “fair critique of policy,” but real, “yankee terrorist go home to your stupid, pathetic, so-called culture” anti-Americanism), I have to say I sympathize with the sentiment.
I estimate I visited about 30 countries in the 1980s. The only place I ever experienced anything like that was in Hong Kong, while it was a British colony. And it was at the hands of the British, not the Chinese (who were very friendly). I recommend people do what I did. What until some of your Marine buddies show up and then beat the tar out of them. And then run before the police arrive. Does wonders for world peace and American “prestige” in the international community.
July 7th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
LouLou, I like your summary. I think there are more options than that, though. One option I’d like to see put into effect (for the US) is the one we used to use… simply stop trying to pretend everyone on the planet is our friend, or SHOULD BE our friend. We have enemies. We even have “natural enemies” who will never have a positive attitude about the US, no matter what. We need to accept that. And we also need to recognize the importance of our relationships with those countries that we genuinely do have good relationships with. There are more in that category than most people think. And then we need to start working on some of the “neutral” countries, and there are more of THOSE than most people think as well. The press has painted a very bad picture for us, and American leftists who seem to enjoy talking about how everyone hates us, haven’t helped.
July 7th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Craig,
I won’t say anything more because I don’t want you to get your marine bodies to beat me up. I’m not built for that.
July 7th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
McCain will win…and I think that for many reasons…
Besides that…a nice piece of work SM
July 7th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
NO! bama
July 7th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
“How about the French? Do you see the French worrying about whether or not the world likes them? ”
actually we are very busy with our vacations, and or sport events such as soccer, tour de France, Olympic games… don’t forget the strikes, the surburbs riots, our muslims that always want more of our wellfare….
so ya see, no time to consider if the other nations like us as “natural enemies”
yet, we watch our borders : no integrism is allowed to disturb our idleness
bye bye the Brits, that let escape the jihaders ; better they don’t come over : our anti-terrorist cops have a light hand !
July 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Nice article!
Yet every time i read about the US elections i feel sad because Mike Huckabee didn’t make it. i don’t really care much for him but just imagine PRESIDENT HUKABEES!
Also, when he turns out to be a failure, everybody would start saying the magic word! Fuck-a-bees!
Vague movie reference, i know…
July 7th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Nice observations SM. I guess I must be one of those rare Americans who could care less what other people around the world think of us. In fact I really don’t know many people that do. Maybe that’s just the liberal media being Liberals. We are a great nation and also a nation with many problems. We have good and bad in our society. Don’t like it? KICK ROCKS!!!!
July 7th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Where oh where is our new Reagan?!!
July 7th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
I hate zionist murderers who have accomplished there final head lock on the world and have Nuclear weapons now while starting a war that will never end.
You dumb fucks, never mind Iran, it was a very stupid mistake to give Jews the Bomb. Let’s just hope it is all a bluff and America and Europe are smarter than that.
OBAMA or McCain wont change a God damn thing so fuck em all.
Hoping that Obama will pull a 180 is retarded.
Better chance of dyslexic McCain dropping a terd on hos own house by mistake.
I hate Zionist theives.
Some one send me to Israel already to bite a settlers throat out
July 7th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I am doing my part to make sure that Americans who care about what the rest of the world thinks have a hard time. They need to grow up and my anti-your-country sentiment will help them along. Don’t even try to be a canadian around me. Golden Rule for the win. I plan on treating western europeans and canadians like shit for the rest of my life.
Sandmonkey, Obama won’t fail because he will have at least 25% of the country claiming he is the messiah during his presidency. Hope, change, mend world…
kind of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJrovKgrTw
It’s retarded, but when you step back everything is pretty retarded at this point.
July 7th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
July 7th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
DEAD PALISTINIANS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.
STARVING PALISTINIANS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.
YET YOU BASTARDS HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS WHILE AMERICA PILFERAGES OIL THAT IS NOT THERES AND CONTINUES TO COMMIT RAPE.
WHEN FINALL YOU HAVE A DOVE LIKE OBAMA OR CARTER OR ANY AMERICAN WITH DECENCY YOU MASONIC IMBICILES TALK POLITICS.
GO FUCK YOUR KIDS YOU WEAK HUMAN DEVIANTS.
July 7th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
In the last three years we’ve traveled to Germany, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, Czech Republic, Canada, we’re in south Mexico as I type this. Never once has any one or group of people ever criticized us or our country. We did see an anti American demonstration in the Latin Quarter in Paris but it was sponsored by Hezzbollah and the demonstrators were a rag tag bunch who looked as if they all needed a good nights sleep a bath and a couple of good meals, not exactly typical Parisians. This America hating mantra that runs on the MSM news channels is a fairytale as far as I’m concerned. I’ve never seen it once in our travels and I wear USA hoodies and Dallas Cowboy caps (kinda hard to miss us!). Let Iran have their pay if you attend “down with the great satan rallies”, that won’t get them much in return for the effort. No doubt there are plenty of people and ideologies that love to hate Americans, America and her policies, many of them are living in America some are in congress or work for the New York Times. They are the vast vocal minority. the squeaky wheels that get broadcast on the “we have to shock you” news channels. That’s not going to change if Barry is elected.
Granted we haven’t visited any Muslim countries, nor will we in the near future but the world does not hate America or Americans. Iraqi citizens have an overwhelming love for Americans, the ones that aren’t planting IEDS, there are fewer of them there every single day thanks to the coalition forces. Asia’s approval ratings of US policies are at a 5 year high, no doubt thanks to the turmoil in the area (China-Tibet, Indonesia, Taiwan, North Korea and more) while Western Europe is rapidly moving to see the US perspective as the way they view the world. Governments in Italy, Germany, France, Great Britain and others are voting in conservative governments, liberalism has lost it’s sheen in those countries. Eastern European (former Soviet satellites) are among our best and most devoted allies, they’ve seen first hand the horrors of what socialism and communism means, at the tip of a bayonet. Don’t believe the liberal spin that the world hates us, the part that do hate us aren’t exactly the kind of people or countries you’d like to be seen with in the light of day anyway. The ones who do support us know that we are steadfast and intent on helping the common man throw off the shackles of despots and tyrants. Hopefully electing Obama won’t change that either.
July 7th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Wow, I messed up the BQ formatting in #28 - LOL!
Digg the post:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Why_Obama_Will_Fail
July 8th, 2008 at 12:01 am
#29 - LMAO!!! Delusional much? HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
BTW, Sandmonkey, I think you should give Cindy McCain a deeper look. There’s a lot more to her than that drug thing, she’s really a generous, caring person. She works with orgs about land mines, and gives piles of money to various causes, esp. Operation Smile (their youngest daughter, Bridget, was adopted by them when she brought Bridget to the US for cleft palate surgery). The vicodin (?) thing was awful, but it was a real aberration for her.
I’m sure the Dems will no doubt wear out the story again, but I think most voters will see it for what it is.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Hey Sandman -
I don’t buy the US is the ‘most’ racist country in the world nonsense… which is what it is.. it’s the best experiment against racism in the history of the planet likely…
You went to school here do you really think at college that this is a racist country? The movies from the 50’s and prior about Jim Crow make most people’s (white people’s) skin crawl…
You think there would EVVVVER be a bball or soccer game where thousands of white fans were screaming N—-gar in the stands? Britain, Europe…
Europe is just trying the experiment that the US made work for the past 120 years…. the US is a nation of immigrants it’s easy to show how “unracist” you are when you control the makeup of your population. Egypt won’t recognize 3rd generation Palestinians as citizens even if 3/4 of their grandparents are Egyptian descent.
All true except Carter ran in 76 as a centrist on economic issues. That may have been a front but that’s the ticket he ran on.
Second - scarily Carter would have been re-elected except for double digit inflation, Arab oil embargo helped cause - and the Iranian hostage crisis. Even with that he still was winning until the end when Reagan figured out how to effectively use those.
Also, come on man… I bet every member of your family thinks Carter is the greatest most compassionate man in the world… and all bought his Apartheid Book.
WRONG - Obama as a man won’t be an “embarrassment” to his race period. As a President he’ll eventually be assessed as any other President.. except by CNN who was in love with Clinton before and will do the same for him.
Obama will finally be assessed based on him and all of the race merchants will lose sway bcs middle class decent America won’t feel shamed into having to like a President that think isn’t a good President for whatever reason. Comedians will be able to mock him bcs of him and his wife regardless of his skin color and black/white heritage.
And finally third - a lot of black conservative writers and commentators will be able to take down the left and get a lot more credence. Sowell and Williams will be at their finest hour.
I don’t think most Americans give a crap if he’s black or white.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I love it when that Ass wipe Tedders reaches into the toilet after a healthy defecation and smears a little poop on his fingers to come wipe off on this blog — Asia’s approval ratings of US policies are at a 5 year high — leaving just enough under his fingernails to sniff at night when his head momentarily clears.
How gracious of you…
July 8th, 2008 at 12:21 am
An Egyptian woman who has lived here for about 12 years… told me the other day that she was scared when she first moved here bcs many of her neighbors were black… bcs she watched so many American videos and movies in Egypt about black people…. of course most of those movies were made/produced and/or written by black people… especially the whole gangster rap industry.
Then she wanted to introduce me to her nephew in from Egypt and I stuck out my hand to a tall tan skinned guy to which she got insulted and said “I dont’ think so”…. (the guy was a good looking light skinned black guy not him)… her nephew was actually a whiter than me nerdy Egyptian guy doing reidency in NYC for 6 months.
I don’t know if her implication was that Americans are racist towards black by portraying gang movies etc… or that Jooooss in Hollywood do that…. lol…
Kind of ironic that she was implying that her racism is also due to America.. her otherwise pristine unracist Eygptian mind… right after I told her well just as you realized how wrong you were about the way you guys portray Jewish people… to which she laughed and said no that’s just in our blood when we are born… (most of her kid’s friends and their customers are Jewish)
LOL… sometimes real life and people are 10x more ridiculous than movies or comedian’s stories.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Spot-on article. The US does seem to be the only country so fascinated with what other countries think about it. Meanwhile, the other countries are thinking about how they can use that to further their own interests. Obama will play right into that.
If another country and the US have the same interests on a subject, then it is natural that they will work together towards it. If they do not, a Republican administration usually prefers actions that favor US interests. Democrat administrations prefer whatever “feels good”, without respect to US interests. They are easy to con. Jimmy Carter was the penultimate example of that.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:49 am
I won’t say anything more because I don’t want you to get your marine bodies to beat me up. I’m not built for that.
LouLou, that was actually pretty bad advice I gave there! I forgot about the “run before the police arrive” part a couple times, and it didn’t work out so well. Nevermind :O
Anyone else think “I hate Zionist Theives” is most likely to be a 13 year old gangsta living in Nebraska?
July 8th, 2008 at 1:29 am
I hope you are wrong on this. I don’t know a single person who plans to vote for BO. Clinton won the primary here and from what I’m hearing they either aren’t planning to vote or do like Democrats did in 1980 and cross the line.
You are right about BO being the second coming of Carter. If you study their speeches you will soon find out how similar they really are.
July 8th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Mike Nargiziain says:
I don’t understand, why did she felt insulted when you extended your hand to shake her nephew’s hand?
Pastor of the Church of McCain Says:
That was the most foul, most uncivilized post I have ever read on this blog. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
July 8th, 2008 at 3:31 am
the guy I thought was her nephew was a tall light skinned black guy that worked at their restaurant.. it wasn’t their nephew… the point is that she is prejudiced against blacks to some/large degree.. which is fine a lot of immigrants are prejudiced… the ironic part about it is she watched Al Jazeera every night which tells her how America is the mossssssssst racist (supposedly) country in the world… and she’s really more prejudiced than the average American in my opinion… and she’s Egyptian about 35 living her for about 12 years… now you got the whole story.
July 8th, 2008 at 7:58 am
This should be enough to convince anyone that Obama’s foreign policy will be anything BUT how this blog post just described it.
Anyone who’s read or listened to Obama’s speeches and public statements, looked at his cabinet roster and appointments, or observed his votes in Congress knows he doesn’t deviate in the slightest from the hawkish trajectory of the Democratic Party since the beginning of the century.
As for the Carter comparison: Sure. To the extent that follows this ideological tradition:
-President Jimmy Carter, State of the Union address, January 23, 1980
July 8th, 2008 at 9:27 am
tedders represents the archetype of the eternal and generous Americans that we use to like, that came to help us to remove an evil dictature whitout counting how many american lifes would be sacrified. This is also the America that we still like. Though the internationalist pacifist elitism tried/tries to convince us that they are just a blood thursty gang. Might be that some of their political representants are alike, as so everywhere in the world, but the “very” American has not “evil” in mind.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:53 am
This analysis is spot on! I’m especially glad to see someone bringing up the apostate point. As an American, I’ll vote for McCain, but really– we need another Reagan.
July 8th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Hey Beth, how much CNN kool aid do you drink?
July 8th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Ah, ic. Thanks.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Web Reconnaissance for 07/08/2008…
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July 8th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Good article. I agree he will be elected for the reasons you state, sm. He will fail. The US is complicated with many issues at any given time all changing constantly. Manager, leader, negotiator, economist and military commander; Obama has little to no experience as any of these let alone all. Would you hire the manager of the mail room to run OPEC?
He will fail, but the US will recover.
July 8th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
It’s called reading between the lines. In Obama’s hard left wing ideological heart he’s got a strong streek of very left wing elitist (imo) viewpoint. However, when you become President this has to modify because once your behind the controls and not reading a textbook it’s a different world.
However, the speeches he’s giving now isn’t about him (imo) changing his point of view, it’s about him trying to become more centrist to peal as much of the middle of the road Rep and Independent voters as he can and become President. THUS, WHAT THAT SPEECH TELLS YOU IS THAT RATHER THAN “CH CH CH CHANGES” HE’S AS CALCULATING AND CYNICAL AND POWER HUNGARY AS THE NEXT POLITICIAN TRYING TO GET ELECTED”
Really? Then you live in your own Daily Kos Kool Aid fantasy world.. too bad Robert Fisk or Ken Livingstone isn’t running bcs you might prefer them eh?
That’s pretty good pulling out 1 quote and making it a mandate to prove your narrow minded Kool Aid opinion. If Jimmy Carter is a hawk then the only ideal candidate for you must be Ramsay Clark or the UFO Congressman, and then we all know what planet you’re on.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:06 am
Any chance you could become US Secretary of State? I mean you hit the nail on the head.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:45 am
As far as I am concerned it is not what they think of us Americans should worry but rather they should worry about what us Americans think of them.
“Whole 9 yards” movie (as best as I can remember): “Let’s not worry about how many people I killed. It is how I get along with those who are still alive that counts”.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:27 am
This is exactly the prevailing chauvinist attitude in America when bereft of all the bullshit pretense and “democracy/human rights/liberty/freedom” lip service. The latter being fodder the unwashed, stupid, and naive are all but eager to guttle, and then regurgitate into their children’s minds.
July 9th, 2008 at 7:12 am
You can barely decipher a Shel Silverstein poem, let alone communicate an original thought about politics. Never mind that one doesn’t need to “read between the lines” to see the forest. Obama is center-right, as have been all his Party predecessors. This is Democrat Party practice, not pandering. In fact, Obama’s most recent party antecedent, Bill Clinton, was, along with chum Tony Blair (to his Labour), instrumental in consolidating that center-right trajectory. Just to give you a taste:
That was Sierra Club President David Brower in 1996.
And what the hell does this mean:
That was his fucking mandate. In fact it became known as The Carter Doctrine. By all means, look it up.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:26 am
In fact it became known as The Carter Doctrine.
Carter had a doctrine? Are you serious? And you are praising somebody who had a hard-line doctrine that he never even tried to implement? Here we are, laughing at Carter, and you come along and give us another reason to laugh? And act like you are transferring carter’s non-existent credibility to Obama? Should we expect Obama’s pronouncements of immutable US policy to be equally valuable?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
ummmm i’m pretty bad with math, in addition to many other things…could someone kindly help me out?
OBAMA X (4 ERRATIC YEARS) = 8 X (HILL/BUBBA)
OR
OBAMA X (4 ERRATIC TEARS) = 8 X (THE NEXT REGAN)
THE FIRST SCENARIO SEEMS FRIGHTENING, THE SECOND ONE EVEN MORESO (NOT B/C IT’S REGAN.) But do to the fact that the republicans might spend 40 years in the wilderness looking for that ever so elusive next Regan ala the dems with JFK.
It seems that nancy regan has been beatified by the GOP just like jackie was 50 years earlier by the dems.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I haven’t read the entire thread but concerning this quote:
“how this man intends to both balance the budget ( with its huge deficit) and implement Universal Healthcare (which any idiot would tell you wouldn’t exactly be..ehh..cheap). Or, if you are suffering from the shitty deal you got from your healthcare provider and you don’t care how this gets financed, explain to me again how he will “convince” the Businesses that left the US for China or India to come back to the US, where they will have to pay both higher taxes AND labor costs, plus whatever new taxes he intends to raise to finance your healthcare.”
… my answer would be: Look at Denmark (or Finland, etc.) - we have this system and it works like a charm. We haven’t had any serious problem with companies relocating either. Sure, they move their manual production to India and China, but we have a shortage in manpower as it is and haven’t got anyone to do the hard manual work anyway…
July 9th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Great post, Sandmonkey!
Just a couple of things I wanted to mention:
As I understand it, Cindy McCain had undergone multiple back surgeries after rupturing a disk. Due to continuing pain she began taking more of the pills then were prescribed and became addicted to Percocet and Vicodin. Having watched my mother deal with back problems I can see where someone may do so. It’s extremely painful and frustrating.
I’m not sure if Obama would have to do a lot to bring business back to the US. Some of them have already been convinced by high transportation costs to move their operations back to either Mexico or the United States. It’s not a stampede exactly, but it is a bit of a reverse migration.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Jou Blunt #50,
“This is exactly the prevailing chauvinist attitude in America when bereft of all the bullshit pretense and “democracy/human rights/liberty/freedom” lip service. The latter being fodder the unwashed, stupid, and naive are all but eager to guttle, and then regurgitate into their children’s minds.”
Actually this is prevailing chauvinist (if you like) attitude in whole of the World and rest is just a load of BS only clueless idealist who h