Egyptian Embassy in Yemen stormed by angry mob

The Egyptian Embassy in Yemen was stormed today by angry Ghaza-supporting portestors, who detsoyed its furntiture, set the egyptian flag on fire and then erected the palestinian flag on top of it. This is the second attack on an egyptian embassy within 3 days, with lebanese protestors throwing rocks at the egyptian embassy in Beirut on Sunday. Despite that both attacks do constitute acts of war, we urge you not to blame the protestors, and to please Blame Egypt instead! 

Comments

  1. Don’t blame Egypt…it is the Jew’s fault

  2. I support Egypt on this one.

    I would like to ask, is anyone, anywhere planning a rally AGAINST HAMAS and its owners in foreign capitals? None of this had to happen. Egypt and the PA both tried to stop HAMAS from “declaring war” (though it had never stopped) and escalating the conflict. HAMAS spat in their faces.

    I would also willingly attend a pro-Egypt rally at this point. Egypt is getting blamed for trying to be generally sane and responsible, to NOT get dragged into a war started by genocidal and power-crazed psychos, to NOT allow massive numbers of armed HAMAS terrorists to pour into Sinai.

    And the people trying to stir up anti-Egypt hatred are exactly the same Islamist and Baathist psychopaths who have repeatedly smashed or strangled their own countries through their delusional hatred. Yes, of course everyone should listen to them; they know best, after all, down in their caves. Don’t they?

  3. Zvi for president

  4. Did not Nasser have an especially dirty war in Yemen? I seem to recall something about mustard gas? Maybe the latest outrage covers much deeper resentments?

  5. Ruth…

    There is a famous story about a debate between, I think it was Rabin and maybe Sadat…

    The upshot was something along the lines of the Egyptian accusing Israel of having used something like naplam in 73. Rabin did not deny it and quoted some international law or another…

    Then he asked…”what about the use of gas against the Yemen’s”.

    His counterpart answered “what we Arabs do to each other is our own business”.

  6. SM – Man I love it when you stick up for Egypt!!

    Egyptians aren’t Palestinian are they?? Was it Egyptians that elected Hamas?? Is it the Egyptians that are launching missiles into Israel? So Palestinians elect suicidal terrorists to run their land and then it’s Egyptians that have to fight the battles they themselves start? Lol. F that!

    Egypt needs to stay out of this one and let Israel finish off those thugs once and for all. Then maybe next time they won’t elect a bunch of assholes to power…

  7. I think I have a solution.

    Egypt must pick up Gazans and dump them into Yemen. Israel will pick up the tab. Gaza may remain in Egyptian hands for what I care or Egyptians may sell it to Israelis if both want agree.

  8. zvi:

    ” is anyone, anywhere planning a rally AGAINST HAMAS and its owners in foreign capitals?”

    Higly unlikely – the people demonstrating in western capitals are of a particularly self-rightous and at the same time self-degrading kind. Normal people have plenty of other things to do than to attend meaningless demonstration after meaningless demonstration… Not that all demonstrations are meaningless, but if your automatic response to anything and everything is to hit the streets with signs and shouts claiming complete lack of morals in your opponents and threatening the end of civilization, you haven’t understood the meaning of the phrase “to cry wolf”…

  9. I included this in the latest round up of news and posts about Gaza.

  10. Looks like a trend here – “I’m angry at someone in some country, so I’m going to burn it’s embassy down”. And they call what Israel is doing for an over-reaction? Compared to what?

    SM – thanks for keeping us posted.

  11. If teh Gazans had some embassies, I’d be happy to go throw rocks through the windows and set it on fire… maybe destroy the BMWs of a few Palestinian employees and such like that. That’s not illegal, is it? Can somebody start a petition to force the Gazans to open an embassy here in Los Angeles?

  12. I think it’s lovely how politically pro-active arabs are. They seem to have an ethnic knack to spontanuous demonstrations – not the organized, 20:00 to 23:00, special transportation provided, lame ‘we support x’ corwdings we have in israel every other year or so in Rabin’s square, but real, raw, unsublimed pouring to the streets.

  13. Actually, the anti-Israel demos and the like are indeed organized, transport provided, etc. to a much greater extent than they want you to believe.

    Also, these “spontaneous” demonstrations are usually about revenge rather than about anything constructive. They’re would-be lynch mobs, not political demonstrations in the peaceful sense to which we are used.

    Remember the “2 minute hate” in 1984?

  14. They seem to have an ethnic knack to spontanuous demonstrations…

    It’s called “brainwashing”, Nadavu, and it works on all ethnicities. If you want Israeli Jews to behave the way Arabs do, you should give it a try! Be forewarned, you are likely to achieve similar results… brainwashed zombies tend to not be very productive members of society. In fact, they are generally useless for anything other than their intended purpose.

  15. Adam, I agree. Demonstrations here in the West are highly organized, attended by the same crowd, and not constructive. They are generally against something or someone or they hate someone or something—out in force to make that hatred known. Normal people generally have more to do in their own lives or do whatever they can—not just ranting and talking about it.

  16. Having been to a number of rallies in the U.S. against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I can tell you that they are more filthy than you can imagine. Being in them, I have seen pregnant women pushed to the ground and men choked to the point that they were on their knees.

    As far as this current war is concerned, I think Israel is once again playing a losing hand… Short of killing every man, woman and child in Gaza they will not win. Of course, they are not willing to do this and so they will lose in the public arena as well as militarily.

    It is an interesting development that Egypt is being dragged into this. Those that follow the events in Gaza know that Egypt is just as complicit in keeping the Rafa crossing closed as are the Israelis. In fact, I would be hard pressed to name any country that wants the Palestinians freed from thier prison.

    I have often wondered if the Egyptians gave them the Sinai if the Palestinians would be able to spread out and start a real country? If you believe that all they want is a homeland then this would be an interesting experiment. If you believe that they are beyond redemption than this would be a disaster…

  17. Sorry for the double post, I just don’t have the energy to rewrite everything in a different order coz it is all repetition in the end and it is all getting rather monotonous.

    I urge you folks to give it up already, quit trying to justify murder, mayhem, occupation by intellectualizing everything!

    I left several links made by ex Israeli IDF soldiers and families of peace activists killed by the IDF, showing the murderous plight of the morally depraved Zionists that kill in the name of lust, pride and greed!

    Since this is a biased comment section with at least 85% hard line Zionist supporters, I can’t say it doesn’t surprise me that they fell on blind eyes and deaf ears.

    Israel gets its kill-for-free pass for the next 200 years for capitalizing on the holocaust.

    Israel is the greatest injustice ever inflicted on an ethnicity by a religious minority in modern times since the inquisition.

    Israel is bad

    Israel is lustful

    Israel is blind

    Israel is Ignorant

    Israel will perish because good always triumphs over evil in the end.

    The only thing said that was correct during the intellectualizing and denial of the pain Israel is causing is – “absolutely zilch” you have no case!

    Arabs and their leaders can’t and won’t do a single God dam thing about the injustice that is called Israel, simply because it is not worth it.

    Ever heard of the concept of “central banking?” that runs every economy in the world?

    ever heard of the IMF?

    Who invented it?

    More importantly, who still controls this system which is a part of every economy?

    You guessed right – Congratulations to you guys lol.

    I know you are gonna pull out the dysfunctional Uzi’s and your anti Semite cards and say something like, umm whats your point, it is just a coincidence etc bla bla bla.

    But ask yourselves, do you really think that Hillary Clinton, Obama, Oprah, Mubarak, King Abdullah or anyone who is standing by and doing nothing but condemning Israel verbally, really likes Israel or having their arm twisted. Do you think we really sympathize with Israe? Are you fucking serious ??/ No, LOl Hah HAha – We just don’t need the headache.

    King Abdullah donated his own blood to Hamas ruled Gaza.

    Mubarak donated = let’s just say sustenance

    Western Europe and the U.N. are sending aid like never before!

    We tolerate you Israeli’s…just as we allow same sex marriages and even gays to be ordained as priests coz we don’t need the headaches of being called oppressors… add infinitum.

    We let Israel have a field day with their surgical hits and mass collateral damage coz we don’t need the headaches or the repercussions that follow. Such as having our soup spat in or being called antisemites even though 505 of us are Semites ourselves.

    Look what happens to any politician that says something true and derogatory about Israel? Somehow they are suddenly involved in a sex scandal or an accident on an icy road or even better, they suddenly see the light and put their shoe in their own mouth.

    Hmmmmmm…????????

    Not to take anything away from Israel that knows Good will triumph over evil. They are very smart and they force the inhabitants of the land they are trying to diplomatically ethnically cleans to retaliate in sheer tantrums of rage after having killed and pilferaged their settlements. Hence labelling them as terrorists and victims of Al jazeera etc. — SAD— !

    When the time comes that God will allow the coming of the Messiah — which you guys don’t believe in, so don’t mock — who will smitten world oppressors, with the help of true Christians, Muslims and reformed Jews. Then it will be too late for you Israel.

    But I guess we could always consider you guys collateral damage, just as the 10′s of 1000′s you have killed and the 100′s of 1000′s you have displaced.

    Keep enjoying the blood settlements of Israel.

    HAMAS IS FIRING ROCKETS INTO SDEROT AND ASHKELON WHICH IS THERE LAND UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW AND U.N. MANDATE.

    YOU GUYS HAVE NO CASE WHAT SO EVER!

    It will go down in history that there was once an Israeli state built on blood, so please enjoy it while it lasts.

    Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth. The freedom fighters there don’t hide behind civilians you well educated liars. Try putting 40 people in a small room and hitting them with a bullet while they dodge your shots. I bet that would look like they were hiding behind others too wouldn’t it?

    Gaza fights for the fundamental concept of survival.

    Israel fights or greed, pride, lust and having no real identity, poor lost people!

    Stop the killing and we will be your friends.

  18. babs,

    having been to a number of rallies in the U.S. against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I can tell you that they are more filthy than you can imagine.

    Really? You mean, more filthy than blowing up embassies and dragging people from their cars to beat them to death? Because I don’t even have to imagine that, I’ve seen it.

    Being in them, I have seen pregnant women pushed to the ground and men choked to the point that they were on their knees.

    Yeah, right. And what kind of pregnant woman attends a violent demonstration? If lunatic leftists have more sense than that.

    Methinks you are a liar.

  19. Sand Ape, please examine the things that you are saying and believing. It’s insane to vilify an entire group of people. You talk as though you are depraved. Get some real information and I bet you will modify your views. Yes, Gaza is densely populated and for all that very few civilians have been killed even by Hamas’ own admission. In WWII, the Allied Forces, lead by the RAF (UK) pursued a scorched earth policy, firebombing Dresden and killing thousands of people. Ground temperatures due to the bombing reached above the boiling point and it took weeks for the Germans to bury the dead. Thousands and thousands of people were killed and a city destroyed. The operation in Gaza is nothing like that. NOTHING. Hamas has killed more people in Israel and has sent thousands of rockets into Israel, all aimed toward residential areas. Get a grip. Get some facts. You make no sense. Most of us who post here try to have a true understanding of what is going on, and are willing to modify our views, and to try to advocate for justice—what you are saying is inaccurate and unproductive.

  20. Lynne…

    Ignore SandApe…you are being suckered…

    She constantly changes her ID and then prowls around her saying the most absurd stuff.

  21. Israelis hold their land in title partially derived from the British abandonment to them in 1948, at which point they conquered it against the Arab attempt to do the same. The British title derives from the surrender of these lands by Ottoman Turkey. They in turn conquered it from the Mamluks in 1517. Who conquered it from the Crusaders in 1291. Who conquered it from the Fatimids in 1099. Who conquered it from the Seljuks in 1098. Who conquered it from the Abbasids…

    #17 has given me an epiphany. It is rants like this which make world opinion have less than a care for the plight of Palestinians. Ignorant and so liberal with the truth that we are tempted to think the author deranged.

    I am far away from this current conflict although I did live in Netanya for nine months and so do follow events in that part of the world from time to time. I just do not see why anyone could possibly think the current Ghazan leadership has any moral grounds for their behaviour in the way they conduct their resistance to the perceived occupation.

    And it seems to me that in the comparison of the backwardness, poverty, and endemic misery of Ghaza (and, perhaps, many other Middle-Eastern lands) to the privilege and prosperity of Israel, the conclusion most often made is that it proves evil Jewish conspirators have upset the natural (Godly) order of things. I beg to tell you that you will find many other reasons for this prosperity.

  22. Uragan, thank you for providing an accurate historical perspective and a rational response.

  23. Howie, thanks. She’s dumb, isn’t she? Thanks for the heads up. It is a complete waste of time talking to idiots. Those who are reasonable with another point of view, yes, very worthwhile discussions come from that, but with this type of person, nothing productive. I had to take three aspirins after just reading the crap she wrote last.

  24. Sand Are @ 17,

    “Sorry for the double post, I just don’t have the energy to rewrite everything in a different order coz it is all repetition in the end and it is all getting rather monotonous.”

    Why don’t you stop torturing yourself and stand easy? We got it first time around.

  25. “I had to take three aspirins after just reading the crap she wrote last.”

    I hope you are just kidding or else you better stop coming here.

  26. Leo, I can take it; I’ve been reading SM’s blog for a couple of years. Something about the drivel that she wrote and that fact that I have been very tense about the miserable situation in Ghaza just unnerved me. I got a terrible headache. Truth be told, I have been so hopeful in the past that there would be a satisfactory resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (something that would be good for all), and I am bitterly disappointed. I realize that there has been little to be optimistic about, but I have clung to every positive or semi-positive sign in hope that some compromise would be reached.

  27. Oh Lynn dear Lynn..See how close I was too finally tipping the scale and having YOU actually SEE the facts and perhaps turning you into an enlightened soul.

    I know that lots of the pro Palestinian advocates say harsh racist and ignorant things which are rather dis-compelling.

    However you tasked ME to PLEASE EXAMINE the things I am SAYING and BELIEVING.

    Okay, let’s do that shall we.

    Starting by examining what you believe and have said that is fictitious, shall we.

    YOU BRAZENLY SAID: Hamas has killed more people in Israel and has sent thousands of rockets into Israel, all aimed toward residential areas. Get a grip. Get some facts.

    OK STOP RIGHT HERE LYNNE!

    Under U.N. jurisdiction and international law, the rockets that are being fired into so called Israel are actually landing on land belonging to Palestine and yes, that means Hamas. Therefore you are in grave error, and to say that “I make no sense.” Is incredulous and not at all worthy of your intellect. Please re examine yourself. From one moment calling me a kind person to then falling into the trap of calling me stupid. See how ignorance can so easily be contagious.

    It takes a great person to re examine their self and admit that they were in err.

    And to say that “Most of us who post here try to have a true understanding of what is going on — WHAT, DID YOU JUST SAY TRY TO HAVE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING of whats going on??? ACCORDING TO WHOM, BORAT? — and are willing to modify our views.

    I THINK NOT, I JUST BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT HAMAS ALTHOUGH A NUT CASE ORGINIZATION DUE TO BEING HUNTED, STARVED AND ATTACKED, IS ACTUALLY FIRING ROCKETS INTO ITS OWN OCCUPIIED LAND UNDER ACCORDING TO THE U.N. MANDATE OF PALESTINE.

    Israel Is a renegade state THAT openly ignores AND DEFIES THE U.N.!

    Never mind the VERY influential ties Israel has with the Jewish banking community worldwide that has great influence over most Western governments by the scrotum!

    Thank You!

  28. Facts please, remember!

  29. Craig,
    “Yeah, right. And what kind of pregnant woman attends a violent demonstration? If lunatic leftists have more sense than that.

    Methinks you are a liar.”

    Pregnant women in violent demonstrations is classic, and has long since became a must. at least among the settlers around here, which seem to think that it makes their stand more righteous. I once thought such parents should have their parenting license revoked, but was startled to discover that you don’t actually need a permit for bringing children into this world.

  30. Roman Kalik says:

    Under U.N. jurisdiction and international law, the rockets that are being fired into so called Israel are actually landing on land belonging to Palestine and yes, that means Hamas.

    And that’s something you call facts rather than belief?

    Please, do look it up next time before typing.

  31. For a different perspective from Ghaza, check out the latest post on olehgirl.com.

  32. Two Israelis shot and wounded in a shopping mall in Denmark.

    Now, besides the police, we have two groups of people that regularly carry guns – Hells Angels and middle eastern immigrant gang members. My guess is that Hells Angels had no particular reason for shooting two israelis…!

    Can we please be excluded from your “fun”?!?

  33. YES — !!!!!!!!!

    IN YO FACE — TOUCHDOWN !!!!!!!

  34. @33 Sand Ape

    SandApe, you do know that every time you say anything, the likud gains supporters around the world. Yes?

  35. You have Hell’s Angels in Denmark, Adam? Didn’t know that.

    My guess is that Hells Angels had no particular reason for shooting two israelis…!

    Not unless the Israelis were drug dealers who were infringing on somebody’s turf or some such.

    Nadavu,

    Pregnant women in violent demonstrations is classic, and has long since became a must. at least among the settlers around here, which seem to think that it makes their stand more righteous.

    Hmmm… seems like any woman who risks the life of her unborn child for the sake of a political cause has already lost whatever claim to righteousness she may have had! But I can see how that would cause riot police/military to be hesitant about their duties when things get ugly.

    I once thought such parents should have their parenting license revoked, but was startled to discover that you don’t actually need a permit for bringing children into this world.

    Lol. Seems like there should be such a permit, sometimes, doesn’t it? But reproductive rights are probably the most basic human rights there are, and some would say God-given rights, so who would get to decide who is worthy and who is not? That is what natural selection is for, isn’t it? Although natural selection seems like it hasn’t been working with humans for the last ~1000 years or so. Maybe longer. The least successful specimens of humanity are the ones breeding like rabbits, while the most successful are choosing to have very small families, or remain childless… I still think the natural order will re-assert itself, one way or another, though. It always does. Hopefully, humanity will survive when that happens.

  36. Witnessing Zvi, typical of an unorthodox Zionist running out of intellectual steam and needing electrolytes to replenish his illusions of grandeur and savvy wit.

    Thats usually the case before a teen age Hezbollah or Hamas motherfucker cross the imaginary border (Apartheid security wall – ROFLMAO hard) and kidnaps one of your sorry asses.

    I have no stake whether Israel or Hamas live or die. I just hate sensationalizing one faggot dead Israeli in a rooting coffin compared to the blindness of of 100 innocent kids lying dead in Israel’s shock and awe surgical strikes.

    Heads or tails?

  37. If you have “no stake” in the matter, then where are your ravings about this atrocity, that has claimed the same number of lives in the same period of time?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7804470.stm

    More than 400 people have been killed by Ugandan rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo in attacks since Christmas day, aid agency Caritas says.

    In fact, that is a worse atrocity, because the victims are completely blameless. Unlike Gazans.

  38. Craig,
    “Yeah, right. And what kind of pregnant woman attends a violent demonstration? If lunatic leftists have more sense than that.

    Methinks you are a liar.”

    Ah, Craig… Perhaps I should have put my comments in beter context.
    I don’t know what country you are from although I always assumed that you were from the U.S.?
    I was involved back in 2002-2004 with a group called Protest Warrior. We would go to anti war rallies, which of course were always advertised as “peaceful” demonstrations, and counter protest. I attended several of these rallies as a counter protester and they always turned violent. At one so called peaceful demonstration on the Mall in Washington D.C. a man and his 6 month pregnant wife came to stand with us. At one point we were surrounded by screaming, spitting “peaceniks” and yes, they did shove this woman to the ground. We all were asking them to stop their agression and were telling them not to harm the woman as she was pregnant but, it made no difference. And BTW, the people doing this shoving and spitting, cursing and screaming were the “security” service for the rally!
    My claim of watching a man get choked to his knees took place during a “peaceful” march in NYC during the republican nat’l convention. This man was right next to me and a couple of crazed “peaceniks” came up to us. We were at about Lexington Ave. and 50th street. One of them told me he wanted to put a bullet in my head and the other one started choking the man next to me until he dropped to his knees. The NYC police stepped in and rescued both of us and brought us behind their lines. An Army medic had actually come along with us with a backpack filled with supplies in case we got injured at the “peace” rally.
    I guess I am a slow learner because I attended several “peaceful” rallies before I concluded that they were hazardous to my health and stopped attempting to employ my right to free speech.
    The pattern was the same at each rally/march. But, as the months wore on the participants seemed to become more and more violent.

    As for your claim of watching embassies sacked and cars blown up, I am truly sorry to hear it. However, you might have querried me a bit before calling me a liar.
    Thanks,
    Babs

  39. babs, I don’t really know who you are but I assumed you were just another type-in-name for one of the blog trolls here. You don’t sound it, based on your recent comment, so I apologize :)

    PS-I am American, yes.

  40. Way to go Craig!

  41. Craig,
    This is an interesting video in that it took place in Ft. Lauderdale FL yesterday!
    The police seemed to do a good job of preventing violence but in the great scheme of things, the crowd was pretty small. The rallys I attended had tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people stoked on moral indignation…
    Watch toward the end when the Palesinian side attemps to directly confront the Israeli side. There is a woman in her late 30′s maybe 40′s holding an Israeli flag. Take a look at the expression on her face of real fear when she realizes that the Palestinians are going to physically confront her group.
    I can so relate. You think you have a right as an American citizen to assemble in public and express your point of view until you realize that your safety is in danger from a bunch of jacked up young men and women that would like nothing better than to beat you to a pulp and the only thing between you and them are the police…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Xl68kP4wo

  42. I also wonder where the world’s outrage is with regards to the many massacres taking place in Africa. I just finished reading about the the 400 hacked/burned to death in the National Post. I had come to the conclusion long ago that the only reason that the world cares about the Palestinians is because the people who are “oppressing” them are Jews. Otherwise no one would give a shit. Jews are not supposed to be armed and not supposed to defend themselves. We are only supposed to be oppressed. That is the one and only reason people care about the Palestinians. If China, Russia, Syria or some other country were their “occupiers” no one would notice.

  43. oxford anti-semitary says:

    They havent been hacked for 60 years by A FOREIGN OCCUPATION as is the case with the so well educated and meek and peace loving Israeli’s. I swear to God it is beyond sick how they cry and say that they just wanna live in peace, and they never did anything wrong and don’t seem to mind killing with impunity.

    What a retarded and absurd preposterous thing to say on an Arab Zionist blog..Waaah well what about Africa waaaah?

  44. I cant get enough of how silly pro zionist neo cons are. Especially when they remind you that it was God that gave them Palestine. Ridiculous. This ‘real estate agent’ theory is bullshit and in no way valid or substantiated, so I think it would be best for neo cons to figure out a new excuse for the illegal, aparthied, state of Israel other than divine intervention.

  45. 45. daddy:

    Yup, throwing the old “God-gave-us-this-holy-land” card is certainly a sign of a lack in brain power… Just as can be said of the opposite side.

    Most of the ones rooting for Israel on this site have a different perspective on things, though – we just feel that Israel as a state has validity, and that Hamas et al are selfishly disregarding this validity, despite the fact that the continued conflict hurts everyone, themselves more than anyone else.

  46. In order to recognize a state, there are many different factors that need to be addressed and appreciated, among them is the border. How can you expect anyone to recognize the state of Israel when it has NO defined borders. The 1967 borders are continually blown off by Israeli officials and the apartheid wall that hacks into Palestinian terrority doesnt help at all. Dont think I’m pro Hamas or what not, I’m pro justice. Israel wants the land without the people, its an obvious thing. Settlements are cutting deeper and deeper into the west bank with their own networks of highways and complementary checkpoints that are set up to suffocate the West Bank and make life even more unbearable for Palestinians. Hamas, or any other orginization cannot truely recognize Israel as a state if it cannot decide to stay within it’s internationally recognized borders of 1967.

  47. Doesnt’ the lack of borders go for the state of Palestine also, then…? ;)

    Settlements (of the illegal, cross-border kind) are a pain in the ass, that’s for sure. However, the last 60 years have shown that striking out at anyone and everyone will not get the Palestinians their own country… As long as Hamas et al refuse to accept the state of Israel, and keep up the violence, so long will the Palestinians live in a state of semi-war, with retalitory strikes by Israel for every rocket sent across the border by the militants… When Palestine abandons the way of violence and accepts the realities of the world, Israel will have to dismantle any illegal settlement on the wrong side of the border. As it stands right now, Israel and Palestine are practically at war, and as such, borders do not matter much. If actual peace could be achieved, borders would again have to be respected.

  48. 35. Craig:

    Hells Angels and middle east immigrant gangs are the two main dealers when it comes to hash and hard drugs. Israelis are a minute minority group in my country – anyone living here is doing so because he/she has a well-paying job, a danish spouse or studies at the university. It’s highly unlikely that israelis would be involved in dealing drugs…

    As it stands, the israelis were selling haircare products from a stand in the mall – a 27 year old danish palestinian has turned himself in and has cited the conflict in Gaza as the reason for his actions. At least danish muslim societies condemn violent action against israelis within the danish borders, but of course they claim understanding of the emotions that led to the attack – condolence of violent action is standard if the perpetration suits them… :/

  49. Daddy you are 100% right,

    Butt dont you know Zionists have an answer for everything.

    Adam obviously has a point, fuck borders when there is a war. But why should Palestine have to surrender arms first? War is war right? He thinks Arabs should just give in to the big bully on the playground, lol.

    Not gonna happen…

    Even after giving back the 67 borders, how do you erase all the dead kids from your memory. So definitely no peace till the borders are taken or given back! Just like Egypts kick ass war of 1973 prompted Israel to make Egypt the only Arab nation to lose land and get it back.

    Lots of Israeli protest about giving it back. That was the n=best move Israel ever did and my hats totally off to them for that!

  50. ” Just like Egypts kick ass war of 1973 prompted Israel to make Egypt the only Arab nation to lose land and get it back.”

    Clinically delusional!

  51. Oh please ox, the Palestinians and their Arab brothers have only harassed Israel. You don’t think the many wars, suicide bombings and rocket attacks etc. haven’t hurt Israel? As if the Arabs have been just sitting there for 60 years taking it? You are just getting back what you have given. Try peace. I am sure the Israelis will respond in kind. But then that would be too logical.

  52. 48. Adam
    Retaliation? Come on, you’re simply mimicking Israel’s PR campaign that I have to put up with every time I turn on my television at home. It’s always Israel retaliating to Palestinian attacks. Palestinians are just an angry people that seem to just hate Israel. The must be crazy to just fire rockets into Israel, I mean, whats wrong with watching your children go to sleep hungry in Gaza? Or having your wedding held at a checkpoint for 5 hours? Or loosing you livelihood because your farm land is on the other side of a gigantic wall which is currently having a settlement built on it? I can go on forever. UN resolutions are continually being ignored by Israel. It’s zionistic goals are supported by neocons in the U.S and its PR campaign is hiding it from its citizens. You know better than I that Israel has no intention of dismanteling the illegal settlements in the West Bank. When Israel proposed it ridiculous offer to Arafat at Camp David, it maintained the right for major settlements to remain in the West Bank. Almost all of the Jordan valley is a ‘military zone.’ Adam, you seem like a clever guy and if you’re telling me that Israel has the sincere intention of withdrawing behind the internationally recognized border of 1967, you have no idea whats going on in the occupied territories.

  53. 51. Sand Ape:

    Let’s just say that the reason Hamas should be the first to lay down their arms is that, of the two parties in this conflict, they are the ones with the proclaimed aim of exterminating their opponent. As such, it would be complete suicide on the part of the israelis to stop defending themselves.

    “It’s not gonna happen” you say? Well, the only outcome with that attitude in mind is more palestinians dying from israeli retalitory attacks and palestinians continuing their limbo-existence… Is that your idea of a solution?

    54. daddy:

    “Palestinians are just an angry people that seem to just hate Israel.”

    Too many videos on Youtube and elsewhere to even think of denying the truth in this sarcastic remark of yours. Yes, that’s exactly the problem, and untill palestine swallow their pride and move on, the situation is not gonna change. Hamas threatens the destruction of Israel and it’s citizens. Israel retaliates by trying to take out Hamas with as few civilian casualties as possible.

    “UN resolutions are continually being ignored by Israel.”

    True, but even more so by the palestinians, so let’s just simmer it down to the fact that there is a war, and borders don’t count for much during a war…

    “You know better than I that Israel has no intention of dismanteling the illegal settlements in the West Bank”

    I know no such thing, and even if it does turn out to be like you say, Israel will feel the preassure of the entire world, something it will not be able to ignore. Untill Hamas ceases it’s aggression however, Israels transgressions will seem minute in comparrison, and even understandable in the current situation – war is like that.

  54. @ Tedders, the convulsively pro Israeli Teddy bear. Yes Yom Kippur was a kick ass war because in the end it achieved its objectives through attacking Israel and said “We want our land back damn it!” And Israel obliged.

    Would it sound better to you if I were to say ” Like Egypt got its land back in the dismal defeat of a war in 1973?” I know your pastor taught you that Israel is the little pinky of God and a very divine entity and it is if I am insulting God to say that Israel could ever lose a war God forbid!

    Grow up will you. You sound way more Zionist that Israeli Likud!

    LAND THAT HAD BEEN CONQUERED WAS RETURNED BY THE INITIATION OF VI)OLENCE AND SURPRISE ATTACK (which shouldnt have been a surprise at all, everyone saw it coming) THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE NOT BEEN RETURNED AT ALL. EVEN IF EGYPT LOST THE WAR, THEY GOT THEIR LAND BACK BECAUSE OF IT! capiche TEDDY BEAR!

  55. Not to take anything away from Israel, which did the right thing by returning the land. Because now egypt is israel’s biggest ally in the region after lets say Turkey!

  56. “LAND THAT HAD BEEN CONQUERED WAS RETURNED BY THE INITIATION OF VI)OLENCE AND SURPRISE ATTACK”

    So sand ape is advocating a massive and violent invasion of Gaza by Israel!

    Way to go, you convulsively pro Israeli ape man!

  57. @56 you are simply wrong.

    4 years passed after the end of the Yom Kippur War, with Israel holding Sinai throughout that period. Then President Sadat of Egypt visited Israel, discarding the useless policies of the prior 30 years. This move required both enormous bravery and the ability to be a pioneer. It’s far easier, mentally, to get stuck in the old ruts of violence and warfare than it is to blaze a new trail the way he did. I respect him enormously for making that decision, making that effort, and then making good on it.

    President Sadat and Israel’s Prime Minister Begin worked their *asses* off and still nearly failed, but in the end they signed a peace treaty in which Israel returned every square inch of the Sinai (and handed over the Israeli-built tourist resorts intact) to Egypt in a “land for peace” deal. The peace treaty between Israel and Egypt has lasted for 30 years – 30 years in which Egyptian and Israeli 18-year-olds have not repeatedly died fighting each other.

    During the negotiations, Israel asked Egypt to take Gaza back along with the Sinai, as Egypt had occupied Gaza from 1948 until 1967. Egypt refused to take Gaza back. These days, that’s looking like a pretty smart decision.

    @57 That is not actually clear.

    Egypt is plainly pursuing its own national-security objectives with regard to the Gaza conflict. It is not doing anything for the sake of Israel, but rather because it perceives HAMAS strength as an existential threat that would encourage the Muslim Brotherhood to attempt the overthrow of the Egyptian state. Israel, in contrast, has not attacked Egypt in 30 years and has never called for Egyptians to overthrow their government, and demonstrably not a major threat to Egypt as long as Egypt adheres to the treaty.

    If Mubarak, in private, have no desire to hold back the Israelis, then this can be laid entirely at the feet of HAMAS and its masters in Damascus and Tehran, who repeatedly spat in Egypt’s face when Egypt tried to help the people in Gaza over the last several years.

    You’re well aware of all of this, of course. I need not tell YOU about the violent politics of the middle east, or the “strange bedfellows” that they sometimes produce.

    Nevertheless, I’m glad that Israel had the courage to give back the Sinai. I hope that one day, the formal, cold peace between Israel and Egypt becomes a warm and open one, and that peace eventually blossoms between Israel and a future Palestinian state.

  58. LOL I am simply wrong.

    If Egypt didn’t strike at Israel in 1973, then the Sinai would still be occupied.

    I thought it was common to concede that Israel gave it back cuz it wanted peace. Umm, so how did Israel know that Egypt wanted back?

    Hmm, could the 1973 war that Egypt waged against its occupied land be a factor?

    You guys don’t always have to be right because of the extreme world opinion that Israel is the antagonist.

    Come on, this is 6th grade stuff!

  59. 60 @Sand Ape

    If your 6th grade is teaching you this, then you have been betrayed by your education ministry.

    Arab countries, including Egypt, had attacked Israel many times. In 1973, as in previous conflicts, their goal was not to retake Sinai but rather to destroy Israel completely. Thus, after the Yom Kippur war, Israel had no incentive to give the Sinai back to Egypt, because giving it back would simply allow the Egyptians to move their armor closer to the heart of Israel and make it easy for Egypt to seal the Gulf of Aqaba against Israeli shipping again.

    Why, then, did Israel sign a treaty with Egypt 4 years later?

    Israel did not need to know that Egypt wanted Sinai back. But it DID need to know that for the first time in modern history, Egypt was serious about a peace accord with Israel. So how did Israel know that Sadat was serious about making peace?

    When Sadat came to Jerusalem and spoke to the Knesset, no other Arab leader had even considered doing so before. It was an incredibly sweeping change in policy, one that Israelis could not even have imagined in previous years. It generated vast changes in the Israeli psyche.

    The change wrought by Sadat’s visit gave birth (after much painful effort) to the treaty between Israel and Egypt.

  60. Hmm, so it was possible for Sadat to make peace only after Egypt getting Egypt’s land back. So in one shape or form this could be linked to national pride, respect, honor and dignity. These are all International traits shared by all races. Sorry to keep bursting your bubble.

  61. Sand Ape, I think the lowdown is this:

    Egypt and it’s allies lost the 1967 6 day-war.

    Israel kept the Sinai peninsula to hold the upper hand against their enemies.

    When Egypt started the 1973 Yom Kippur war, they took the western part of the Sinai, but at the end of the war, Israel had retaken it and more. As part of the Disengagement Agreements, Israel handed over cpntrol of the Suez to Egypt; that is, the westernmost bank of Sinai.

    In 1979, Egypt parlayed for a lasting peace with Israel (and mutual recognition of their respective countries as well as israeli passage through the Suez canal). Israel agreed to abandon Sinai, since (in theory) attacks from that side was now a thing of the past – in other words, a monumental gesture of trust from the israeli side.

    Pride was not what got Egypt Sinai back; Pride is what they regained by choosing peace over war!

  62. Hmm, so it was possible for Sadat to make peace only after Egypt getting Egypt’s land back

    Sadat’s radical policy change was absolutely clear from the moment he changed direction, and he did not subsequently go back and wink-and-nod at terrorists operating from his zone of control.

    This is the vast difference between Egypt/Jordan and Syria/PLO/HAMAS. It is why Egypt and Jordan got their land back, while Syria and the Palestinians are still playing the victim.

    When you, the Palestinians, learn to create real peace, you will gain real sovereignty. I hope that happens soon. Those of us who would fully support a Palestinian state under those circumstances, are tired of waiting for you to figure it out.

  63. Thanks Adam for getting as close to hitting the nail on the head as you have yet.

    By saying: Israel agreed to abandon Sinai, since (in theory) attacks from that side was now a thing of the past – in other words, a monumental gesture of trust from the Israeli side.

    YES, a monumental gesture!!!! That’s the spirit. That’s exactly what I have been trying to say all along.

    However you failed to see that what I am getting at is that the Sinai returning to Egypt was mandatory for Egypt getting its respect back. No matter how they went about getting that. Peace seemed like a reasonable price to pay.

    Egypt regained its pride and made peace. Or Egypt made peace and regained its pride. Tomayto/tomato.

    You can’t come at me with the one sided view that Egypt was fucked and only when it decided to cooperate did it win any favors. There was to be mutual trust as you said, without either side putting the onus on the other.

    Pride is what they (regained/ held on to) by choosing peace over war!

    I will admit that both phrases are true, but both can be looked at in their own respective lights. What I was trying to say is that Egypt wouldn’t have the ability to move forward with peace if its ego wasnt qwelled and land returned to it as an integral and foreseeable lasting peace agreement.

    If Obama and the Arab world can assure Israel peace, even from nut job Iran and Nasr Allah proxy if Israel returns its pre 67 borders, how hard will it be and how long would it take Israel to accept that deal. I mean time would be of the essence before more violence breaks out and radical Jewish settlers and Muslim jihadists go into Synagogues and mosques and throw grenades again. Israel had better act quick if the chance avails itself if they want a lasting cold peace that could eventually turn into at least a very profitable lasting peace!

    The land and peace together at the same time is what worked in the past and it wasnt easy. So that is probably what will work again, but there has to be assurances.

    Ok, on the count of three, ready… 1, 2, 3

    “LAND FOR PEACE.”

  64. The problem remains, that Hamas, as they themselves proclaim, has no intention of exchanging land for peace. Therefore, the basis for the trust that Israel and Egypt showed each other back in the days, is not present today. This situation demands that Hamas changes it’s proclaimed objective, and accept that they will have to co-exist with a jewish state as their neighbour. With a slight alteration to your own suggestion, which I applaud by the way:

    “PEACE FOR LAND.”

    :)

  65. LOL! Tomayto/tomato
    :)

  66. I don’t agree – it’s a matter of what comes first. In this case, Hamas needs to prove their good intentions before Israel can afford to give back land…

  67. With the huge distrust between both sides and the demonizing, it isn’t likely that either side will budge first!
    The fact that Israel concedes that it is willing to return stolen and captured lands is admission enough that it is at fault to begin with, but justifies the keeping of these lands as a security measure makes sense militarily, but doesn’t do the job morally.

    LMAO at Obama having retracted his statement that no other race has suffered as much as the Palestinian people, after coming under attack by the old and powerful pro Israel lobby!