For your consideration

Given that my new status, according to some of my readers, as an "Anti-israel propagandist", I would like to invite you all to read this piece of Anti-Israel propaganda, provided by Ynet news:

Earlier this week, Time Magazine claimed that Israel cannot defeat Hamas. As usual, Time is wrong. Of course Israel can win. Hamas is not a mass Palestinian liberation movement: Rather, it is a small Islamofacist organization that forcefully took over a despaired region and turned it into an Islamic state nightmare.

Is there no effective way to defeat Hamas? Of course there is. For example, for every Qassam fired from Gaza, we can bomb Hamas’ headquarters in Damascus. For example, for every Qassam fired at Israel, we can assassinate a senior Hamas figure, either belonging to the military or “political” wing. Israel won the second Intifada not by bombing Palestinian towns and neighborhoods and refugee camps, but rather, by methodically and gradually assassinating terror leaders. Back then, we wanted to win.

Remove malignant tumor  

This time around, we don’t want to win. The official Israel does not wish to eliminate Hamas’ regime in Gaza – despite the fact that the entire world, including the Arab world, granted us permission to do it. It even deplored us to do it, as long as we avoid major Palestinian bloodshed. However, we are disappointing them: We caused great bloodshed, yet we do not intend to win. Perhaps because of the upcoming elections; who knows?

When Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was assassinated we expected an earthquake, yet nothing happened. And what was the Arab street’s reaction to the killing of other senior Hamas figures, including those killed during operation Cast Lead? No reaction. Arab citizens watched al-Jazeera and told themselves: “The Israelis are brutal, and Hamas is dumb” – before going back to their own affairs.

We can defeat Hamas and remove it from here. However, the Israeli leadership apparently believes that it’s a good thing to have Hamas rule the Strip. It is good to have a group that does not recognize our existence, and therefore we do not need to talk to it. Our leadership is making a historical error, which may be fateful. A malignant tumor must be removed on time.

The elimination of Hamas and its Gaza regime should have also been a blatant interest of Israel’s dovish Leftist camp, which aspires for a two-state solution. After all, as long as Hamas rules Palestine or parts of it, Israel has nobody to talk to and nothing to talk about. Hamas justifies the occupation and not the other way around.

However, the Israeli Left is also addicted to the false claim that Hamas reflects the true desires of the Palestinian people. The Left also firmly objects to surgical strikes against Hamas leaders. Instead, it recommends that we tame this poisonous snake and convince it to adopt our views.

If we do not defeat Hamas now, but rather, merely “respond wildly” and punish – unintentionally so, but nonetheless – Palestinian civilians, Israelis will be seen as wild creatures who do not belong among civilized nations, and Hamas will emerge victorious.

Who wants to bet things will play out exactly like that? Put some money on the table, people, cause anyone who is paying attention to what's going on, will tell you that this is exactly how it will go down!

Comments

  1. According to SM’s logic…

    It is time to nuke Jordan:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231774436737&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    Jordanian solidier opens fire on Israel

    Fair is fair…right SM?

  2. This post is also ludicrous.

    The Israeli left are willing to cede Judea and Samaria, and make every attempt to do so, including the ‘unilateral withdrawal’ in 2005. And anyway, Hamas and Fatah are flip sides of the same coin. Hamas = Islamist terrorist group. Fatah = Arab nationalist terrorist group. It is not as if Fatah being in power means somehow we can have flowers, puppies, and sugar plums. That is only the illusion that the Israeli (and world) left buys into.

    Israel fights with extreme caution and is not “responding wildly.” If it wanted to wildly fight, I can assure you that far more than 800-900 Palestinians would be dead (most of them Hamas jihadists). It would be fought the way that Egypt fought in Yemen. That is “fighting wildly.” No other country on earth invented a non-lethal bomb specifically designed to scare ‘human shields’ off roofs – no other country but Israel. No other country on earth invented missiles which veer their path based on ‘civilians’ (the term is used loosely, as many are human shields), and a desire to minimize civilian casualty.

    If Israel wanted to “respond wildly,” they would have killed upwards of tens of thousands. We know what such a response is – see Egypt towards Yemen, or Syria towards the Muslim Brotherhood. I could go on.

    The Arab world will hate Israel no matter what. I have attended counter protests against Hamas and saw the violence and hatred firsthand. There have been riots against Israel and Jews all over the world. Yet Ynet thinks there has been no reaction?

    Ynet also ignores the simple fact that Hamas jihadists hide out in refugee camps, using these places as ‘human shields.’ Should safe havens be allowed, simply because ‘human shields’ are used? Doesn’t Israel have a duty to protect its citizens, first and foremost?

    Sandmonkey, you have changed. The posting of this article does not vitiate what you have posted before. Just because an Israeli says something does not make it true. I am unimpressed.

  3. Red Tulips

    “The Arab world will hate Israel no matter what. I have attended counter protests against Hamas and saw the violence and hatred firsthand. There have been riots against Israel and Jews all over the world. Yet Ynet thinks there has been no reaction?”

    I could not have said it better and I have been listening to the hate since I began college in 1969. Heard it straight from the lips of rich little Arab boys who spoke with an ugly racist hatred that about bowled me over backwards…Been hearing it ever since.

  4. Sandmonkey,

    Do you really believe that Fatah can ride into Gaza on an Israeli tank and start governing?

    Israel is not fighting wildly and the shedding of blood is surprisingly low in view of Hamas’ using human shields, booby-trapping homes and so forth.

    I do not see Fatah as a partner for peace either. They have never cleaned up their act. The Palestinians will have to bring forth another leadership. There have been some seeds. Arafat, however, took care to root out all the grassroot developments and Hamas does not look kindly on competition as well.

  5. SAM, the article that you cite appears in Ynet, an Israeli publication yes, and you will find many differing opinions there, Arab-Israeli and Israelis from the entire political spectrum. That is just an opinion.
    Unless Fatah changes its ideology a great deal, I doubt that Fatah would be a peace partner, but they could not likely be as bad for Israel or for the people in Gaza as Hamas has been.
    And, for the record, just because you may have a difference of opinion, it does not follow that you are anti-semitic or anti-Israel.

  6. Abu Sa'ar says:

    Hehehe. Plocker is so Olmertish. That heady combination of incompetence and confidence.

    “…the false claim that Hamas reflects the true desires of the Palestinian people” is a key mistake here. Among many. Hamas truly was – alas – democratically chosen. By a huge majority in Gaza.

    And the current operation can only be considered as “behaving wildly” in comparison to the suicidal flaccidity of the past decade.

  7. e. weisbord says:

    Ynet is aptly named, I often wonder Y they are on the net.

    SM..if you want a real take on the situation, I suggest reading Caroline Glick. She does write for the J. Post, but she also has her own webiste.

  8. Hi SM, i dont think you are anti-israel, i think you are independant and portray Egypts interests, sometimes youre over emotional, but were all humans.

    the sole reason to read your blog ( well, its funny in the no-war days) is that it doesnt have the usual “israel bashing” these blogs usually have.

  9. I’ll just hijack the topic for a second – some might find this information interesting (perhaps the americans with a dim view of Europe out there) and some might not…

    We’ve had quite a few Gaza-related demonstrations around tiny Denmark these last couple of weeks. Most have been pro-palestinian, though a few have supported Israel, which is a rarity (the reasons for this can probably be found in a mix of ethnic origin, social background, political motivation and career-situation). Nearly all of the pro-palestinian demonstrations, though peacefull on the whole, have been tainted by smaller gangs of demonstrators chanting anti-jew and even anti-democracy slogans, throwing rocks at the police, setting fire to cars, and overall not making a particularly good impression…

    http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=116244975225&h=aiVpd&u=n-0rl

    One of the three large newspapers have a some statistics on the average dane’s view of the conflict and of the demonstrations – these are their findings:

    Q: Which side of the israeli-palestinian conflict do you sympathize with the most?
    A: Palestine 22%
    B: Israel 29%
    C: Neither 38%
    D: Don’t know 10%
    The young are more sympathetic to palestine, the old to Israel.

    Q: Which of the two sides do you feel have the responsibility for starting the conflict?
    A: Palestine 31%
    B: Israel 16%
    C: Equal responsibility 38%
    D: Don’t know 15%

    Q: Which of the two sides do you feel has the greatest responsibility in putting an end to the conflict?
    A: Palestine 15%
    B: Israel 16%
    C: Equal responsibility 48%
    D: Don’t know 12%

    Q: Have the pro-palestinian demonstrations in Denmark changed your view of the palestinian side?
    A: More positive 1%
    B: More negative 20%
    C: Unchanged 66%
    D: Don’t know 13%

    Q: Has your general view of the israeli-palestinian relationship changed since the start of the present conflict?
    A: More pro-palestinian 8%
    B: More pro-israeli 7%
    C: Unchanged 72%
    D: Don’t know 13%

  10. Just what exactly are the Palestinians going to offer Israel that would make it worth her while to negotiate with them? Until such time, why would or should the Israeli’s waste their time talking to them?

  11. cubanbob:

    Could “the realization that the palestinians, as well as the israelis, deserve a country they can call their own and we shouldn’t give them any opportunity to claim that we won’t let them have one” qualify…?

    In any case, they certainly could offer a stop to the rockets and suicide bombings…

  12. I.. really don’t get the point. what is it that you’re trying to say?

    anyhow, you should point out that this ynet article is from the ‘personal opinions’ archive, and not an editorial piece.

  13. Adam B.

    “In any case, they certainly could offer a stop to the rockets and suicide bombings…”

    I’m pretty sure that’s been offered before.

    Nadavu

    ” is from the ‘personal opinions’ archive, and not an editorial piece.”

    Can you explain the difference in the two to me?

  14. Well ted, he was asking whether Palistine had anything to offer that would give israel a reason not to attack them. I pointed out that Israel ought to be pretty interested in a peaceful relationship, and thereby hopefully giving him pause in his apparent “kill’em all” mindset. That’s pretty much it… :)

  15. What other conflict get’s this sort of blow-by-blow media exposure? People die in their hundreds in this conflict, but in their hundreds of thousands in other conflicts that get a fraction of the media’s obsession, the UN’s attention, or the public interest

  16. ” # Adam B. Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    cubanbob:

    Could “the realization that the palestinians, as well as the israelis, deserve a country they can call their own and we shouldn’t give them any opportunity to claim that we won’t let them have one” qualify…?

    In any case, they certainly could offer a stop to the rockets and suicide bombings…”

    Another bullshit ceasefire that last about ten minutes before Hamas launches more rockets. They are going to have to do better than that this time. Israelis have their own country. Palestinians have one, its called Jordan. Like I said before they have to make Israel an offer that is interesting to Israel if they want the Israelis to cut them loose. The Palestinians do not have the good hand to deal with. Its rather obvious the rest of the Arab world isn’t going to actually war with Israel to come to their aid. Deal with the realities and not the usual Arab self delusional fantasies.

  17. “Another bullshit ceasefire that last about ten minutes before Hamas launches more rockets. They are going to have to do better than that this time.”

    Agreed, but the palestinians do have more to offer (as I mentioned) than that – the question is will they?