The real Significance of the Obama Presidency

This is an important read, I think! Moneyshot:

But once you come down off of the Civil Rights Movement high, you might actually start to think about what Obama's presidency REALLY means. His office and his job have NOTHING to do with race. His being elected DOES NOT improve race relations in this country or abroad.

In fact, his presidency has already proven that Americans are still STUCK ON STUPID when it comes to cultural and racial sensitivity and tolerance, whether they be Black, White, Brown, or otherwise.

Case in point:

As the inauguration approached, more White and Latino Americans began asking my husband and I if we were excited, if we were "going to party" with "our president", and other paternalistic, foot-in-mouth questions. Am I planning to 'party' with 'my president' on Tuesday? I'm supposed to be excited about this just because I'm Black, with no regard to my values or even my political affiliation? No matter what I stand for, Obama's being Black is supposed to be enough to make me want to party? That's how you see it? Of COURSE that's how they see it, because that's all we project! Then we allow the drive-by media to make it all about race while pretending it's not all about race! Aaaaagh 

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Since Black Americans made this election all about having our first African-American president, please believe that's what his tenure is going to be about. The media played on White guilt while Obama campaigned, being sure to put every proud Black face and African relative the man had on national television. We showed our preoccupation with race, and they showed it to the world (If you don't think this was intentionally done and that it didn't affect any White voters, you are fooling yourself). So, understand that Obama's skin is always going to be in the forefront during his tenure as president, whether you like it or not, and whether people are willing to admit it or not.

So, what does that mean?

* If he makes any huge mistakes (and he will), non-Black Americans will deflect those failures upon Black leadership in general.

* If Black Americans as a whole do not improve their condition during his tenure, Obama will appear to be an exceptional African-American compared to the rest of us ignorant thugs.

* If Hollywood gets too progress-happy, we may see a huge increase in Black characters who are professionals and government officials in television and movies – that's just superficial and annoying to ANYONE who watches it long enough.

* All of the cries of disenfranchisement will be thwarted and considered baseless because if America can elect an African-American president, the playing field must be leveled, right? This isn't good if you are a proponent for Affirmative Action or other special rights for minorities.

* Black History Month will probably bring out the nationalistic tendencies in most of us, causing us to overdo it and put our Blackness in everyone else's face, turning off White Americans who thought that electing an African-American president was about togetherness and the progress of the country as a whole when it was really about us 'having our day in the sun'. This will serve to separate us even more.

* If Obama screws up royally, White Americans won't be voting for another African-American president for a long time, considering that so much emphasis was placed on his being African-American.

Don't get me wrong, people; I understand the historical significance of an African-American president, and it is something that should be celebrated. However, I believe that we were exploited by the Democratic Party and the left-wing media in order to further their own causes, NOT ours! At the end of the day, we play the race card and we make race an issue WAY TOO MUCH, even when we have the right to do so. It's like the football team who discourages end zone dancing – when you have a victory, act like you expected to. When you make your way to success, have some class; act like you've been there before. We can still celebrate progress while having a certain amount of necessary reservation. We want people to treat us as if they are colorblind when we're not. So, when it works in our favor, we're happy. However, when the racially charged beast we helped create comes back to bite us in the butt, who will we blame then?

It's kinda already happening!

Comments

  1. Yes, liberals were played based on their white guilt, and yes any criticism of Obama was repositioned by the medi and (more subtly) the campaign as racism. And, yes, republicans are less susceptible to this play, because they’ve less to prove to themselves after Dr Rice and Gen Powell.

    Even so, if I were black, I suspect I’d feel pretty good about this election. It’s a marker of how far America has come; how much is possible in reality not just in rhetoric.

    But from now on: Obama’s race doesn’t matter a jot. All that counts is his performance, good, bad or indifferent. To me at least. But there again, I’m a conservative. Maybe it’s different for the other guys and for the media.

  2. Why do people refer to him as The BLACK president. He is half-black…just as white as he is black. His black father abandonded him and he was raised by a white grandmother if I recall.

    I guess for some folks…color is a big deal…I prefer truth. He is a mixed race mutt…just like most of us are mutts…so why don’t we just care about if he does a good job or not?

  3. “Even so, if I were black, I suspect I’d feel pretty good about this election. It’s a marker of how far America has come; how much is possible in reality not just in rhetoric.

    But from now on: Obama’s race doesn’t matter a jot. All that counts is his performance, good, bad or indifferent.”

    Pretty much spot on I should say… :)

  4. Yep, if he screws up which I am sure with his inexperince and Jimmy Carter’s stand on most issues he will it will be a very long time before the media will be able to fool so many as they did this time.

    He is a politician they do what is good for them and then try to make you think it is good for you,too. He also comes from the Chicago political machine which is that in overdrive. Incase no one has noticed the stocj mrket has been dropping like a rock sicnbe his swearing in at noon on Tuesday. With corporations expecting tax rates to rise on them most are shedding between 10%-20% of their employees. That means you 20 somethings that voted for him will soon find out what his policies mean to you. Same thing happened in 1976. Welcome to the real world where policies have consequances.

  5. Now that black Americans have the ability to be POTUS, Sec. State (twice), Supreme Court Justice and Hispanics have been Attorney General and many other high ranking officers of the gov’t, when do you think we will abolish affirmative action?
    When whites are a minority…

  6. Speaking of BLACKS, how much has your Sand Negro Ass saved up so far Sandmonkey, by working and living in that no mans land?

    I hope you are not going to hop back into that old hand-me-down beater hat your mom passed off to you, when you get back to Cairo. Try living in style for a change!

    Family deprivation sucks I know, it is a hard cycle to break out of!

  7. To those here who are not just utterly filled with hate…and have some sensitivity to the utter complexities of real life and real-life complications…here is one hell of a story:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232643726282&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  8. I believe that having a “Black” president is truly means advances in race relations and in the acceptance of African Americans in the US. To truly understand the oppression that African Americans faced (and still face to a degree), you only have to go back to the days of the Civil Rights Movement, especially in the late 1960s. African Americans risked their lives by trying to simply sit at the soda fountains, to sip a coke. These areas were reserved for whites. African Americans died trying to break down these barriers. The inspiration of Dr. King could not been silenced, and he left a legacy of hope for all, African Americans, whites—all people. The election of Obama could not have happened just twenty years ago. Of course, millions of Americans did not vote for him, my friend’s African American husband, for one. But even many of those who did not vote for him are now saying, “He is our president and we will support him.” Democracy at work. Time will tell what kind of president he will make, but I am optimistic.
    Babs, my best friend is African American. She has an unusual career combination: Speech therapist and attorney at law. She objects to Affirmative Action on the basis that she would not want a job based on her race. I am not sure how I feel about it, but I think that without it, we would see job discrimination. I am white and totally not worried about anyone taking my job. If that happens, I’ll try to find another one. Might be a good idea anyway. The one that I have is about to make me drink. Anyway, Obama’s presidency is starting off well, in an inspirational way which is effecting people deeply. Friends are taking about immediately volunteering, contributing to worthy causes. We shall see…..

  9. Eva, Canada says:

    Race aside, it was interesting to watch the public orgasm that was Obama’s inauguration. I fully subscribe to Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes acting like virus – that is the only explanation for mass hysteria like for instance the Dutch Tulip Mania, Hitler’s ascent to power, the death of Princess Diana and now the Obamania. Recently I saw a TV interview with a resident of Sderot who encountered Obama during the latter’s visit to Israel. The man said that upon seeing Obama, he knew instantly that this was going to be the man who will end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “I new it,” he said, “I knew it as soon as I saw him!” It seems to me that this is a mental epidemic of world-wide proportion. Mind you, I have nothing against Obama, yet, but it’s downright scary.

  10. “Recently I saw a TV interview with a resident of Sderot who encountered Obama during the latter’s visit to Israel. The man said that upon seeing Obama, he knew instantly that this was going to be the man who will end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “I new it,” he said, “I knew it as soon as I saw him!” It seems to me that this is a mental epidemic of world-wide proportion.”

    Hey, as long as he has the same effect on palestinian arabs, it’s all good!!! ;)

  11. Right now Obama is trying to figure out how he can get elected to a second term. Those falling for the hype are going to be so disappointed…..

  12. Lynne;

    (In regards to affirmative action and preferences to minorities)

    Say you needed to have surgery. Who do you want operating on you? The medical team that is most qualified or most diverse?

    Adam B;

    The same resident was reported to have said that Obama would end the curse of old age :-)

  13. Frenchmanaz says:

    Why can’t people just enjoy the f’ing moment and seriously think with some kind of optimism. To the person that penned Sandmonkey’s piece, you know what we all deal with idiots in this world who run on stereotypes, lest we forget all of the cant dance, can’t sing jokes levied on anyone with white skin. Being French and living in the US you can rest assured that I take my share. The point is that you filter out the idiots from the others.

    Above all I was elated that Obama was elected because he seems like a good guy who wants to accomplish good things and anything is better than the last 8 years. This above all is what the US needed… a breath of fresh air and some semblance of a change in direction. And let’s be clear that the sigh of relief was felt worldwide, which means people of all colors rejoiced.

    There is incredible significance to a black man being given the highest office in the land but why are we not allowed to enjoy the moment for more than 5 minutes before all the negative assholes, including the writer of this piece come out of the wood work and throw some nonesense like assuming every white person is some moron who has some black love thing going on, that the Democratic party used Obama and the black people. Jesus Christ, can it not be that Obama was the strongest candidate and ran a smoking campaign.

    Damned if you don’t and damned if you do !!!!!!! Ridiculous.

    Let’s give this guy a f’ing chance to do his job before all of you armchair quarter back stink up the place all over again. And…. to the lady that wrote the piece, get off of your cynical high horse and understand that, while some white people cannot ever truly appreciate what life has been life with a different skin tone, that many of us genuinely have been waiting for this kind of equality to reach some parts of our land. Does it mean that we have eraced the scurge that is racism from this country or the world, no unfortunately not, but it’s yet another step. There is a long way to go, but how about thinking happy thoughts for the people who genuinely want a better place to live than focus on all of the morons that infest this planet.

  14. Frenchmanaz says:

    Why can’t people just enjoy the f’ing moment and seriously think with some kind of optimism. To the person that penned Sandmonkey’s piece, you know what we all deal with idiots in this world who run on stereotypes, lest we forget all of the cant dance, can’t sing jokes levied on anyone with white skin. Being French and living in the US you can rest assured that I take my share. The point is that you filter out the idiots from the others.

    Above all I was elated that Obama was elected because he seems like a good guy who wants to accomplish good things and anything is better than the last 8 years. This above all is what the US needed… a breath of fresh air and some semblance of a change in direction. And let’s be clear that the sigh of relief was felt worldwide, which means people of all colors rejoiced.

    There is incredible significance to a black man being given the highest office in the land but why are we not allowed to enjoy the moment for more than 5 minutes before all the negative assholes, including the writer of this piece come out of the wood work and throw some nonesense like assuming every white person is some moron who has some black love thing going on, that the Democratic party used Obama and the black people. Jesus Christ, can it not be that Obama was the strongest candidate and ran a smoking campaign.

    Damned if you don’t and damned if you do !!!!!!! Ridiculous.

    Let’s give this guy a f’ing chance to do his job before all of you armchair quarter back stink up the place all over again. And…. to the lady that wrote the piece, get off of your cynical high horse and understand that, while some white people cannot ever truly appreciate what life has been life with a different skin tone, that many of us genuinely have been waiting for this kind of equality to reach some parts of our land. Does it mean that we have eraced the scurge that is racism from this country or the world, no unfortunately not, but it’s yet another step. There is a long way to go, but how about thinking happy thoughts for the people who genuinely want a better place to live and are genuinely rejoicing Obama’s presidency because he might just be a good guy and happens to be black rather than focus on all of the morons that infest this planet.

    Let’s be clear, there are no guarantee with anything in life. So we run on hope. This could work out or it might not but after the last 8 years of misery on this earth, it’s about time to have some optimism.

    You don’t want to be happy…fine, but how you allow the rest of us who are some time to enjoy the moment before you stamp it out and mock those of us who are.

  15. And let’s be clear that the sigh of relief was felt worldwide, which means people of all colors rejoiced.

    They were burning Obama’s picture in Iran. Expect more of that when people of all colors realize he’s not the magical cure to their problems.

  16. Frenchie

    Taody is correct…

    And he is HALF-black

  17. Taody @ 11:

    Taody, good point. Ah, the most qualified. Now I guess I AM sure how I feel about it. Great question!

  18. Eva@ 8

    I do see your point. I myself did not vote for Obama, and I was certainly put off by the biased reporting from the mainstream media, especially the harsh attacks on Sarah Palin. It’s also hard to watch the worshipful way that many of the female news reporters gush over his body and his every word. I’ll admit that he does have charisma. He seems to have a good heart and good values. He has already begun to fulfill campaign promises, but seems to have some degree of difficulty with his vow to have a transparent government, refusing to answer questions that he does not apparently like. He has appointed several questionable people…a lobbyist, for example, which he had said that he would not do.
    He has been inspiring and there is a new mood in the country, so I am trying to be hopeful. Any good sentiments expressed always inspire. I guess we will have to wait and see. . . As you pointed out, the response has been over the top, and it may well be that many people are putting their own hopes and dreams on it. I hope that he turns out to be all that he should be.

  19. Affirmative action is not the best option, but without it, for so many years qualified people were denied jobs. I agree that the best qualified person for the job is the best solution, but what about the cases in the past when the best person was perhaps not considered because of their race or sex? It is just not a clear cut issue. It was created to try to right a wrong.

  20. Eva, Canada says:

    Frenchmanaz, do you have a problem discerning between joy and personality worship, which was what I addressed here? It looks like you do.

  21. Eva, it seems that there is an excess of personality worship, which is unhealthy. In general, most people in the US are not well-informed and have little idea of history or world events. I guess that is true everywhere.

  22. lynne, not so if you ask Craig… ;)

  23. Frenchmanaz says:

    Toady, ok Toady fine, Iran is not happy, there’s a big surprise. However, I could just as easilly point the people in the Middle East who rejoiced at 9/11. Do these people represent the minority or the majority ?? I am pretty sure that sane peace loving Iranians are quite hopeful a new American President who is not going to ignore them is actually a positive step. These are likely people who were not reported on.

    As for Eva Canada, come on, don’t you think this is more than personality worship ? Honestly ! By this you are basically accusing all Americans of being ignorant idiots who don’t know any better. Quite a blanket statement and irresponsible wouldn’t you say ? The name I chose identifies my origins sufficiently that I do not have to defend myself, but as much as I too have my qualms with the global education level of some Americans, I know through experience that there are many who are not as stupid as you seem to think they are. I now hold both passports ( French / American ) and was able to vote and I can assure you that for all of the charisma Obama has, this was not why I voted for him.

    You make it sounds as though Obama is all style no substance. This only shows reverse ignorance. Refusing to truly succomb to the possibility that this man might actually do some good in the world, or at worst reverse some of the misery that has been inflicted on this country by dubya. I personally voted for Obama because of his intelligence and his masterful ability to manage a monumental campaign. I for one am willing to give him a chance to do his job before judging him. Most of the people who did not vote for Obama voted for Bush and you will have to excuse me if I place little value on their ability to judge character.

    The one thing I ask is that you don’t insult me by questioning my understanding between personality worship and joy. This only exudes an air of arrogant superiority. There are any number of reasons to be hopefull about this new president, so instead of pissing all over everyone before this man has had a chance to work, how about you keep quiet for a while and if and when he does something wrong then you can pass judgement. Calling everyone who voted for Obama guilty of personality worship only makes you guilty of assuming you know anything about anyone who made that call.

    I respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. Being Canadian does not make you superior my dear. C’est dommage que l’ont doit supporter des voisins comme ce si =)

    Obama is an intelligent man who happens to be black, but his acceptance as the right man for the job means that we can ALL hope that more racial barriers will drop in the future and that the world can take this as an example of America’s ability to change. There will always be neighsayers but given we live in a democracy I am fortunately taught to believe that the majority leads and the majority of the world is elated that we have new leadership that will be open to new ideas and open to dialogue with even our enemies. How this can be seen as a negative is beyond me.

    As for the issue of race, when a race who has been demeaned for so long in any country is finally vindicated, you will have to forgive me if I assume that everyone in that race finds elation in this. As Chris Rock said not so long ago, when he was confronting this question of people assuming that he would vote for Obama simply because he was a black man, he explained ( paraphrase ) We had that chance with Jesse Jackson and the vote was not unanimous. If Obama was Flavor Flave then he would be insulted but the fact is that Obama is totally qualified and therefore he was not offended when people assumed he was voting for Obama. He took it as a compliment. Obama is exactly the kind of leader any race should be proud to call their own.

  24. Frenchmanaz says:

    Raven, I have to ask about your questioning his transparency. I mean holly shit the guys been in office 4 friggin days. I just happen to be watching CNN and apparently on the 4th day of his presidency Obama’s team has already created a website called recovery.com which is supposed to detail the what’s and how’s. How much transparency do you expect ? You also mention some questionable cabinet choices, how on earth can you or anyone define what these people will do under this completely new leadership, after all, all of these people will be functioning under Obama’s leadership.

    Point being like before, how about allowing at the least the first 100 days to pass before assuming that this is all going to go to hell.

  25. Frenchmanaz, I do agree with you, but what brought it to my mind was the CNN reporting today that he appointed a lobbyist to an appointment (after saying that he would not do so) and then on several occasions refused to answer questions about this apparent contradiction. Actually there have been a few other times when he evaded or refused to answer questions, and that’s ok… I do agree that we must not assume that he will renege on all of his promises. It will take at least 100 days, and probably a good many more before one may adequately judge his presidency. I was just discussing at this point, but not judging but maybe it sounded that way.

  26. What country has this crazy bitch been living in?
    If he makes any huge mistakes (and he will), non-Black Americans will deflect those failures upon Black leadership in general.

    * If Black Americans as a whole do not improve their condition during his tenure, Obama will appear to be an exceptional African-American compared to the rest of us ignorant thugs.

    First of all, when did the black community hold an election for its leaders? My opinion the media since the death of MLK, they have been appointed by by the media and based on my experience as a black person in the USA plenty in the black community have issues with these so-called leaders.

    Any black person who can speak proper english and has a job is considered “different” by many white people. When are we going to stop being so worried about what they think of us?

    * If Hollywood gets too progress-happy, we may see a huge increase in Black characters who are professionals and government officials in television and movies – that’s just superficial and annoying to ANYONE who watches it long enough.

    That argument would be valid if we didn’t have so many black entertainers and athletes perpetuating stereotypes that generally contribute to the idea that we are all thugs and booty-popping whores out to take some mans money.

    * All of the cries of disenfranchisement will be thwarted and considered baseless because if America can elect an African-American president, the playing field must be leveled, right? This isn’t good if you are a proponent for Affirmative Action or other special rights for minorities.

    No one has to work too damned hard to disenfranchise us. How many black people did I see on TV standing election day proudly proclaiming this is the first time they voted? My thought, that is fucking pathetic, people literally died for our right to vote and your proud of yourself?

    * Black History Month will probably bring out the nationalistic tendencies in most of us, causing us to overdo it and put our Blackness in everyone else’s face, turning off White Americans who thought that electing an African-American president was about togetherness and the progress of the country as a whole when it was really about us ‘having our day in the sun’. This will serve to separate us even more.

    First of all to be nationalistic you have to have a nation. We don’t. Unless you are in a public school or have a child in one, the average African Americans participation in Black History Month extends too watching all the specials and black themed movies TV drags out of its vaults every February.

    * If Obama screws up royally, White Americans won’t be voting for another African-American president for a long time, considering that so much emphasis was placed on his being African-American.

    That may be true but these are the same people that voted George Bush in not once but twice. And how can you make this statement and talk about the race card. This is nothing but the race card. Any black person that runs deserves the presidency, because he is black?

    All that said I had my happy moment in the sun on Tuesday. But honestly, it was a victory for white America as much as ours. Maybe, just maybe our opinion of them was too low. They proved, that perhaps they have grown and are not as racist as we might think. Does that mean race is not a factor in this country from now on…hell no, economic downturns often result in an increase in pathological behavior. In the US that generally means an increase in white supremacist activity that having a black president will likely enhance. I can hear the argument now, he is all for the black man, giving them all that welfare.

    In the end, we face serious issues in this country. Issues like TV suddenly embracing black people and all that really pales in comparison.

  27. Jaislo, you said that Obama’s being elected is a victory for white America as well as for Black America, and I believe that is certainly true. It is part of Dr. Martin Luther King’s legacy —the steady improvement in the thinking and behavior of White Americans toward African Americans. Obama’s election represents growth and improvement of the US, moving toward those values so clearly stated in the constitution (but ignored for many years). It is extremely significant that he was able to run for president and that he, a Black man, was elected. The people that I know who voted for him were absolutely inspired and nearly carried away by his promise and his charisma. Many people have been feeling alienated by US politics, and now see Obama as the opportunity to return to the values that many in America hold dear. There is an element of hero-worship, which may be interpreted as desperation of the people who have not felt that any of the US political leaders represented their beliefs and values. Many of the people in the US are not well-informed and may have unrealistic expectations– unhealthy expectations. There are too many Americans who do not understand the myriad of factors that effect economics and foreign politics. They may expect miracles, but we need to be satisfied with solid, positive improvement. That would be enough for me, especially considering the leaders we have had in the past.
    I am choosing to believe (until I am shown differently) that Obama’s presidency will be a vast improvement over those who have been president in my lifetime. I have been inspired by his message and his actions, and I am cautiously hopeful.
    I read that Obama will be guarded more closely than any other president in history, and that is a good thing. We have had assassinations in this country, and as you state, there will likely be an increase in the activities of those white supremacists maniacs. Everyone I know has expressed this fear. You are right; economic downturns make people start looking for a scapegoat; it has already started happening. Obama’s election means that we have come too far to ever regress to the racial discrimination of the past, no matter what his performance as president. We cannot allow ourselves to think that way.
    Obama is a man of mixed race. He represents to me a signal that we need to stop thinking of “them and us”–to stop looking at race, religion, etc. and those other categories which divide us. I believe that will be part of his legacy.

  28. Frenchmanaz says:

    Lynne, you make a very good point here ” Obama’s election means that we have come too far to ever regress to the racial discrimination of the past, no matter what his performance as president. We cannot allow ourselves to think that way. ”

    However the most poignant part of that statement refers to no matter how Obama performs as President, because if we are going to tie race to a Presidents performance then those of us that are white should never be allowed to set foot in the oval office again after the last 8 years.

    The day we have reached the promised land is the day that we no longer see the color of a man’s skin and judge him / her solely on their merits.

    I may find myself corrected but to my knowledge America is the first Western nation to put a man of color at the very top of the countries political system. This puts America back in a position of being a beacon of hope once again. By any measure, no matter what nation or education system, Obama is a highly intelligent man with the kind of drive and ambition most of us could only dream of posessing.

    After the last 8 years of watching this nation’s President make fools of America in the eyes of the world, I think we can cut this new President a little slack, even if he makes some errors and is put in a position because of unforseen circumstances, is unable to fulfill every campaign promise.

    As for his possibly evading questions from the press, let’s please be clear that until one is actually President they cannot be 100% sure of what they will and will not be allowed to say to the world. I am willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he wants completely transparency but it reasonable to expect that certain things simply cannot be said.

    Who knows one day we might just have a Chinese or Arab American in the White House. I won’t hold my breath but one can dream no ?

    For now the best way to help this country back on it’s feet is to let the man do his job and give him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully no one was expecting the messiah, because we are talking about a man and one with obvious ambitions.

    I for one am elated, because not only have we crossed this one racial barrier but finally after 8 long years I can finally be proud of my American passport. That alone was worth the price of admission.

  29. Eva, Canada says:

    # 25:

    Lynne, yours has been so far the best contribution. I completely agree with you. My concern is with the Obama worship not only in the US but around the world. Things will not suddenly get better by enthusiasm alone and that’s what many, among them Frenchmanaz, tend to believe. In fact, enthusiasm is to be feared because it is uncritical. History is full of enthusiastic misdeeds from the Bolsheviks in Russia to Nazi Germany, to Red Guards in China, to suicidal bombers and Hamas martyrs. So as far as Obama is concerned, I wish him well while hoping that cool heads will prevail. He is a man of whom much is expected and he is only human.

    And now to Frenchmanaz who said: C’est dommage que l’ont doit supporter des voisins comme ce si.

    Now I really have a beef with you, mon ami!

    First of all, for a Frenchman your spelling is very odd (ce si?). Second, Canada is the best neighbor any country can hope for. Would you rather have another Mexico on your North border? Drug cartels, anyone? Illegal immigrants? How about a kidnapping enhanced with a beheading? No? So please ferme ta gueule, minable grenouille!

  30. Eva, thank you for your kind words. We tend to talk about such emotional issues on this blog that we may not express ourselves well and may be misunderstood. At times, we end up being bombastic and uncivil which does not promote dialogue. My friend read SM’s blog for the first time last week (she is a childhood friend who stayed with me while attending a conference) and she was livid at some of the comments that were made and she made a few rather strong comments herself!). I doubt that she will be checking out SM’s blog on her own; I don’t think that she has the nerves for it :) I think that if we were all sitting in a coffee house having the same discussion, things would not get out of hand and that we would all find that we agree more than disagree.
    Yes, Obama enthusiasm is worldwide and I can see why. The world has a long history of oppression and Obama’s election represents change and hope. But as you point out, blind hero worship is dangerous for the reasons that you point out. I thought that the comments from some of the female news reporters about his looks, his hot body, etc. were silly and undignified.
    As Frenchmanaz points out, it is impossible to feel good about your country when there is racial discrimination and economic oppression. I hope those days are over.
    Obama is starting out well and he has been inspirational. His performance will be scrutinized closely by the entire world. Times are so troubling that we all hope that he will make a change. You make this point very clearly and I think that readers here may not have understood it.

  31. Eva, I meant to also say that Canada is a great neighbor! My nephew is going to school at the UBC and he loves it.

  32. Its already happening … the media piece

    We see more african-americans subtly pushed onto anchor jobs, or in front of the camera or …

    I voted against Obama, because he reminded me of everything bad about Jimmy Carter’s days. He is going to make the same mistakes as Carter, is on the same trajectory of failed foreign and domestic policies as both Carter and Clinton. His economic policies are going to bankrupt this country and screw up the world economy even worse than it is now. His social policies are somewhat to the left of what you might call rampant socialism.

    Understand that there are some very bright, very capable african-americans out there in the political business scene. A point that I want to drive home is that his skin color had nothing to do with my vote for/against. His middle name made no difference, though I thought that he should have quashed the whole birth certificate nonsense earlier on. His religious upbringing made little difference, though his current church affiliation made me take pause. I would as much like a white supremacist in the white house as I would like any other supremacist, which is to say, I don’t want such idiots around.

    What I do care about, security, economics, WoT, he was exceptionally weak on. His choices since then have only confirmed my worst fears as to his direction, and I am hoping that we can survive the remaining 1456 days of his presidency as an intact nation with no major terror attack, and no further economic meltdown.

    I want to emphasize that his likely failure won’t dissuade me from voting for african-americans to high office. I do not believe that skin color, which is due to a small specific set of genes being activated to generate coloration proteins and material, matters in the least to someone’s decision making capability. I do believe that past history of decision making is a reasonably good predictor of future history of decision making. And this is what he hid from us.

    I don’t care that Barak Hussein Obama is black. I won’t hold his likely failure against others of his race, religion. I do care that he is a socialist, naive to the point of being an imbecile on economic issues, completely unaware of the repercussions of his WoT and military decisions.

    Thats why he won’t likely get my vote next time either. Unless he pulls an economic miracle out of his hat, convinces the Palestinians to actually do something smart for a change and try to build a freaking country already, instead of attacking their neighbor, and manages to tamp down the Iranian ambition to be more than a bit player on the world stage.

    But his policies are make-work for the economy, enabling the Palestinians to yet again not miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and talk to the midget in Tehran thus giving him credibility.

    Oh well.

  33. Kranky, I don’t believe that Obama is much like Carter, at least I hope not.
    Obama is assembling a promising cabinet, though I don’t much like his choice of Hilary Clinton. He has inspired many to do more than complain. He is strongly promoting volunteer activities and tolerance, celebrating diversity. All of that is very promising. The issues he faces are extremely complex…

  34. Kranky 32:

    “His social policies are somewhat to the left of what you might call rampant socialism.”

    Lol! :D

    You have NO idea what you’re talking about!!! Come over here across the pond for half a year or so, and you’ll see! The man would be considered a far right winger here…

  35. Frenchmanaz says:

    Eva Canada,

    Bien jouer, j’avoue mon erreur. Malgre le fait que j’ai bein mon passport Francais, et que le Francais etais ma premiere langue, apres avoir passer 25 ans en Asie et les autres 18 ans aux US’s, meme avec toutes les vacances d’ete passer en Provence, j’avoue que j’ai perdue une partie de mon Francais ecrit. C’est marrant que quand je composer cette petite zinger, une petite oiseau dans ma tete me disait que c’etais pas correct, mais j’etais absorbe par le sujet, en question et cella a pris precedence. De toute maniere, entre mes erreurs ecrit et votre accent Canadienne je pense que nous sommes egal =)

    Let’s be clear who insulted who first. You made accusations that I was not able to distinguish between joy and personality worship ( it might have been formed in the way of a question but let’s not split hairs here ) and your insinutation that basically all American’s were unable to make this distinction.

    The only conclusion I can draw from this statement is that you somehow feel superior to myself and the Americans that voted for Obama. That none in this country could see beyond the adulation. That we would have elected a baboon in a tuxedo, if he danced around on stage and whistled the national anthem out of his red ass to perfection. I am sure you can see how this might ruffle some feathers.

    In the not so distant past I admit to my own prejudices towards the majority of American’s because they voted for Bush twice, but everyone is entitled to a refresh and for the first time in a very long time, it is nice to be proud about my maternal heritage again.

    All neighboring countries have their disagreements and feel a sense of arrogance, but to write off an entire nations decision to elect Obama as personality worship is just rude.

    As for Mexico vs Canada, while as you clarify this neighbor does comes with all kinds of complex problems, however, in their defense, at least as it pertains to illegal immigration and while I am a strong believer in much stronger border control, there is something to be said for living in a country that your neighbors are literally risking their lives to get into. This would indicate that this country is respected and seen in a positive light by many of our Mexican voisins. While the drug wars are a horror, let’s be clear that it America wasn’t such a massive consumer, then these drug lords would fade from our borders. As one of these consumers I must take a part of the blame.

    I have nothing against Canada and in fact, because a part of Canada’s close ties to my paternal heritage, I actually feel a strong kinship to Canadiens, but given your ” insult ” was directed at first myself and then at Americans at large, I felt the need to respond to your sense of superiority. Although I will not qualify myself as someone particularly versed on Canadian politics, I am quite sure without much effort I could dig up all kinds of flaws within Primse Minister Harper’s stewardship of Canada, so no politician is without his or her flaws.

    Yes President Obama is charismatic and well spoken. Some of the shock we have all been experiencing is a result of the incredible difference between the competence we see now and the lack thereof with our last president. Maybe the bar was set very low, but let’s be clear that Obama did not win this without effort or proof of his competence.

    To insult the majority in a nation by insinuating that we are all too stupid to see that Obama’s is nothing more than an empty suit is arrogant and patronizing, so please don’t be surprised if you piss off some people who chose Obama to lead their nation.

  36. Jaislo..

    He’s half-black

  37. “I have nothing against Canada and in fact”

    What is he blabbering aboot?

  38. Tedders…

    “ayy?”

  39. ;)

  40. @33 Lynne

    I wouldn’t call Obama’s cabinet “impressive” by any measure. It has a bunch of Clintonian (Clenus) flunkies.

    Some of the most egregious mistakes Clinton made were in relaxing the mortgage rules in 1998. Made loans much easier to get. Any correlation with today’s economic issues? Yeah … a bit …

    Just remember that as the same people who brought us this are sitting around Obama’s economic table trying to “fix” it. They screwed up, screwed us (all of us, in a global collective sense), and now they have the reigns of power again. And this makes you feel better … does it?

    Obama hired George Mitchell who, after “solving” the problem in Ireland (though there are many who beg to differ, and offer up scathing views of his involvement), is being missioned to solve the palestinian problem. Mitchell and all the democrats make the same basic, fundamental error. They all believe that this is a) about land, b) solvable with two states living side by side in peace, and c) there is a formula involving forcing Israel to give up land to create peace. Since Oslo, we have a confirmation that point “c” is fundamentally incorrect. Israel has been attacked from every bit of land they have ever given up or “returned”. So policies that are fundamentally based upon the premise of exchanging land for peace are broken. Most Israeli’s recognize this, and are going to make their intentions plain about this at the next election. Kadima is doomed. Point “b” is true only if both sides want peace. This has not been demonstrated to be true, as one side continuously demonizes the other in its press, sermons, … . Point “a” is one the democrats simply don’t get. It was never about land. Otherwise, there would have been no attacks on Israel prior to 1967. Or on Jews in Israel/Palestine before 1948. The Hebron attacks of 1929, the riots from 1936-1939 and many other instances aren’t explainable using “its about land” … because, at a fundamental level it isn’t about land. It is about existance.

    And this is what the democrats, and the people that Obama have hired … Dennis Ross, Martyn Indyk, George Mitchell, … don’t or won’t understand.

    There is a fairly sizeable majority of people whom have accepted the fact that this is an unfinished war of liberation, that must be allowed to be finished. One side must accept defeat to allow conditions for peace to emerge. They were emerging prior to Oslo.

    Not a popular viewpoint here I think.

  41. What aboot moving the Palestinians to Canada…ayy?

  42. “Not a popular viewpoint here I think.”

    But seemingly correct.

  43. Kranky, well, I was glad that he kept Gates… the points that you raise are worrisome (but accurate). Maybe after these folks give it a try and see the results, they will shift their viewpoints! Yes, you are absolutely correct about Clinton’s being greatly responsible for the mortgage crisis in the US. It just took a while for it to fall apart. Well, some of the choices Obama is making seem ok. It is a matter of wait and see and hope for the best, I think. I still think that it is a significant improvement that he (as a Black man) was elected president. Improvement in tolerance and acceptance for our African Americans has been an issue that I have been concerned about all my life. Any improvement is welcome. As to the rest… let’s hope.

  44. Lynne

    “I still think that it is a significant improvement that he (as a Black man) was elected president”

    Half-black

  45. Half-white

  46. Whatever. Half-black/half white is good :)

  47. ayy

    Just what I was talking aboot…

    Let’s see what the dude can do and I frankly don’t give a rat’s ass about his color…

    So far…I see Clintonisms, a lot of predictable Left-leaning actions already…not torture, close Gitmo, diplomacy with Iran, spend a bunch of money to save the economy…I don’t see him as having any experience….obviously he is very smart…

    I still think presidents get a lot more credit and blame than they deserve…outside events, things out of their control…play big parts…easy to sit back after the

  48. Of course it is. I’m just being silly Lynne!! ;)

  49. Eva, Canada says:

    …What aboot moving the Palestinians to Canada…ayy?”

    Hmm, let me think about it…. No, thanks!

  50. Eva, Canada says:

    # 35

    Frenchmanaz, now that we have both ventilated our grievances, I propose peace or at least a cease-fire. Agreed?

  51. Eva…

    I don’t think you need to make peace with Frenchy…you guys had a pretty fair debate and I did not see it turn into the common name-calling and all that…just a bit of passion…

    Nothing to get excited aboot

  52. Eva…

    In fact…I think you and Frenchy should get a room. I hear the French are wonderful lovers…in spite of their extraordinarily small male parts.

    ;)

  53. Frenchmanaz says:

    Eva Canada, Cease Fire now in effect =) A la prochaine ! Howie no small parts here mon ami, but you are correct on the first part =) Salut !

  54. Frenchy..

    “Howie no small parts here mon ami,”

    Not according to what Sand Ape has said.

  55. LOL!!! Never a dull moment on this blog!!

  56. Frenchmanaz says:

    Howie,

    To preface I am just having a little fun here.

    My first question …. is Sand Ape a women or a man ?

    The name comes off as male, in which case, I have to wonder what team he is playing for because if he is an expert on French male anatomy, then he is spending way too much time in the shower rooms at his local French Embassy.

    If Sand Ape is actually a women then the only conclusion I can draw is that she is a real skank ho. If she has bedded so many French men that she can make such a blanket statement about how we are endowed then I might have to question if it might not be simply a case of her flower being so loose that even a sequoia tree might not be big enough to satisfy her, let alone the third leg of any Frenchmen.

    Either way something is obviously not right in the land of Sand Ape, because if he or she is calling themselves an expert in the male anatomy of the members of any nation then he or she needs to get out of the house a little more.

    Having said all of this one has to say that stating that french men are said to be wonderful lovers but they all have small packages is kind of an oxymoron, no ?

    I am off to make love to my 10 wifes at the same time.

    A la prochaine !

  57. 10 wives?

    You are either Muslim or Mormon?

    10 wow…best I could ever do was 9…all bored wives of Frenchmen.

  58. 10 wives? Are all of their names Sybil?

  59. Frenchmanaz says:

    Howie, if I were Muslim, I would have set myself off a long time ago, who wouldn’t for 72 virgins, although I must admit to being partial to women with a little more experience. I remember the guilt I felt when being told by a girl I met in college who explained that I would be her first. Multiply that guilt by 72 and I would have to call my doc for a Prozac prescritption.

    Mormon ? Please man, have you seen those women ?? Although if you have seen the show Big Love, then it might be different but typically Mormon women dress like they come from central casting on the Little House on the Prairie set. Don’t expect that nice landing strip found on most ladies today, but rather having to hatchet ones way through the black forest before getting to the goods.

    I say NON, mes amis.

    Howie I don’t believe your wives were actually bored, but rather exhausted. There is something to be said for too much of a good thing. At some point, women get bored and opt for the good old 15 second American puritanical sex. Women can find it cute when asked ” where does it go ? ” Problem with American men is that they think it’s all about them !

    At some point, though, she will get tire of your football shaped phone, your odour of Eau de cheetos, Doritos and Michelob and finally go back to her passionate French lover.

    It’s innevitable =)

  60. Frenchy…

    For sure they weren’t exhausted…at least not from shaving their legs and armpits.

    And that’s SIXTEEN seconds…

    Don’t push it.

  61. I’m with you Howie!

    It was the most frantic 16 seconds of her life!!! LOL

  62. Tedders…

    It took 16 seconds because I just wanted to get it over with.

  63. Frenchy…

    “At some point, though, she will get tire of your football shaped phone, your odour of Eau de cheetos, Doritos and Michelob and finally go back to her passionate French lover.”

    Yes…I am sure you woo them with your red and pink color arrangement in your bedroom…your cute little imitations Marcelle Marsueau and Murice Chavallier (or however you bitches mispell Latin characters to get you funny little accent going…oui…its WEE…you get that fucker?). I bet you just giggle together when your French honey comes back from her yearly trip to the BARBER shop to get the money hair plowed off her legs and armpits…

    And when she asks you “where to put it”…I am sure your reply will be in your cute little GAY French accent “the same place I put it in all my men, but of course”. Wee wee?

    And the only reason you “make love” to these women for so long is because of your stinking French erectile disfunction and genetically low levels of testosterone…

    Go have a CREWSONT and some FRENCH Fries…and that is the why it SHOULD be spelled. Oh…but of course

    Wee wee…perfect name for a French male part.

    Now hand me my damn football shaped phone so I can order a freakin pizza and some Budwieser…I have to start trying for the Super Bowl while you ready yourself for the ballet…and its BALAY!

  64. Frenchmanaz says:

    Howie….lol ! Problem is that your French stereotypes are old and tired, like our women don’t shave. Have you seen some of the hotties coming out of our fine nation these days, mon ami ? Whereas, the stereotypes of the old US male are right up to date. Yard apes, 2+2=5, DOH ! =)

  65. Have you seen some of the hotties coming out of our fine nation these days, mon ami

    You mean all the one’s that are half-German because you guys open the gates to the Nazis before we had to come over and save your asses?

    Sterotypes? Stereotypes?

    I am a journalist and merely report the truth.

    Hmmm…I need a good drink.. let me get some of that fine French shit…

    BARTENDER!…Give me a pitcher of some of that Millure du Draft!!!

    ah..oui oui…