On the Lost God of Palestine

His name is Pales, and the entire country is named after him, and he was celebrated by both the jews and the cananites (arab grandparents) of the time. And check this out, he was a Bi-sexual Ass-God (Ass meaning Donkey, of course).

Pales was also the name of the "Ass-God" of ancient Cannan, and Babylon where the ass-god was known as Set. Pales was a playful, bisexual deity, having the reproductive organs of both men and women. The references to the god and his/her cult can be found all over the biblical and ancient world– Samson slew the Philistines with the jawbone of an ass. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an Ass, and early images of the Hebrew Messiah show a man with an ass head crucified to a tree. Palestine is named for the god. The Festival of Palilia was appropriated by the Christian calendar into the Feast of St. George.

More on it here.

Comments

  1. the AMIR OF QATAR’S SON WORSHIPS A DIFFERENT ASS GOD LOL.

  2. “cananites (arab grandparents) of the time”

    Heard of it few times, never seen actual proof of it though.

  3. Well, Wikipedia says it, so it must be true. I learned something new today. I had no idea Canaan was really spelled “Cannan”.

  4. Roman Kalik says:

    *shakes head* And this is why I don’t like Wikipedia – any ass can edit it.

    Pales was just a minor deity of the Roman pantheon – nothing to do with the Egyptian Set, vague references to Canaanite and Babylonian deities that didn’t actually exist, and donkey bones… heck, even most of the donkey pieces references are fictional. I just wonder if they were invented by the editor of that wiki article, or did they originally feature in Tom Robbins’ Skinny Legs and All.

  5. “cananites (arab grandparents)”

    Not really.

    That’s like saying that ancient Egyptians or Numidians are “Arab grandparents”. It’s true in the sense that their descendants eventually took up the Arab identity after being under Arab Muslim rule for a long time, yes. But they weren’t Arabs.

  6. oh george you have one of those racial purity axes to grind…

  7. Nah, you misunderstand. I don’t even believe there is such a thing as race when it comes to humans. Racial theory is unscientific garbage.

    However, for the same cultural and historic reasons why the ancient groups I mentioned (and many others) aren’t seen as an ancient form of Arabs, neither should the ancient Canaanite peoples.

  8. Abu Sa'ar says:

    RK – they were invented by Mr. Robbins.

    The name Palestine derives from Hebrew Peleshet – “Invaderland”. This is after Pleshtim (“invaders” in Hebrew, from root PLSHT), Anglicized as Philistines. To the best of my memory, these invaders (originally from Greece and surrounding islands) had their asses (so to speak) kicked by Ramses III.

    The name “Palestine” (or rather, Syria Palaestina) was given by Romans to the land of the Jews (Yehuda, Shomron, Edom, Galil and the coastal areas thereof – roughly the territory of modern-day Israel) when Jews lost in the Second Jewish-Roman War in 135. The idea was to add insult to genocide (most of the population was massacred or sold to slavery) by erasing the memory of the Jews. They even tried renaming Jerusalem as “Aelia Capitolina”, but fortunately it didn’t catch on.

  9. oh well, Sam – it was a nice thought… :)

  10. Now I get it…

    Well…it is clear all this fighting has been for nothing…The Jews and the Palestinians should be fighting over

    Pales Verdes

    And who could blame them?

  11. ana tafengi says:

    Sandmonkey, here’s a video you might find interesting. An Arab woman blasting the Muslim world on a slew of issues: terrorism, clash of civilizations, treatment of women etc. Not sure if someone by now has issued a death fatwa on her.
    http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=nul

  12. Sa’ar

    You mean it is call Jerusalem…

    And for all those years I thought I was living in Aelia Capitolina…right near Agripas St. I mean…it made sense to me.

  13. i luv egypt says:

    wanna see a trippi saudi talkin about his dad bein a dictato check out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVN3fARhHOU

    u hav to c him

  14. Actually, that sounds like my kind of religion.

  15. Eva, Canada says:

    #11: Why, that’s good old Wafa Sultan! Of course, she is on the hit list just as much as Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Both have loads of courage.

  16. Thanks SM for your insight and wisdom.
    I’m not being sarcastic either.
    I don’t “enjoy” reading your posts, but I am learning what is difficult to see.
    You are very valuable to this world

  17. LOL @ the latent Beastality of it all and especially the Jewish propensity to worship 4 legged animals all through out history!

    “Pales, the entire country is named after him, and he was celebrated by both the jews and the cananites.”

    Are these the same Jews that worshipped the Golden calf? Is it just me or are Jews heavily into animal worship? Is that why they gor the fashionable name – “lost tribe of Israel?”

    Sounds strange to me that a chosen peole could turn into such assholes!

    I know all about freedom of religion and freedom of expression and all, but this, please….!

  18. i luv egypt says:

    Israel censors reporters from certain footages! I thought there was freedom of speech in Israel, one video was shown and God knows how many were confisticated. Watch it now

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0

    Israel is so powerful its censors vdieos on youtube watch this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0

    p.s. sorry SM for using ur blog like its mine, 3adi kolina masryeen ba2a 3adeeha ya prince lol

  19. i luv egypt says:

    Ay watch how they treat a 7 year old palas

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfXvUQXJlg

    And Now look how a “female” Israeli soldier treat kids, please no excuses such as she is on her period and she sufferd nazi Germany.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bdbA2Ka3Bo

    This one just fuckes up humanity: They shot a blind folded hand tied teenage in the leg with the presence of high luitent.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvwvxA9tgH4

    Look at the Israeli youth what he has to say about Christianity. Calling Christians nazis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIti-uFUo

    Here is a Jewish settler terrorising a palastenian mother and calling her WHORE commanding her not get outside her house and stay in her cage. Plus her children help her by spitting, throwing stones wat eva jews are good at .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0o_07BBk0

    These are the only vids that were filmed due to Israel’s censorship! God know how many similiar incident occur

  20. Baffled — Baffled — baffled !!

    How is Israel so morally depraved??

    Where do they come from, another planet or something?

    i luv egypt, watch, they will be removed within 72 hrs.

    Go to http://www.downloadyoutubevideos.com/ and save these videos if you are smart!

  21. i luv egypt says:

    I will download em

  22. i luv egypt says:

    ay i also found out, wait dis is funny; remember the Syrian shows where they showed Jews drinking blood sacrificed babies, FUCKING HELL turns out to be true, this is a funny world!!

    Watch this —-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8RHl1KdM0w

    By the way if you have realplayer you can download any video online,

  23. Sand ape- I’ve been reading your comments for the past few days. If I knew how to, I’d inform the authorities so they would strip you off your american citizenship. France has started dealing in this way and I hope the rest of the western world follows suit.

  24. i luv egypt.

    Well, what’s to say…? Some of your vids show soldiers behaving badly (kid getting beat up), some are so vague that it’s hard to discern what is going on (kids on the cart), and some look plain staged, at least tampered with (kid getting shot).

    Most people are not going to say that jewish soldiers are angels, that they commit no crimes, and that they always treat their opponents with respect and kindness… Sorry, it’s a war, and the people they’re up against have not only shown great hostility and hatred towards them; they actually demand their total destruction. That kind of attitude does something to you.

    There is no excuse for civilized soldiers behaving badly, except to point to the extreme condition they’re in, otherwise known as war. If someone is caught breaking the law, they should be punished, and this is usually what happens to western soldiers – we don’t like it when “our boys” behave badly!

    Others should, however, be very careful about pointing to others’ relatively minor trangressions, when much, much worse is the order of the day for their own…! Let’s sit down for a second and consider what would have happened in those situations had the roles been reversed… Would a 7 year old jewish kid have been whacked on the head by armed palestinians? Chances are he’d be dead with a cut throat by the end of the vid.

  25. i luv egypt says:

    @ anon;

    Wow the Western world embrace freedom of speech and invaided Iraq and caused the death of 1 million iraqis and displace 5 million, yet they will threaten people like Sand Ape if he attempts to comment on a blog that states “freedom Zone’ clearly. Man if hypocracy was chocolate, the world’s population would be an obese one… Well look at the bright side sand Ape, you wouldnt be sent to Guantana for expressiong ur ideas, they will just take away ur citizenship. Accourding anon, freedom of speech is “unamerican’.

  26. i luv egypt says:

    Maaaaan Adam i am disappointed. I thought you will agree on their bad behavoir but instead you are in denial, totally rejecting the fact that Israeli do such things! staged??? cmon man!!! wtf .Most people fimling that are non locals, beating of the kid was a chinese channel others were human right activist. Listen to the one where the Israeli female soldier hits and spits on the kids for no fucking reason; the camera man says “Jesus Christ!!” Thas no staged scene! Man locals are not that smart to stage events like America, remember 1st day in Iraq and man on moon. cmon bro u for real??!!

    So the IDF is at war, are they at war with Hamas or a fucking little kid??? Adam dont forget the censorship, so these vids are obviously samples of other shit that has been commited. What about the drunk kids calling christians Nazis and teling them they killed Jesus. Man them settlers disgust me to be honest i never knew they were like that. You know what jews commented on the vids, they are like good going jews, wipe off them terrorist. Man where is the humanity!! Now i really hate Hitler! Made a whole race fucked in the head and our young kids have to pay the price. Filthy jews i swear to God. I dont know how can some religion be so bad, thats no one guy like bin laden to mUslim. All settlers!

  27. i luv egypt, if you don’t like how the western world functions then stop taking their money, using their goods and go back to your homeland which values you just higher than a piece of trash.

  28. i luv egypt:

    I agree that bad behavior is unacceptable and should be punished appropriately when proven.

    In the case of the kid getting whacked on his head, the soldiers are out of line and should be reprimanded.

    In the case of the kids on the cart, I have no idea what’s going on. If, as the vid tries to indicate, one of the guards spits after the kids, this too should be reprimanded.

    In both of these two cases, the perpetrations are rather minor, particularly when viewed on the backdrop, namely a conflict with an enemy that does not shy away from hiding behind civilians or even using civilians in their stated attempt to not only combat the enemy but wipe them from the face of the earth. The fact that the camera man says “jesus christ” because he sees someone in a ME conflict spitting at their advesary shows that he’s either very biased or extremely green. He probably hasn’t seen the remains of soldiers blown up by suicide bombers yet…

    As for the kid getting shot, I couldn’t say what’s going on. The camera visibly clips as the shot goes off. Are these IDF soldiers? I can’t tell… Do they actually shoot? I can’t tell… Who are the others standing over the kid after the clip? I can’t tell…

    I didn’t see the vid with the drunken kid calling christians nazis – it wouldn’t really upset me, as I see worse behaviour even on this blog every day…! As with all people – if religion becomes too big a part of your life, you’ve pretty much screwed your mind.

    I usually take all these “fact” videos with a grain of salt – they’re rarely what they’re cracked up to be. I’d advise you to do the same, but your comment on the moon landings show that you’re probably beyond help already… :D

  29. i luv egypt. 25:

    “Wow the Western world embrace freedom of speech and invaided Iraq and caused the death of 1 million iraqis and displace 5 million”

    Ah no, the west didn’t do that… The muslims did that to each other.

    By the way, I wasn’t aware that anon represented the entire western world…!?!?

  30. i luv egypt says:

    So how does the Western world function? You tell me so i can adopt, of course not in general but in terms of freedom of speech. Such as the case with Sand Ape…Tell us what do you think of freedom of speech its limitations…..I mean accourding to the Western world, the Danish were practising their freedom of speech by mocking the prophet Mohamed PBUH the most sacred man to 1.3 BILLION people. So i doubt that Sand Ape did worse than that!!!

    By the anon, if ill give u back ur goods give me back my numbers we gave it to yall. Then we can traded back with the indians. I also want that glass on ur monitor cuz we also invented it.

  31. i luv egypt

    It is futile to argue with these guys man.

    They are Zionists dude…lol!!

    That is worse than a swear word for Christ’s sake!

    10 times worse than being called a south African in the 80′s, if you were around tback hen!

    Don’t you know that Zionism is an incurable sickness of the mind!!

    Indeed, to deny the existence of a vibrant community such as the Palestinian society in the early twentieth century and describe Palestine as “a land without a people for a people without a land” is a disease of the mind.

    To assert property claims over real estate after the lapse of more than 2000 years with the same certainty of title as if one resided there yesterday is a disease of the mind.

    To blame the Palestinians for being unreasonable in rejecting a partition plan in 1947 which gave the Jews, who only owned 7 percent of the land, an astonishing half of Palestine, is a disease of the mind.

    To demand of the Arabs at the time to peacefully succumb to such partition, where 86 percent of the land designated for the proposed Jewish state was Palestinian-inhabited and owned land, is a disease of the mind.

    Zionism is a sickness, for it takes much more than just a twisted ideology to make people think like that. It requires a profound leap of immorality of a higher order to instill this mentality in your followers. Zionism is not merely a political movement, but in its essence represents a deeply disturbed view of the world, which is a reflection of a terrible disease of the mind.

  32. i luv egypt says:

    Adam u remember the 1st vid of the man on moon where it was staged, when they had a flag flapping all around like it was a windy day! The second was true but the first one. Its all good iran did the same with their rocket expo

  33. anon,

    You ass-wipe!

    Eat your heart out douche-bag!

    “If I knew how to, I’d inform the authorities so they would strip you off your American citizenship.”

    I am a 3rd generation American tinker bell!!

    Meaning I am more American than Barack Fucking Obama!!

    So good luck on trying to call any authorities besides God because it aint ever going to happen in this life!!

    Get a life already!!

  34. i luv egypt:

    I remeber tons of intelligent people explaining preciesely why the flag was flopping. I also remember seeing the F’ing Mythbusters repeat the motion in a vacuum…! It’s really not that hard to understand… :D

    In defence of anon: There is a limit to freedom of speech. FOS gives you the right to say anything you like, but you better be prepared to face the consequences if what you say is against the law. Now, the law differs slightly from country to country, at least in the west. Some countries don’t mind you claiming that the holocaust never happened, others do. Generally, however, the line is drawn if you accuse someone of something that is clearly or provably not true, or if you threaten others with harm in any way. It could be argued that Sand Ape has done both of these things on this blog several times…

  35. It will, of course, take a lot more to strip someone of their citizenship, particularly if they have been born in the country…!!!

  36. zionist? that’s interesting since I care nothing for the middle east conflict. Just goes to show how brainwashed you are. Why hold an american passport if they are supporting the zionist cause, that you apparently really care about? You’re siding with zionists by keeping that little blue passport. Time to give it up and go fight with your bros

  37. Adam,

    CUNT MAMMA!

    In case you haven’t figured it out yet Dairy Boy!

    You are ignored due to the abject intellectual poverty and incoherency you are displaying which makes it time for me to move on although I have enjoyed it immensely.

    I realize that I have really flustered you into some major self denial and you hate the fact that I am pushing all your buttons while all you can do is deny it and do absolutely nothing about it.

    Also due to the simple fact that I have severely insulted your mother, father, family, country, views, sexuality, mentality, debating styles and your verbal excrement in short bursts!.

    Keep reading this every time you post to me or about me, because that’s all you are going to get out of me!

    Have fun you stale Danish!

  38. #24

    I think that every one has missed out the most important factor that motivates soldiers.

    Fear. Many soldiers are afraid, all the time, yet are doing the job anyway.

    Without hearing the testimony of those actually present at the scene it is very hard to make a good judgment.

  39. i luv egypt:

    “Adam u remember the 1st vid of the man on moon where it was staged, when they had a flag flapping all around like it was a windy day! The second was true but the first one. Its all good iran did the same with their rocket expo”

    http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=yhab86KoVjU

  40. Homa meen dolat ella yekhdo el gensia el Amriki beta3ee, A7A yabba A7 ya Cos!
    I know my rights real good!

    Uttering threats at electronic pseudonyms is not a crime!

    In Europe holocaust denial is!

    But I would never deny the Holocaust as the holocaust is the best weapon to fight the sick minded Zionists with!

  41. #34

    Adam has a point here. Making an explicit threat of violence is against the law. Doing it in a public place, especially in this discussion thread which provides a digital record, means that prosecutors could prove it.

    Yet, I am not sure that prosecuting Sand Ape would be a good idea. Although he talks a good ad hominem game, his arguments, which display a marked lack of rational thought,
    can be logically and factually dis-proven nearly every single time.

    By putting forth his argument Sand Ape exposes himself. Better he do it in public.

  42. Because they over use it,

    To keep reminding and blackmailing the world of the plight of the Jews under Hitler 70 years ago, while at the same time inflicting on the Palestinians today the same fate of the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto, is a disease of the mind.

    To impose a collective guilt overshadowing Western civilization for the Holocaust and then to criminalize all legitimate historical debate of the nature and extent of that horrific event is a disease of the mind.

    To virtually incarcerate the Palestinian people inside degrading cages, destroying their livelihoods, confiscating their lands, stealing their water and uprooting their trees, and then to condemn their legitimate resistance as terrorism is a disease of the mind.

  43. jack,

    You’re a jack ass lol

    End of story!

  44. Uttering threats at electronic pseudonyms is not a crime!

    In Europe holocaust denial is!

    But I would never deny the Holocaust as the holocaust is the best weapon to fight the sick minded Zionists with!

    Because they over use it,

    To keep reminding and blackmailing the world of the plight of the Jews under Hitler 70 years ago, while at the same time inflicting on the Palestinians today the same fate of the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto, is a disease of the mind.

    To impose a collective guilt overshadowing Western civilization for the Holocaust and then to criminalize all legitimate historical debate of the nature and extent of that horrific event is a disease of the mind.

    To virtually incarcerate the Palestinian people inside degrading cages, destroying their livelihoods, confiscating their lands, stealing their water and uprooting their trees, and then to condemn their legitimate resistance as terrorism is a disease of the mind.

  45. @ i luv egypt’s comment:

    “Wow the Western world embrace freedom of speech and invaided Iraq and caused the death of 1 million iraqis and displace 5 million, yet they will threaten people like Sand Ape if he attempts to comment on a blog that states “freedom Zone’ clearly. ”

    So now you know where I get the term “Hypocritical-Zionist-Ass-Wipe”

    Now do you believe that Zionism is an incurable sickness of the mind!

  46. Roman Kalik says:

    @18 I luv egypt:

    Israel censors reporters from certain footages! I thought there was freedom of speech in Israel, one video was shown and God knows how many were confisticated. Watch it now

    Um, considering the fact that some of the videos you brought were actually first aired on Israel’s Channel 2 News, that’s a pretty absurd statement by and large.

    The only reasons, from a military censorship point of view, to confiscate reporters’ footage in the middle of a war-zone is if the footage compromises military security and goals (which happens fairly often – reporters during the 2nd Lebanon War in 2006 reported Israeli troop movements and accurate artillery hits, effectively ruining IDF military planning and helping Hezb fighters with their rocket accuracy), and a temporary ban on publishing the names of casualties – until the families are informed.

    Anything else gets published sooner or later – in fact, you just proved it yourself with the Youtube uploads.

  47. Roman Kalik says:

    @44 Sand Ape:

    Uttering threats at electronic pseudonyms is not a crime!

    You are sadly mistaken. It *is* a crime in most countries – including the United States, in which you happen to reside. Threatening people with violence, even if they don’t identify themselves to you in a proper and concise manner, isn’t legal.

    In Europe holocaust denial is!

    Well, yeah… Hate crimes tend to be illegal. Inciting to violence and racism, that sort of thing… all those little issues you approve of.

  48. sand ape, you do realise that your taxes probably paid for a switch on those F16s, given US’s aid to Israel. You’re funding zionism as we speak.

  49. Sand Ape:

    “In Europe holocaust denial is!”

    Generalization… It’s illegal in Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania, and Switzerland.

  50. I wasn’t in Amerikkka when I fought with the electronic baby killers and left hateful remarks. All remarks were per se remarks anyways. I aint stupid you know!

    Although I have commented on this site from the US before, as well as the UK. I happened to be in the Middle East at the time alright!

    So go eat yourselves guys!

    Not that I agree with you that uttering threats at electronic pseudonyms actually is illegal in the US or anything.

    But who are you to judge.

    You are a traitor to humanity and the whatever country you used to come from before you joined apocolyptic Israel!

  51. 1.) Adam,
    In case you haven’t figured it out yet Dairy Boy!
    You are ignored due to the abject intellectual poverty and incoherency you are displaying which makes it time for me to move on although I have enjoyed it immensely.
    I realize that I have really flustered you into some major self denial and you hate the fact that I am pushing all your buttons while all you can do is deny it and do absolutely nothing about it.
    Also due to the simple fact that I have severely insulted your mother, father, family, country, views, sexuality, mentality, debating styles and your verbal excrement in short bursts!.
    Keep reading this every time you post to me or about me, because that’s all you are going to get out of me!
    Have fun you stale Danish!

  52. “I aint stupid you know!”

    :D !!!

    You been doing a great job of proving the opposite, though… :)

  53. 2.) anon,

    Who gives 2 shits mr?

    I don’t!

    The US has funded el Qaida, armed Iran, killed millions of innocent people thru out history.

    Am I proud of those things at all?

    Hell NO!

    Am I still proud to be American, yes sir, you betcha!

  54. Adam,
    In case you haven’t figured it out yet Dairy Boy!
    You are ignored due to the abject intellectual poverty and incoherency you are displaying which makes it time for me to move on although I have enjoyed it immensely.
    I realize that I have really flustered you into some major self denial and you hate the fact that I am pushing all your buttons while all you can do is deny it and do absolutely nothing about it.
    Also due to the simple fact that I have severely insulted your mother, father, family, country, views, sexuality, mentality, debating styles and your verbal excrement in short bursts!.
    Keep reading this every time you post to me or about me, because that’s all you are going to get out of me!
    Have fun you stale Danish!

  55. Sand Ape, is it ever possible for enemies to work together to improve their understanding of each other and to increase their compassion? Is it possible for them to find that they have much in common and to put aside old grievances and to move toward neighborly relationships? Is it possible for love to be stronger than hatred? How generous is the human spirit? Is blind hatred the only answer in a conflict or is understanding the nuances and complexities of the human condition possible? Do you believe that the human heart has enough generosity to forget, to forgive and live compassionately?

  56. Actually finding Sand Ape or any or us is not difficult.

    Private citizen probably cannot do it but any law enforcement agency with proper court order can do it easily and in matter of minutes.

  57. i luv egypt @ #19, what’s you point with all those videos?

    Why soldiers were calmly conversing with their prisoner and all of a sudden their behavior totally changed?

    Why woman soldier seemed to pay particular attention to only one of three boys? Oh, and woman spitting. Doesn’t it look like reaction to dirty mouth?

    Hey, what is the deal with the camera jerk? Was that reaction to the shot? Who shot that boy anyway?

  58. i luv egypt says:

    @ leo
    loooool i cannot believe this. Man for real this blog is unbelievable. I show them real footages of IDF abuse and they are still in denial!

    1st they ignore commenting on other videos such as this one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0o_07BBk0 which clearly shows the jewish treatment to the locals. They justify the beating of little kids by both female and male soldiers. Just lets stop at the female soldier abusing children, cmon women are way more sensitive than men. I cannot believe women can behaive in such a way.

    They are shocked that palas children hate jews from a young age eventhough the videos show how israeli soldiers abuses children, come to your house break a hole in ur wall, of course that is after bombing your house killing your mother infront of ur eyes.

    The both the IDF and them new jewish settlers disgust me. That is inhumane you guys for real. I thought there can be peace but for a palas child to grow up like that…. It aint a about brain washing, that is incorrect. It is due to the treatment of both jewish settlers and IDF to the native palas. People who says they are brain washed are the same whom came out with the Islamic myth 72 virgins… I dont know where on earth did they get that number “72″! Ya like a boy who is 7 years old stod infront of tank and of course shot dead because of his harsh treatmeht from IDF and probably lost his mom; will die not because of revenge but because his 7 years old mind wants to have sex with 72 virgins!!!

    Please stop using the holocust as an excuse, stop bombing chilren and their families then calling them terrorist or 72 virgin lovers after they fight back.
    We are not Germans!!

    This was a comment by an Israeli girl names “Israeliflower” sounds peacful yaa?? well here is what she had to say about this video:

    Here is a Jewish settler terrorising a palastenian mother and calling her a WHORE commanding her not to leave her house and stay in her cage. Plus her children help her by spitting, throwing stones and the police is just standing there silent.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0o_07BBk0

    The Israeli’s girl comment on this vid was the following, this is how an israeli justifies the killing of innocent children.;

    good if it was me i will call her worst after what ive seen in videos when u dirty pigsssss yelling jews in the oven jews r pigs jews r monkeys shes lucky that palestinian because if it was meeeeeeee i will do more then that. go to youtub watch how ur imams want to kill all jews and drink there blood what kind of sick religion is that opsssssssssss cult r u vampires?
    ur sheikhs preaches where ever u see a jew kill him. ive seen last night a mother of 5 jihad boys sayin HAMDOULILAH MY KIDS R IN JENA WITH THEIR 72 VIRGINS.u talking about links? i got links that will make u leave islam. look what u doing in europe animals u want to conquer the whole world. well islam is sickkkkkkkkkkk and violent cult. the world is waking up .

  59. i luv egypt says:

    Here is what a couple of IDF veterans says about their daily routine as an IDF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

  60. i luv egypt:

    To be honest, you show vids of people of questionable origin filmed by people of questionable loyalties. I’m noit saying it’s fake, period; I’m just saying there’s no way we can know.

    The soldier slapping the kid looks legit. So what? It’s a minor offence, and nothing compared to what other atrocities are being commited, probably by both sides, but certainly by the palestinians. So I’m supposed to get excited about a soldier slapping a kid in the middle of a war?

    The lady spitting at the kids is out of line. The comments section mention the kids being told to turn back but not following orders. In a land where suicide bombings are the order of the day, I’d say the kids were lucky they were not shot. It truly sad that this is the order of things in that region, but the truth is sometimes not what you’d like it to be.

    The shooting footage is very suspect. If it’s IDF soldiers, it’s deplorable and should have repurcusions, but I honestly can’t tell – they could be palestinian militants for all I know – their uniform is certainly not very regimental…! Also, there are obvious cuts in the footage, most importantly it’s hard to tell if the gun is actually fired or if the scene is taken out of context (still bad to be pointing a rifle at a bound prisoner!) and later manipulated…

    As for your settler vids, I’ve never said that I sympathize with the settlers; quite the opposite in fact. I have VERY little tolerance for religious nutcases, be they muslim or jewish (or christian), and in my opinion, the first priority of the israeli government should be to withdraw settlers to land behind the 1967 lines. In case you haven’t read this before on this blog, there are idiots on both sides of the fence!

  61. i luv egypt says:

    I do agree that anbody can video edit or stage a scene, but these are IDF soldiers and thats a broke ass pala kid! Like i said these are only samples of what i have seen bearing in mind the Israeli censorship cuz logically things can get very ugly between IDF and palastinians. Eventhough the slap like you said is nothing compared to other crimes commited such as using white phosphuras (israel denied it then admit it stating it is used as a smoke cover); this video shows that the IDF do commit crimes and they are not angels compared to Hamas.I am just tryin be fair and unbias and show the other side of the conflict. You know slapping a kid might look normal but it does have a great effect on kids especially if they are not related, let alone the hatred due to occupation. Personally i am against zionism as an ideology. But now that there are atleast 2nd generation Israeli, i doubt they would leave their home cuz thats the only home they know now. In other words, it is impossible to convince an 24 Israeli born and raised in Israel to leave his country regardless of history. It could ve been possible when Jewish settlers first came in but now its just too late bcuz hey hav no other place to go. Thats why i am with peace but it is impossible for palastinians to forgive the Israelis for what they did because of the daily reminding of how bad they are. Even if a kid is “brain washed” in your point of view from his parents, he would not be as opposing as his parents. But seeing what his parents taught him with his own eyes and experience the harsh treatment of both IDF and jewish setttlers; love is impossible.

    If jews were smart they should show palas kids an oppisite treatment to what they have heards in mosques and from the older folks. Adam you might think it just a slap but think of the consequences! What do u expect from that little kid to grow up as? Do you think he will mind throwing rocks at an IDF if he had the chance? Think of that little boy and his sister seeing an IDF clling their house a shit hole, killing their MOTHER and breaking a hole in their fucking house!! You think he will hesitate to take revenge if given a gun? How many orphans are out there? A kid loosing all his family being left alone with no house to even sleep in, you think he would mind commiting suicide to take revenge? And please do not say he is doing for the 72 virgins thats just sick to think like dat!!! Adam, every action has a reaction! Nobody forgets or forgives even white kids if you bully them enough in school they will come back with a gun and shoot everybody even asians did it!!

    Imagine your were palas and an IDF soldier used as a human shield against ur own people!! Would you and seek peace with an authority that use as lab rat? Howcome nobody mentioned here the extrem jewish settlers engineers students that home-made rockets?

    The IDF and the settlers (wow looks like the whole of ISreal) is taking the wrong path to peace! Did the muslims ever treat jews in such a way when we welcomed them from europe back in europe fucked up days?

    If an IDF soldiers came to some ghetto in palas and gave out free chocolates and barbies to little girls, would they really hate Israel or mind peace? Its not only Arabs that hate Israelis these days its whole freaking world! It aint about anti_semtisim its about humanity. By great grand father is orginally a morrocan jew who came to Egypt to fulfill his business dream i Alexandria until he converted. Look at jews of alexandria my city before the 1967 how they were treated.. Do not expect palatinians to be any better than their parents or Hamas,i think they would be worse knowing what they are experiencing. And that jewish settlers disgust me for spittin on her neighbour terrorizing her until she leaves like the rest of the Arabs. No muslim treat my gran father like that in his neighbourhood! Even Mohamed PBUH treated his jewish neighbour very well and traded with him. Man the more cases i hear and expecially see the more i understand where those extreme imams are coming from.

  62. “Thats why i am with peace but it is impossible for palastinians to forgive the Israelis for what they did because of the daily reminding of how bad they are.”

    The exact same thing can be said the other way around. That’s pretty much the gist of the whole conflict – there is not enough will to accept things the way they are and get on with life.

    “If jews were smart they should show palas kids an oppisite treatment to what they have heards in mosques and from the older folks”

    Agreed. There is the trouble of looking past 60 years of hatred and desire of your opposition to have you exterminated, but nevertheless – if peace is what you want you’re gonna have to work for it. I’m not really arguing that their upbringing, be it propaganda from the grown ups or bad treatment from israelis, will shape the way palestinian kids act as adults, but common sense still has to be taken into account. Palestine is not winning this war. Period. Perhaps it’s time for level-headed adults to realize this and work towards a solution that’ll allow everyone to live a decent life. Voting for a terrorist organization that will settle for no less than the destruction of Israel is not the way to go!

    “Its not only Arabs that hate Israelis these days its whole freaking world!”

    Easy, don’t you start believing the propaganda too… You hear what you want to hear, and the people in the west supporting Palestine indiscriminately are a very loud bunch, though not very numerous… Most people feel sympathy towards the israelis as well as the average palestinian, but loathe Hamas and are very critical of Israeli use of force. You’d do best to ignore the wackos on both sides, who make no effort to view this conflict in an objective way.

    “No muslim treat my gran father like that in his neighbourhood!”

    On the other hand, you won’t have a hard time finding a muslim in western Europe, who’ll treat the “indiginous” citizens just like that…

    “Man the more cases i hear and expecially see the more i understand where those extreme imams are coming from.”

    You don’t seem to realize that it’s precisely because of the teachings of these extreme imams that this entire situation is where it’s at!!! No arab hostility towards jews, no bad jewish treatment of arabs. There are rabis and priests that preach extreme views too, but let’s face it – the imams are in enormous majority, and their teachings are way more radical.

  63. i luv egypt says:

    Extreme is extreme and death is death. Adam reading your comments it seems that suicide bombers to you is way more deadly than an F-16 bombing. Extremist IDF look way more cooler than a muslim palas with no teeth and un ugly long bearded face. You said imams are way more radical than radical Rabbis??!! Adam both of them are radical, one being more shows how bias you are. Both kill each other, but you seem to tolerate military killings way mor ethan militias. They both kill, no one is more radical than the other.

    “The exact same thing can be said the other way around. That’s pretty much the gist of the whole conflict – there is not enough will to accept things the way they are and get on with life.”

    You were refering to the not forgeting part of children. There is big difference here Adam, we are dealing with natives and occupiers. The older palastenians have a bad memory and impression of the genocide Israeli did to them. Where the older folks on the ISraeli side have no bad memory because simply they were not even in that area. The only bad memories they could possibly have is the holocust not Suicide bombers because theu did not exist in that time. Adam i cant believe you are comparing palas with Israelis. What can an Israeli Rabbi who is 80 years old have possibly experienced in his childhood that makes him still not forgive palas?? He wasnt even there for heaven sake!! Thats why jews keep reminding us of the holuct cu they cannot ever say shit about palas because historically and logically its impossible. If you live in Ausrtia or france there is no way a palas can harm you. You understand what i mean? Israeli childhood’s is very different than a palastinian one! There were no Palastinian soldiers harrasing young jews on heir way to school everyday! Where you have IDF much powerful having acces to all of the area!

    “You don’t seem to realize that it’s precisely because of the teachings of these extreme imams that this entire situation is where it’s at!!! ”

    Again Adam, what made those Imams have hate towards jews and radical preaching? What have they experienced in their childhood? Maybe and IDF slap?

    Of course in a peacful prespective it is not justified but still he does have his reasons. But on the other side where we have a fresh new radical Rabbi settlers who lived most of his life in USA or Europe, what excuse or bad experience with palas can he possibly have?!!!

    Adam you need to look deep into matters. All you do is denounce radical preaching instead of looking into the cause of such trends in the middle east. You say radical preaching is bad, unlike you; i would ask myself why are they radical? what have they experienced? What makes them the way they so we can stop it from its source. Why are they different from moderate preachers like lets say Malaysia? Why are most Imams in palas are radically preaching in mosques? HAve they all experienced a bad childhood? what does that tell you of the overall treatment of not only these days but for the last 60 years of the jewish and IDF treatment to the native locals including kids? But what can an old Rabbi possibly have as an excuse other than the Holosuct which occured by a different nation, race, religion and place!

    By the way i am Muslim and i just came back from Friday prayer, the Imam did not preach against Judaism he preaches against Zionism, the IDF who harras children for reason, who in your sleep slams your house door keeping you in constant fear and loss of stability in you home sweet home. If you cant feel safe at home how the fuck can u feel any safer on the streets? I know Israeli do not feel safe a well but they made a choice of invaiding a country. Adam big difference between the oppressed and the invaider.

    Why cant Israel say atleast sorry for invaiding your land, causing countless genocides for the last 60 years, taking your land and fucking yall over. Australia did it with the native and the government gives them a whole lot of money. But Israel want to fuck them up more!!

    When i said the world mate i did inly refer to USA i reffered to the whole world!! like france, germany, UK,Ireland, Australia, most Asians countries and defintly Latin America.

  64. i luv egypt:

    “Adam reading your comments it seems that suicide bombers to you is way more deadly than an F-16 bombing”

    Not neccesarilly, but the former happen to be a direct targetting of civilians with no other purpose but to kill as many of the enemy as possible. The latter usually try to perform precision bombing (although it is often made dificult by this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE ) in retalliation for attacks, and usually aim at stopping more attacks rather than just kill aimlessly. Big difference!

    “You said imams are way more radical than radical Rabbis??!!”

    Well, yes… One preaches that some piece of land is yours and you should just throw out any who happen to be on that land. The other preaches that it’s your duty to kill all jews and anyone who tries to stop you from doing what they interpret Islam wants you to do, regardless of local laws. Big difference!

    “we are dealing with natives and occupiers”

    No, we’re dealing with two sets of long time natives of the land – read this: http://mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm . The problem is that one side WILL NOT tolerate the other. The jews may be too greedy for land for their own good, but the palestinians wants to friggin’ exterminate the jews. Big difference!

    “the genocide Israeli did to them”

    If we’re talking genocide, I wonder how come we have so many millions of palestinians around these days…? No, the only (attempted) genocide was the one the arabs decided to try out in ’49, 67′, 73′ and so forth… The israelis have friggin’ nukes – if they wanted to eradicate the arabs they’d have done it by now.

    “What can an Israeli Rabbi who is 80 years old have possibly experienced in his childhood that makes him still not forgive palas??”

    See the above answer and read the history in the link. You have a serious case of history-denial…!

    “Again Adam, what made those Imams have hate towards jews and radical preaching? What have they experienced in their childhood? Maybe and IDF slap?”

    I have no idea… They’re just as crazy up here in our neck of the woods, and we’ve shipped them in by the boatloads, handed them cash, given them houses and allowed them to practice their religion (as far as it doesn’t breach our laws), and still we’re the bad guys!

    “unlike you; i would ask myself why are they radical?”

    Oh, believe me I’ve asked myself that very question lots and lots of times – there is no real answer, aside from the fact that they’re preaching a 1400 text that has in no way been adapted to a more modern mindset – it’s about bloody time it did!

    “i just came back from Friday prayer, the Imam did not preach against Judaism he preaches against Zionism,”

    Funny – I’m not a christian, but was brought up as one. The thing is, I don’t remember the priest preaching AGAINST anyone – he was preaching FOR love, compassion and understanding. See the difference?

    “Why cant Israel say atleast sorry for invaiding your land, causing countless genocides for the last 60 years, taking your land and fucking yall over.”

    We don’t agree on this point (again, check out the link) – why can’t the arabs say sorry for trying to dominate everyone in the region and exterminate the jews?

    “When i said the world mate i did inly refer to USA i reffered to the whole world!! like france, germany, UK,Ireland, Australia, most Asians countries and defintly Latin America.”

    So did I. :)

  65. Roman Kalik says:

    causing countless genocides for the last 60 years

    …you do realize that were Israel the cause of even *one* genocide against Palestinian Arabs – you know, the systematic annihilation of an ethnic, religious, or national group… there wouldn’t be that many Palestinians around to complain about it?

    Did you ever, actually, truly, bother to look at death tolls in the Middle East over the past 60 years? Israel/Palestine doesn’t go anywhere *near* major military conflicts and *actual* genocides – like the Kurds, like Hama, Syria. Like Black September in Jordan.

    Get back to me when you do that, please. I’d love to hear your conclusions about regional conflicts in the Middle-East and the definition of Genocide.

  66. Reality Check says:

    SM,
    Looking at the postings here it seems some have really missed the essense of your creative blog. Perhaps you can refer them to some appropriate sites – heavy on dogma, open to diatribes and no requiring any measure of knowledge, understanding or even facts or even such minor matters as reliable translations of footage.
    Back to your post – if, as indicated, Set is Pales’s alternative name then you may conclude that “Set-telers” are the real “Pales-tinians” or alternatively that the “Pales-tinians” are the real “Set-telers”.
    Keep it coming, much appreciated.

  67. Have a nice discussion y’all – I’m off to Thailand for a few weeks, so you’ll just have to do without me for a while… ;)

    Hopefully, Sand Ape won’t be too disappointed that he won’t have as much opportunity to show off his copy/paste skills for a while! :D

  68. i luv egypt @ 60,

    “@ leo
    loooool i cannot believe this. Man for real this blog is unbelievable. I show them real footages of IDF abuse and they are still in denial!”

    It is not denial. It is disgust with your attempt to equate official Arab/Muslim/Palestinian/Whathaveyou genocidal policies with behavior of few bad apples, which, if proven, are prosecuted or discouraged at very least by Israeli authorities even without you pointing at them them. So, please, spare me your righteous BS. Does not cut it.

    PS. On personal note. I do not like religious extremism of any kind or any extremism for that matter but what you see here is totally predictable reaction to your atrocious behavior. Go, cry me a river.

  69. i luv egypt: “Again Adam, what made those Imams have hate towards jews and radical preaching? What have they experienced in their childhood? Maybe and IDF slap?”

    OK, let’s forget about some abstract imam. How about this one – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

    What was his problem then, IDF? Could it be Jews in general?

    BTW, Jewish belief in the home land is no less important then your belief in whatever you believe in. You could’ve chosen peace long ago, you’ve chosen war. Do not complain now. Either continue on your chosen path or ask for peace. But I do not want to hear you complaining about adverse reaction to your bad choices.

  70. i luv egypt says:

    @ Roman Kalib;

    “…you do realize that were Israel the cause of even *one* genocide against Palestinian Arabs – you know, the systematic annihilation of an ethnic, religious, or national group… there wouldn’t be that many Palestinians around to complain about it?

    Did you ever, actually, truly, bother to look at death tolls in the Middle East over the past 60 years? Israel/Palestine doesn’t go anywhere *near* major military conflicts and *actual* genocides – like the Kurds, like Hama, Syria. Like Black September in Jordan.”"”

    O i can name you many, you can even visit your local musuem with weapons used by the early jewish settlers. And for the other middle east genocides, that is irrelvant. Why da fuck are you talkin about Kurds right now??

    Adam, Pala did not choose to wage war on Israel, israel started this shit by announcing its independance. So its like me coming to your house and announcing it is my property now.

    leo, why do you think they hate jewish settlers so much???

    leo says:” BTW, Jewish belief in the home land is no less important then your belief in whatever you believe in.”

    well its not surprizing to see som1 who doeasnt know crap about Islam yet displays his racist ideas. Leo, you are a retard. Muslims belief in protecting their land to death. Jews believe in their promised land. So if i personally in my religion believe Ukrain is my home land, it will be justified to go to Ukrain, kill the locals, build the wall for only us egyptians and kick out the locals. Will that be okay leo? I mean it should be okay because i believe i have a home land!!!

    If i come take over your house, and literly fuck you over, and your lawyer ask you to get it back, will that lawyer be considerd extreme?

    Yes many jews were in the middle eats, but mostly came from Europe! I mean you did not see Black jews in Palastian, or blond russians jews were present? So leo and Adam are you denying that there were thousands of jewish settlers from around the world?????!!!!! That all the jews in Israel have been living there for the last 10,000 year???

    And for you guys denying the genocide that Israel did to the palas people by stating that they would been finished by no win population size. No they wont because eevery palas family has around 13 children!!!! Eventhough there were a lot of genocides, its still hard to crack them family up. Leo you really need to fuck your self talking about my religion like that. MY grand father was a jew and he converted. Trust me i read about all religions, non of them are violents like everybody says.

  71. i luv egypt: “well its not surprizing to see som1 who doeasnt know crap about Islam yet displays his racist ideas. Leo, you are a retard. Muslims belief in protecting their land to death. Jews believe in their promised land.”

    First, I have (had) no idea whether you are Muslim, Christian, Jew, agnostic, or whoever else.

    Second, I do not care because I am willing to except importance of you believes to you without question. It is called paying respect to your freedom of religion (or non-religion). Something you are yet to afford to non-Muslims in Egypt. No wonder you did not get it (who’s retard?).

    Third, Muslims are not alone in their belief in protecting their land to death. Problem is you believe Uma is the area situated between two Muslims in any direction.

    Fourth, try coherently explaining to me why your Muslim believes should supersede my Jewish believes.

    Fifth, you still did not explain to me how IDF hurt Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. That is unless your beat about ‘Muslim land’ is your explanation. Then I must admit it is not very convincing. Get to Saudi Arabia and start from there. Let’s see, I might be more receptive.

  72. Roman Kalik says:

    O i can name you many, you can even visit your local musuem with weapons used by the early jewish settlers.

    Name one.

    Tell me what weapons the Jews used.

    Give me the casualty numbers.

    And while you’re at it, read what “genocide” is again, because apparently you haven’t realized what it is yet.

    And for the other middle east genocides, that is irrelvant. Why da fuck are you talkin about Kurds right now??

    Because the Kurds had an actual, real genocide attempted against them. Hundreds of thousands were brutally murdered, gassed, sprayed with lethal chemicals, and thrown into mass graves.

    It was my attempt to get to realize what an actual genocide is. Apparently, it has so far failed.

    And for you guys denying the genocide that Israel did to the palas people by stating that they would been finished by no win population size. No they wont because eevery palas family has around 13 children!!!! Eventhough there were a lot of genocides, its still hard to crack them family up.

    Ah. So you *didn’t* bother reading the actual history, and looking at the combined death-toll of all Palestinian Arabs in Israel/Palestine over the past 60 years. Had you done that, you might have realized that if *this* is genocide, it’s probably the slowest genocide to have ever occurred. Or that Jews are really horrible at planning and implementing systematic mass murder.

    Kid, Israel could have wiped out the entire Palestinian population under its direct control ten times over. In a week or so. It didn’t. It didn’t even go near it, not by a long shot – that’s because there had never, actually, been an attempt at genocide against Palestinian Arabs. It’s propaganda, and little else. An attempt to demonize the “evil occupying foreign Jews”.

    Will you look at the actual death tolls over the past 60 years already?

  73. FYI,

    In 60 year of conflict of Jew-on-Muslim violence casualty figures are as follows:
    Arabs/Muslims – approx 46K
    Jews – approx 11K

    During the same period of Muslim-on-Muslim violence casualty figures are as follow:
    Muslims – approx 6M

    My apology for not offering the source. I forgot where I read about it. But it looks realistic.

  74. Uh, not for nothing, but #74 and #75 sound right about this.

    Still, it is nice to know that the Arabs are good at something.

  75. Joel Rosenberg says:

    Oh, come on; you’d have to know that they worship an ass, even before they put up a shrine to that Egyptian guy, Arafat.

  76. i luv egypt
    You wrote that “If jews were smart they should show palas kids an oppisite treatment to what they have heards in mosques and from the older folks.”
    But they do not hear about it, they see it.
    According to the news “10 prisoners were executed after they were accused of collaborating with Israel because Israeli forces bombarded the prison in which they were held.
    One of the prisoners, Saleh Hajuj, was executed outside Gaza City’s Al Shifa hospital, in full view of doctors and patients. He had been taken to the hospital after being wounded in the bombing.
    Witnesses say armed and masked Hamas men show up at night at the homes of people the Islamists deem suspect, shoot them in the legs or drag them away to be interrogated.”
    (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090130/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictgazapalestinianrights)
    And Palestinian children follow their elders – they look at the Al Aqsa television glorifying Hamas and martyrdom, they look at street fighting between Hamas and Fatah, they see large and small quarrels between neighbours solved by use of force. And they imitate their elders.
    So don’t talk about Israelis, talk about Palestinians, because “Who live by the sword, will die by the sword”

  77. i luv egypt,

    I spoke all the same stuff you have spoken with this crowd and to the same effect.

    They have cotton in their ears dude!

    Why won’t you believe me that Zionism is an incurable sickness of the mind?

    God is not an asshole!

    He said don’t even try to talk sense with his pigs and apes!
    (I used to be one of them until i reverted, hence my name Sand Ape).

    God said that he chose the children of Israel to wander the gutters of the Earth for breaking their covenant with him. Initially he saved them and protected them from their enemy Pharaoh and give them a chance. But in the end they transgressed all their Lords bounties!

    Although it seems kind of unfair because God is the one who created them and made them the way they are. But in the end I guess he was using them as the perfect example of “biting the hand that feeds you!”

    Now the bigger dilemma is thus: A large majority of Jews are not even religious at all and are actually really cool people. An even larger amount are not Zionist. But in a state of war we tend to group them all into one boat to sink!

    Any Jew can accept Islam or Christianity and not be eternally damned!

    However they are in love with the lust and fornication that both Islam & Christianity prohibits. One of my best friends is a Jew that has accepted Christ as his lord and savior. another acquaintance is a big shot Imam who used to be a rabbi!

    The world is in a predicament right now due to Apocalyptic Israel but please do not mistake this predicament for Strayed Jewish Self determination!God has ordained it all. From the Holocaust to Hiroshima to occupied Haifa!

  78. i luv egypt says:

    @ leo;
    “Fifth, you still did not explain to me how IDF hurt Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.”
    Leo, if you read what ive said, i said the IDF has harrased and tortured palastinians and the most devastating harrasment is to children. IDF treating children in such a way will only cause a long term effect on the young ones. Children not only hear negative brain washed preaching (which i do not support) about Israeli, they have actually whitnessed it and experienced it. How can you accuse an Imam of being extreme if he is telling the truth (Of course what i mean by saying the truth is the inhumane treatment of IDF not the jews are pigs and apes crap)

    You know that bully from school that you still wanna get him back for what he did eventhough it has been 30 years…. If only one side can show the other how they can be much better then them, maybe then forgivness will come about.

    @Roman Kalik;
    “And while you’re at it, read what “genocide” is again, because apparently you haven’t realized what it is yet.”

    Roman Kalib, trust me man i do know what a genocide is i have seen one just two weeks ago. Why look back in history while we have perfect countless accounts of what happened in Lebanon 2006 and 2008/2009?

    Lebanon 2006: over a thousand three hundred dead mostly civilians Third of them children + 28 killed from Lebanese Red Cross and Tyre hospital.

    Gaza 2008/2009:1,284 Gazans were killed, 894 of the dead were civilians, including 280 children and minors, age 17 and under, as well as 111 women and 4,336 wounded.

    What do you call that? Does a mass killing have to be the same number of the holocust to be considerd a genocide? Not enough for Israel to consider inhumane? Then someone should redifine that word and tighten that number to at least 500. I dont know about Jews or non religous peeps out there, but in Islam you kill ONE innocent life you killed all mankind (which is over 2 billion at least).

    However, if you are not muslim you would not believe in that concept so lets look at Israeli’s action if they fit the “genocide” criteria or not…

    i googled Genocide 4 a quick definition…..

    [G]enocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;— Palastinian women and children,CHECK

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;—Sonic booms associated with Israeli over-flights have caused widespread deafness among children. Gazans now require thousands of hearing aids. The majority of children in Gaza suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder and even more severe mental problems are widespread, CHECK

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; —- 75 per cent of Gazans. The infrastructure for 1.5 million people is in a state of complete collapse. Raw sewage runs in the streets. The only power plant was destroyed by Israeli jets. Oil supplies have been cut to a fraction of what is needed to sustain normal life, CHECK

    Can i add the white posphorus please?—- Israel denied using it untill lool it was pretty obvious ther were but gave an excuse that they used it as a cover on the expense of civlians burned skin, Bloody Animals! CHECK

  79. i luv egypt says:

    @Roman Kalib:
    “Tell me what weapons the Jews used.”
    “Give me the casualty numbers.”
    I am sorry i do not have the source for the weapons or the musuem but i assure you it is well known. I have seen it on SBS channel in Australia. A documentry showing the “mass killings” of many palastinian tribes. Testimony of former Israeli officials with burning conscience of what happened in many parts of Palastian. The documentry continues by showing footages of a musuem with tagged weapons. Appearantly one Israeli was stating how brave were the early jewish settlers that expanded their land with their own hand, hence the worst envention on earth “THE RIFLE”. My arguement is still weak because i failed to show you a source but leo did the same btw :d

    @leo
    During the same period of Muslim-on-Muslim violence casualty figures are as follow:
    Muslims – approx 6M
    loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Thats all i can say mate.

    “My apology for not offering the source. I forgot where I read about it. But it looks realistic.”
    Wow leo, it looks realistic to you but does not to many people with a bit of brain. Leo sorry to fuck up ur bubble but what you said is incorrect and saying it seems realistic to you is very bias. Again an invalid arguement.

    Joel Rosenberg Says:
    January 30th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    Oh, come on; you’d have to know that they worship an ass, even before they put up a shrine to that Egyptian guy, Arafat.

    Joel, you have just accused a whole nation, race and in fact a religion of worshipping an Ass. I find it very amusing to see old skool racist fucks like you still existing. Btw, Arafat is palastian, Muslim do not build shrines for anybody like christians or jews. Maybe Sufis but there arent many in Pala anyways.

    @ella:
    Witnesses say armed and masked Hamas men show up at night at the homes of people the Islamists deem suspect, shoot them in the legs or drag them away to be interrogated.”

    Thank you ella for once having some1 who does not curse my religion and providing some sources as he/she speaks to support his/her arguement.
    ella the IDF is doing the same even worse, if you please look at the link i have provided you will see real footages from the Israeli Channel 4, and the BBC showing IDF using palas children as human shields against their own people, freaking cowards.

    So don’t talk about Israelis, talk about Palestinians, because “Who live by the sword, will die by the sword”.

    Are you sure we shouldnt be talking about both sides of the conflict in any war or blood shed??!! Will it be fair to judge or seek solution if we only look at one side? You want me not to talk about Israelis, really? Are you sure hunn? Because only 3 weeks ago Israeli soldiers killed almost 1,300 Gazans. Does that not at least make you want to question Israelis soldiers action and handeling of the conflict that fucked a whole region ME for the last 60 years? I know we fuck up too and we also discuss that. BUt you just said i should not talk about soldiers that kill THOUSANDS of innocent people!! I mean ella wat da fuck??? Are the Israeli soldeirs that holy to you to not question their wrong doings? Is it the holocust excuse or is it that they are holy that we are not allowed to talk about them when they kill over a thousand people? Yet it is okay to talk about how pala are fucking terrorist (texas acent) for not getting over loosing their land and its their fault. Yep a 7 years old fault for being bombed at with white phosphorus. Man yall Jews are unbelievable!! No wonder my gran pa converted and left Morroco.

  80. i luv egypt says:

    Israel ‘hides settlements data’

    It suggests most construction took place without the right permits, and more than 30 settlements were built in part on land owned by Palestinians.

    Settlements are a contentious issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    The defence ministry has not commented on the report, which appears to contradict Israel’s official position that it does not requisition private land for settlements.

    The internationally-backed “road map” peace plan also calls on Israel to halt all settlement activity.

    BBC source

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7861076.stm

  81. i luv egypt says:

    BBC also reports that Israeli holy jewish Rabbis give out booklets to IDF that interpreted as a call to act outside the confines of international laws of war.

    Read more on how Rabbis are extreme preachers that cause brutal death and require IDF to show no mercy (reminds me of the nazis) on palastinians(civilin, women and children).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7852025.stm

  82. i luv egypt,

    Obviously these bastards are in the wrong!

    Would you like to witness something magnanimous?

    Please pay close attention to how they will deny, argue, lie their way out of any blame. Please pay close attention to this phenomena!

  83. BBC also reports that Israeli holy jewish Rabbis give out booklets to IDF that interpreted as a call to act outside the confines of international laws of war.

    BBC is hardly in a position to dictate to anyone what the international laws of war are. They’ve been caught on too many occasions to count, misquoting the Geneva and Hague conventions, not to mention telling deliberate and outright lies about them. You need to invoke a better authority than that, if you want anyone besides hatemongering murderous peace activists to pay attention. It isn’t wise to invoke as an authority those who have been caught engaging in criminal activity, themselves. It comes across as more than a little absurd… kinda like Hamas complaining about Israeli terrorism. It’s a total “WTF!?” to rational human beings.

    Read more on how Rabbis are extreme preachers that cause brutal death and require IDF to show no mercy (reminds me of the nazis) on palastinians(civilin, women and children).

    That isn’t what the article said. So, you just like to misrepresent your own disreputable sources, now, eh? :P

    This is what the article you linked said:

    The booklet, citing an ultra-nationalist rabbi, told soldiers to show no mercy to a “cruel enemy”.

    Showing no mercy to the enemy is not illegal. There is no legal requirement to be merciful to enemy combatants, in a war. If you think there is, then I invite you to quote the relevant treaty text demonstrating that.

  84. The internationally-backed “road map” peace plan also calls on Israel to halt all settlement activity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_map_for_peace

    The “road map” was Bush’s idea. I had no idea you were such a big fan of Bush! Or do you just think nobody notices, when you try to exploit even the peaceful intent of your enemy to your own advantage? :D

    Why don’t you reference some Arab peace plans, when you make your arguments? There must be some Arabs who want peace and aren’t afraid to say so, right? Or, maybe, not so much? Well, I’m sure you can continue getting traction from European and American naivety for a little while longer. Seems to be plenty of it going around, right? I mean, after 60 years we westerners still haven’t realized that Arabs don’t actually want peace… it seems our foolishness knows no bounds.

  85. :) LOL

    i luv egypt

    Ay ra2yak b2a, do you see what I mean regarding:

    “Would you like to witness something magnanimous? Please pay close attention to how they will deny, argue, lie their way out of any blame.” and try to make you out to be the morally & intellectually inferior. using ad hominems and personal insults.”

    See what I mean dude, actions speak louder than words, don’t they!

  86. Nice going Craig!

    :)

    Seriously!

  87. i luv egypt says:

    I am waiting to see their response…I cant believe people argue with facts. even if i show them n IDF killing a little kid they will say “Israel does not tolerate such actions” but ay look at what palas are dong..GOD DAMN

  88. I cant believe people argue with facts.

    I know! Why should they argue with facts, when they can argue with lies, like you do? :D

  89. “Would you like to witness something magnanimous? Please pay close attention to how they will deny, argue, lie their way out of any blame.” and try to make you out to be the morally & intellectually inferior. using ad hominems and personal insults.

    Did you get a chance to read that article on psychological projection yet, Sand Ape? :)

  90. i luv egypt

    See what i mean, see how the fag has turned exactly what you accuse him of on you, even when the fact is as stiff as a dick in his face waiting to be sucked, lol!

    “I know! Why should they argue with facts, when they can argue with lies, like you do?”

    You can only find this shit on the net bro!

    Don’t worry though, I have been throwing salt in their game for over 3 years now and love it.

    Check back regularly for a good laugh or two!

  91. See what i mean, see how the fag…

    Homophobia from the guy who just asked me to send him full frontal nudity shots :D

    You really don’t think you are gay, do you? Mind boggling…

  92. Eva Ferrero says:

    Is an Israeli Jewish sense of victimization perpetuating the conflict with Palestinians?

    By Akiva Eldar
    Haaretz, 30 January 2009

    A new study of Jewish Israelis shows that most accept the ‘official version’ of the history of the conflict with the Palestinians. Is it any wonder, then, that the same public also buys the establishment explanation of the operation in Gaza?

    A pioneering research study dealing with Israeli Jews’ memory of the conflict with the Arabs, from its inception to the present, came into the world together with the war in Gaza. The sweeping support for Operation Cast Lead confirmed the main diagnosis that arises from the study, conducted by Daniel Bar-Tal, one of the world’s leading political psychologists, and Rafi Nets-Zehngut, a doctoral student: Israeli Jews’ consciousness is characterized by a sense of victimization, a siege mentality, blind patriotism, belligerence, self-righteousness, dehumanization of the Palestinians and insensitivity to their suffering. The fighting in Gaza dashed the little hope Bar-Tal had left – that this public would exchange the drums of war for the cooing of doves.

    “Most of the nation retains a simplistic collective memory of the conflict, a black-and-white memory that portrays us in a very positive light and the Arabs in a very negative one,” says the professor from Tel Aviv University. This memory, along with the ethos of the conflict and collective emotions such as fear, hatred and anger, turns into a psycho-social infrastructure of the kind experienced by nations that have been involved in a long-term violent conflict. This infrastructure gives rise to the culture of conflict in which we and the Palestinians are deeply immersed, fanning the flames and preventing progress toward peace. Bar-Tal claims that in such a situation, it is hard even to imagine a possibility that the two nations will be capable of overcoming the psychological obstacles without outside help.

    Scholars the world over distinguish between two types of collective memory: popular collective memory – that is, representations of the past that have been adopted by the general public; and official collective memory, or representations of the past that have been adopted by the country’s official institutions in the form of publications, books or textbooks.

    The idea for researching the popular collective memory of Israeli Jews was raised by Nets- Zehngut, a Tel Aviv lawyer who decided to return to the academic world. At present he is completing his doctoral thesis in the International Center for Cooperation and Conflict Resolution at Columbia University’s Teachers College. The study, by him and Bar-Tal, entitled “The Israeli-Jewish Collective Memory of the Israeli-Arab/Palestinian Conflict,” examines how official collective memory in the State of Israel regarding the creation of the 1948 refugee problem has changed over time.

    Bar-Tal became enthusiastic about the idea and, with funding from the International Peace Research Association Foundation, he conducted a survey in the summer of 2008 among a representative sample of 500 Jewish Israeli adults. The study demonstrated that widespread support for the official memory testifies to a lower level of critical thinking, as well as belief in traditional values, high identification with Jewish identity, a tendency to delegitimize the Arabs, and support for taking aggressive steps against the Palestinians.

    In a telephone interview from New York, Nets-Zehngut says it is very clear that those with a “Zionist memory” see Israel and the Jews as the victims in the conflict, and do not tend to support agreements or compromises with the enemy in order to achieve peace. This finding, he explains, demonstrates the importance of changing the collective memory of conflicts, making it less biased and more objective – on condition, of course, that there is a factual basis for such a change.

    Bar-Tal, who has won international awards for his scientific work, immigrated to Israel from Poland as a child in the 1950s.

    “I grew up in a society that for the most part did not accept the reality that the authorities tried to portray, and fought for a different future,” he says. “I have melancholy thoughts about nations where there is an almost total identity between the agents of a conflict, on the one hand, who nurture the siege mentality and the existential fear, and various parts of society, on the other. Nations that respond so easily to battle cries and hesitate to enlist in favor of peace do not leave room for building a better future.”

    Bar-Tal emphasizes that the Israeli awareness of reality was also forged in the context of Palestinian violence against Israeli citizens, but relies primarily on prolonged indoctrination that is based on ignorance and even nurtures it. In his opinion, an analysis of the present situation indicates that with the exception of a small minority, which is capable of looking at the past with an open mind, the general public is not interested in knowing what Israel did in Gaza for many years; how the disengagement was carried out and why, or what its outcome was for the Palestinians; why Hamas came to power in democratic elections; how many people were killed in Gaza from the disengagement until the start of the recent war; and whether it was possible to extend the recent cease-fire or even who violated it first.

    “Although there are accessible sources, where it is possible to find the answers to those questions, the public practices self-censorship and accepts the establishment version, out of an unwillingness to open up to alternative information – they don’t want to be confused with the facts. We are a nation that lives in the past, suffused with anxiety and suffering from chronic closed-mindedness,” charges Bar-Tal.

    That describes the state of mind in 2000, when most of the pubic accepted the simplistic version of then-prime minister Ehud Barak regarding the failure of the Camp David summit and the outbreak of the second intifada, and reached what seemed like the obvious conclusion that “there is no partner” with whom to negotiate.

    Bar-Tal: “After the bitter experience of the Second Lebanon War, during which the memory of the war was taken out of their hands and allowed to be formed freely, the country’s leaders learned their lesson, and decided that they wouldn’t let that happen again. They were not satisfied with attempts to inculcate Palestinian awareness and tried to influence Jewish awareness in Israel as well. For that purpose, heavy censorship and monitoring of information were imposed” during the Gaza campaign.

    The professor believes that politicians would not have been successful in formulating the collective memory of such a large public without the willing enlistment of the media. Almost all the media focused only on the sense of victimization of the residents of the so-called “Gaza envelope” and the south. They did not provide the broader context of the military operation and almost completely ignored – before and during the fighting – the situation of the residents of besieged Gaza. The human stories from Sderot and the dehumanization of Hamas and the Palestinians provided the motivation for striking at Gaza with full force.

    Nets-Zehngut and Bar-Tal find a close connection between the collective memory and the memory of “past persecutions of Jews” (“the whole world is against us,” and the Holocaust). The more significant the memory of persecution, the stronger the tendency to adopt Zionist narratives. From this we can understand the finding that adults, the religious public and those with more right-wing political views tend to adopt the Zionist version of the conflict, while young people, the secular public and those with left-wing views tend more to adopt critical narratives.

    The atmosphere in the street and in the media during the weeks of the Gaza war seems to have confirmed the central finding of the study: “The ethos of the conflict is deeply implanted in Jewish society in Israel. It is a strongly rooted ideology that justifies the goals of the Jews, adopts their version, presents them in a very positive light and rejects the legitimacy of the Arabs, and primarily of the Palestinians,” notes Bar-Tal.

    For example, when asked the question, “What were the reasons for the failure of the negotiations between [Ehud] Barak and [Yasser] Arafat in summer 2000?” 55.6 percent of the respondents selected the following answer: “Barak offered Arafat a very generous peace agreement, but Arafat declined mainly because he did not want peace.” Another 25.4 percent believed that both parties were responsible for the failure, and about 3 percent replied that Arafat did want peace, but Barak was not forthcoming enough in meeting the needs of the Palestinians. (Sixteen percent replied that they didn’t know the answer.)

    Over 45 percent of Israeli Jews have imprinted on their memories the version that the second intifada broke out only, or principally, because Arafat planned the conflict in advance. Only 15 percent of them believe the viewpoint presented by three heads of the Shin Bet security services: that the intifada was mainly the eruption of a popular protest. Over half those polled hold the Palestinians responsible for the failure of the Oslo process, 6 percent hold Israel responsible, and 28.4 percent said both sides were
    equally responsible.

    Among the same Jewish public, 40 percent are unaware that at the end of the 19th century, the Arabs were an absolute majority among the inhabitants of the Land of Israel. Over half of respondents replied that in the United Nations partition plan, which was rejected by the Arabs, the Arabs received an equal or larger part of the territory of the Land of Israel, relative to their numbers; 26.6 percent did not know that the plan offered the 1.3 million Arabs a smaller part of the territory (44 percent) than was offered to 600,000 Jews (55 percent).

    Bar-Tal claims that this distortion of memory is no coincidence. He says that the details of the plan do not appear in any textbook, and this is a deliberate omission. “Knowledge of how the land was divided could arouse questions regarding the reason why the Arabs rejected the plan and make it possible to question the simplistic version: We accepted the partition plan, they didn’t.”

    However, his study shows that a larger percentage of the Jewish population in Israel believes that in 1948, the refugees were expelled (47.2 percent of respondents), than those who still retain the old Zionist version (40.8 percent), according to which the refugees left on their own initiative. On this point, not only do almost all the history books provide up-to-date information, but some local school textbooks do as well. Even on the television program “Tekuma” (“Rebirth,” a 1998 documentary series about Israel’s first 50 years), the expulsion of the Arabs was mentioned.

    Nets-Zehngut also finds a degree of self-criticism in the answers relating to the question of overall responsibility for the conflict. Of those surveyed, 46 percent think that the responsibility is more or less evenly divided between Jews and Arabs, 4.3 percent think that the Jews are mainly to blame, and 43 percent think that the Arabs and the Palestinians are mainly to blame for the outbreak and continuation of the conflict. It turns out, therefore, that when the country’s education system and media are willing to deal with distorted narratives, even a collective memory that has been etched into people’s minds for years can be changed.

    Bar-Tal says he takes no comfort in the knowledge that Palestinian collective memory suffers from similar ills, and that it is also in need of a profound change – a change that would help future generations on both sides to regard one another in a more balanced, and mainly a more humane manner. This process took many decades for the French and the Germans, and for the Protestants and the Catholics in Northern Ireland. When will it finally begin here, too?

  93. Soooo pales=ass and it happens to be that tina = river.

    Palestina = ass river!

  94. Mark Clinton! says:

    As a professional political scientist what immediately leaps out from this account of the Bar-Tal study for me is the obvious correlation between the output of educational systems and mass media in constructing Zionist memory. As a revolutionary socialist who belongs to an organization with its own media (Socialist Worker, International Socialist Review, Haymarket Books) and a perspective of participating in the struggles of the oppressed against their oppressors, this account of the Bar-Tal study reminds me that my activism is part of my attendance in the university of the international working class, so to speak.

  95. Craig,

    Give it up already, I don’t what else to tell you and your mail order bride dysfunctionally disgruntled ass!

  96. Mail Order bride? lol. Are you projecting on me again, SA? I doubt you could even find a mail order bride, dude. Although you might be able to score with the bargirls in Thailand… if you are on your best behavior, and have a wallet full of cash. I’d warn you to make sure they were female, but in your case that’s prolly not an issue, right?

    Hey, but why travel all that way? There are plenty of tgirls in Tijuana, right? I bet you’ve never been so proud to be American as when you were impressing Mexican transvestites, eh? :D

  97. Oh I see that you are a connoisseur on thai bar girls! not very good for your rant that you are a refined play boy, when we all know that you are recluse, chee hee!

    Oh and I see Tijuana as well, yipes, what a disgrace you are. Since it has always been you doing the descriptive projecting and troll profiling you antagonist dog!

    You and the other run away Zionists choose to avoid logical discussion from high definition intellectual commenter’s, by choosing to accuse them of whatever they accuse you of.

    Brilliant you worm!
    Ooops!

  98. @ 97 mark Clinton,

    Would there be any relation to our old whining hag of a secretary of state ‘Hillary Clinton?”

    regarding your comment

    “for me is the obvious correlation between the output of educational systems and mass media in constructing Zionist memory.”

    Is this supposed to be some sort of an over due epiphany or something? Of course the media etc is run by a greedy bunch of elite Jews that have Craig, tedders and the likes working as their drones without them even knowing it!

    Ooops, call the antisemite Police on me now, look what I just said!

    LOL all the way to the bank!

  99. Roman Kalik says:

    @82 I Luv Egypt:

    Roman Kalib, trust me man i do know what a genocide is i have seen one just two weeks ago. Why look back in history while we have perfect countless accounts of what happened in Lebanon 2006 and 2008/2009?

    My last name is Kalik, thank you very much. B and K aren’t that close on the keyboard, really.

    And no, you haven’t seen genocide during the past year, and neither did you see one in Lebanon. What you saw was military operations and wars.

    Lebanon 2006: over a thousand three hundred dead mostly civilians Third of them children + 28 killed from Lebanese Red Cross and Tyre hospital.

    Most of them civilians? Quite likely, seeing as how every armed conflict since the dawn of time had primarily civilian casualties. Yet you bring those numbers as if those were the actual goals of the IDF and IAF, rather than Hezbollah fighters, their military infrastructure in the form of thousands of medium and long range launchers, armed personnel, ammo depots, the works…

    Perhaps you missed that, and the part where Hezbollah launched its rockets from within villages across South Lebanon, and how it had its largest HQ in bunkers under a residential neighborhood in Beirut.

    Mere details, of course, mere details…

    Gaza 2008/2009:1,284 Gazans were killed, 894 of the dead were civilians, including 280 children and minors, age 17 and under, as well as 111 women and 4,336 wounded.

    Interesting figures. You very quite close to bringing the actual Hamas statistics there (you know, that about a dozen were actual Hamas members while the rest were civilians).

    Firstly, I don’t count teenagers as child casualties, for the simple reason that neither does Hamas when it gives them guns or straps explosives on them. Most of the casualties in the recent conflict, the *armed* casualties, were aged from 15 to 23. Impressionable youths who listened to Hamas preachers one time too many and went to find that Glorious Divine Victory they were always promised.

    And yes, many civilians died in the recent conflict – Gaza is a densely populated urban landscape – and yet, to validate your claim of genocide, you would have to claim that the IDF’s sole target was to eradicate the Palestinian civilian populace.

    So explain to me the leaflets. You know, the ones that came before air raids. Explain the phone calls that warned civilians in order to give them time to evacuate. Explain all the time the IDF and IAF wasted to give Palestinian civilians a chance to escape a war zone. Explain the fact that the Palestinian death toll doesn’t have six figures, when the IAF has bombs that can flatten whole neighborhoods.

    Explain why Israel didn’t take the easy way to conduct a genocide if that was what it intended. Explain to me why instead, it did its best to target Hamas armed forces.

    What do you call that? Does a mass killing have to be the same number of the holocust to be considerd a genocide?

    Yes, as a matter of fact. It has to be an organized mass murder with the single reason of eradicating an ethnic, national, or religious group.

    That’s not what happened here no matter how you try to twist it.

    Then someone should redifine that word and tighten that number to at least 500. I dont know about Jews or non religous peeps out there, but in Islam you kill ONE innocent life you killed all mankind (which is over 2 billion at least).

    So we should take all meaning away from the concept of genocide? Reduce it to a single murder? Because for Muslims, a single Muslims equals a genocide of pretty much anyone else?

    [G]enocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    Did you note the word intent there? I most certainly hope you did.

    (a) Killing members of the group;— Palastinian women and children,CHECK

    Wrong. I somehow missed the part where the IAF carpet-bombed Gaza and turned it into a smoldering heap of millions of corpses. So unless the IAF is rather crap at this whole genocide business, this criteria fails.

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;—Sonic booms associated with Israeli over-flights have caused widespread deafness among children. Gazans now require thousands of hearing aids. The majority of children in Gaza suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder and even more severe mental problems are widespread, CHECK

    The same affects can be observed in Israeli Jews living in the southern region of Israel. Having several dozens of rockets and artillery rounds flying over your head every day tends to result in physical and mental disorders.

    But we don’t call that genocide – because it isn’t. Oh, and here’s another difference…

    IAF flights don’t have the intended result of deafening and harming Palestinian children. In contrast, Palestinian rocket barrages are quite intent on maximizing civilian casualties and harm.

    So who has the bad intent here, I wonder?

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; —- 75 per cent of Gazans. The infrastructure for 1.5 million people is in a state of complete collapse. Raw sewage runs in the streets. The only power plant was destroyed by Israeli jets. Oil supplies have been cut to a fraction of what is needed to sustain normal life, CHECK

    Israel supplies Gaza with over 70% of its electricity, even today. The whole “Single power plant” claim is rubbish, because Gazans didn’t bother to build their own self-sufficient infrastructure with all the money they got from Europe, other donors worldwide, and even Israel itself. Israel also supplies Gaza with its water.

    Israel also left Gaza with enough advanced greenhouses to make it completely self-sufficient in terms of food.

    Hamas failed in building up and maintain that infrastructure. Guns were more important than food. The greenhouses and other facilities were destroyed in petty squabbles and are now launch sites for rockets.

    Please, stop blaming Israel for what Palestinians brought upon themselves with their ineptitude and hatred. With this last criteria, you have actually brought about the argument that Palestinians are busily attempting a genocide against themselves!

    Can i add the white posphorus please?—- Israel denied using it untill lool it was pretty obvious ther were but gave an excuse that they used it as a cover on the expense of civlians burned skin, Bloody Animals! CHECK

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorous#Smoke-screening_properties

    Read the article instead of making a fool out of yourself. White phosphorous shells are the most widely-used smoke-screen devices in the world. Us “bloody animals” just tend not to shoot such shells at gathered crowds, instead using them for what they were intended for – producing smoke! To mask troop movements and cause confusion!

    You know… like any other army on the planet.

  100. Sand Ape, what percentage of those multisyllabic words do you actually understand the meaning of?

    You and the other run away Zionists choose to avoid logical discussion…

    Are you going to try and “change your tone” again now? That didn’t work out so well for ya, last time! You ended up hitting on me and then having a nervous breakdown, as I recall. You sure you’re up for it? It seems that, among other things, you don’t handle stress well. It concerns those of us who care about you, you know :)

  101. Do you dare say that I am wrong now ‘ i luv egypt ‘

    i especially like the part about…

    “White phosphorous shells are the most widely-used smoke-screen devices in the world. Us “bloody animals” just tend not to shoot such shells at gathered crowds, instead using them for what they were intended for – producing smoke! To mask troop movements and cause confusion!

    You know… like any other army on the planet.”

    Even though no civilized army in the world has used it at close quarters in such densely populated areas except during a war crimes campaign.

    shouft yabni insa, its useless Trust Me. But by all means carry on for another week or 2 then guaranteed you will disappear and would have had enough!

  102. But by all means carry on for another week or 2 then guaranteed you will disappear and would have had enough!

    You’ve been here for several years now. Are you claiming “i luv egypt” is smarter than you? I may have to retract my accusation of narcissism. But not until you prove to me that you don’t think everyone in the world is here, reading your every word, learning from your infinite wisdom.

    How often does it occur to you that Sandmonkey is making posts with hidden messages, just for you?

  103. I never had no melt down and i recall saying that i will never take you or adam seriously again.

    So when I tell you to sod off or suck my dick, please don’t take it personally like I, errr, really want you to suck my dick or anything like that!

    Now Sod off cunt face….you and tedders get a copy paste like Adam’s real soon!

    Happy Heart bleeding for tworset. BTW, anal is the only way to describe what she did to you. Again, it is key not to take my comments too serious you in the closet fag, outta the closet homophobe!

    Gimme your skype and we can carry on this love affair over voip!

  104. Roman Kalik says:

    Even though no civilized army in the world has used it at close quarters in such densely populated areas except during a war crimes campaign.

    *smiles* Interesting. So, basically, no other army in the world uses smoke-producing munitions in an urban, populated landscape?

    Is this the part where I bring up the multitude of armed conflicts that involved battles within large cities, since WWII onwards, which involved the use of white phosphorous shells to mask troop movement? Or should I leave you to your own reading of military history?

  105. I luv egypt

    “Because only 3 weeks ago Israeli soldiers killed almost 1,300 Gazans.”
    Quite, and half or more of that 1300 were Hamas people. .
    “Does that not at least make you want to question Israelis soldiers action and handeling of the conflict that fucked a whole region ME for the last 60 years?”
    No it does not. Particularly because it was the arab actions which fu^&* the whole region ,Millions of dollars thrown at palestinians and as the result you got grad rockets and 80% unemployment in Gaza.

    And now you started to rant ending with:
    “Man yall Jews are unbelievable!! “,
    Which completely missed the target.
    As did your other statements.

  106. i peer at these comments and smirk, i have witnessed it all before!

  107. Gimme your skype and we can carry on this love affair over voip!

    You are offering to give me the big slurpy blowjob in skype now? That could be interesting, if you weren’t a dude. You have any sisters?

  108. By the way, Sand Ape, I’m glad to see you staying on topic, for once! Not sure what everyone else is up to. It seems they are too cowardly to discuss bisexual ass gods.

  109. You homophobic wreck, I told you not to take my comments literally Mr. cunt face! but if you want to get technical you in the closet gay and out of the closet homophobic wreck, i asked you to suck my dick you ass licker!

    Now let’s see if you can keep up with me Craig with out accusing me of being a yuck mouth who is having a melt down.

    I calmly and collectedly am calling you a racist cunt bastard who wasn’t breast fed my his mother. I white faggot trailer trash piece of shit that was probably molested as a child.

    A douche bag, sack of shit. A loser who has been on this blog for 4 yrs and a half this February who comes here just to get his jollies off by bad mouthing Arabs.

    Ever since twosret washed her friends dirty under wear with your face and had you panting with extacy. Only to end up inflicting one on yourself after she fed it to you!

    A putrid scumbag that we thank God we can’t smell on the net!

    Please stick around though!

  110. that a boy Craig, comment 111,

    touche! :)

    Even though you are a scum bag, you are witty scumbag, so by all means stick around. Otherwise you will be a great loss to amusement quality of this blog!

  111. If only everyone was as easily amused. We could have peace in the middle east by next month – all we’d have to do is force everyone to watch non-stop Jerry Springer marathons.

  112. i luv egypt,

    Yes, in last 60 years Muslim-on-Muslim violence killed almost 6 million people.

    Here is something for you to think about (research made by some Lebanese and I leave it as is):

    —IRAQ-IRAN ((80-88)) :1.1 million/

    —BANGLADESH ((71)) :1.3 millions/

    —SOMALIA islamists(91-06)) :400 000/

    —IRAQ-KURDS(( 80-90)) :300 000/

    —NIGERIA BIAFRA(66-79)) political and ethnical : also between muslims against muslims , but also christians against muslims : so it will count half :and ((93-06)) :1.1 million/======> 550 000

    —TADJIKISTAN(( 92-96)) :against islamists:50 000

    —SOUTH YEMEN ((86 )) :10 000/

    —NORTH YEMEN: ((62-70 )) :100 000/

    —KUWEIT INVASION: (( 90-91 )) :140 000/

    —SYRIA HAMA (( 82 )) : in few days: 20000/

    —TCHAD (( 82-90 )) :40 000/

    —ALGERIA Civil war between people and ISLAMISTS (( 91- 2003 )): 200 000/

    —JORDANY against palestinians black sept: ((70-71 )) : 25000/

    —ALBANIA (90% muslim)civil war: ((45-91 )) : 100 000/

    —IRANIAN ISLAMIC REVOLUTION: ((78-79 )): 80 000(two times more muslim shiaas killing in one only year than in 60 years arabic-israelis conflicts=46000 arabic muslims killed : including:lebaneese-palestinians-jordanians -egyptians-algerians-morrocans -tunisians-yemenis-iraquis-syrians-lybians-sudanians mercenaries)/

    —INDONISIA: ((65-66 )) marxists islamists: 450 000 and /// (( 69-05 )) papousia-CELLEBS:450 000/ : here we have also MIXED fights between christians against muslims and muslims interfights ((communists muslims against integrists )), so we will count the half of 900 000 =====>> 450 000 /

    —LEBANESE WAR ((75-90 )) : I exclude the TOTAL from the addition number : even if there were many clashes inter-muslims: SHIAAS-PALESTINIANS-SYRIANS against palestinians ans Syria against HIV -SYRA against SUNNIS : but I’ll consider it a war between christians and muslims , even though it’s not right :7 5000 muslims and 75000 christians/ : we can count 25000 at least inter-muslims fights ((I think it’s more but let’s count that. ))

    —PAKISTAN islamists ((96- 2007 )): 20 000/

    —DARFOUR(all muslims)SUDAN (( 2003- 2008 )): 400 000-

    —SUDAN civil war north-south : first and second SUDAN CIVIL WARS : ((55-72 )) and (( 83-2005 )):2 millions(1million christians and 1 million muslims): clashes between muslims against ANIMISTS and CHRISTIANS , and fights inter-muslims.: we will count the HALF of the ONE million of the muslims fights inter-muslims : 500 000 ))

    —TURKEY KURDS (( 70′s – 2008 )): 30 000

    ***I didn’t count any conflict with Muslims against Non-muslims like:

    afghanistan-soviet // or afghanistan-USA // iraq-USA etc;
    just inter-only islamics conflicts : I’ll show you why.

    ***So you see , when I watch on TV , and I see for ex : manifestants in pakistan-bangladesh-indonisia-soudan : shouting against 10 palestinians killed by israel,while in the same time no one says nothing about 400 muslims killed in KURDISTAN by TURKEY in one day in west irak (( by the islamist ERDOGAN )) or 1000 BLACKS muslims darfuris killed by a little-less-black JINJAOUIDS SUDANESE in one day

    ARE 1000 darfouris or 400 kurds have less value than 10 palestinians???

    or we must not mention them or cry for those killed , just because they were killed by other muslims .??????

    ***LET’s count all these killed between ONLYmuslims against muslims :

    1.1 M + 1.3 M + 400 000 + 300 000 + 1.1 M / 2 (( 550 000 )) + 50 000 +
    10 000 + 100 000 + 140 000 + 20 000 + 40 000 + 200 000 + 25 000 + 100 000 +
    80 000 + 450 000 + 25 000 + 20 000 + 400 000 + 500 000 + 30 000
    =
    5 840 000 muslims killed
    ((almost 6 millions )) inter-muslims fights since 48- till 2008

    while in the same time israel killed 46 000 muslims and 4 500 christians ARABS

    and there were about 11 500 jews killed in inter -ISRAELO-ARAB WARS ……..

    ***With all killed in 60 years by muslims themselves about 6 000 000 :

    Aren’t they as much valuable as the 46 000 arabic muslims killed in arabic-israelis conflicts(((without counting about 4500 arabic christians killed by israel and 11 500 jews killed by arabs in these 60 years))) ? or have they LESS VALUE ?????????????????

    it’s VERY ILLOGICAL the behaviour of muslims in ISRAELI – HATE , and you’ll understand why !!!

    ALL that to let you see what this conflict is illogical in borning such hate especially from FAR -muslim sights ((as such afghans-pakistanis-bengladeshis-indonisians-iranians who manifest for palestine and palestinians !!! etc etc.. ))

    ***if muslims are a little bit logical:

    6 million muslims killed by themselves against 46000 arabic muslims killed by israel in the same last 60 years:
    we have a rate of: 5 840 000 / 46 000= 127 : means for each 1 muslim killed by israel in 60 years the same muslims that hate and shout on israel killed 127 other muslims:

    So muslims in the world must hate themselves 127 times more than they hate israel!

    but they hate israelis more than themselves.

    *** let me give you another example : if I come and kill your THIRD DEGREE COUSIN ((not a direct one )), and your first degree cousin ((the son of your uncle )) kill 127 of all your family so that your brothers , sisters , father , mother , other cousins , uncles aunts , etc etc : 127 of your family : all slaughtered !!!!!!
    WILL you hate me MORE for killing your third degree far cousin = 1 PERSON ((and maybe in self-defense )) than this DIRECT COUSIN who did a holocaust on your family : by killing 127 of your relatives .

    If yes : IT IS VERY VERY VERY ILLOGICAL , because even if I am not from your direct family===>>> ((((((although all people are desendant of NOE ((after the “DELUGE “)) and his BIG BOAT on the MONT ARARAT floating at that time , so we are all far cousins , if you beleive in NOE’s DELUGE and in ABRAHAM’s descendants …)))))) ,

    ====>>>still your direct cousin is a much bigger murderer than I who maybe killed in self-defense your third cousin degree !!!!

    VERY ILLOGICAL this hate !!!!!!!!!!

    ***Please think about it all , and especially those who wants to continue WAR against ISRAEL ((perdue d’avance =LOST in advance )) and who backs HIV’s USELESS ARMS ……….

    *for example :IRAN WHO WANT TO WIPE ISRAEL : In JUST ONE YEAR :there were 80 000 killed iranian shiaas between themselves in ISLAMIC REVOLUTION : IN ONE YEAR , almost TWO TIMES MORE than ISRAEL-ARAB wars in 60 YEARS (( 46 000 )).

    *another example : SYRIA ‘s HAMA massacre in few days : 20 000 -25 000 muslims : HALF the number of all muslims killed in 60 YEARS by ISRAEL (( 46 000 )).

    let’s make peace everyone : it’s more LOGICAL!

    ***and don’t come remembering me about WWII : 55 Millions killed by christians between themeselves , it is not the point ; because we are talking about the middle east wars, or else we can name all wars threw history and we will see that muslims caused 150 Millions killed only against black people in africa since the FOUTOUHATE till the OTTOMAN’s EMPIRE !!!!!!!! with the slavery of black people from the ARAB CAST.

    *it is just to lunch the ILLOGICAL BEHAVIOUR in the Middle east :

    *I am not defending : ISRAEL or MUSLIMS or CHRISTIANS , or anybody , it is just HISTORY and wars that existed : I just name these wars and the casualties , and compare the KILLED MUSLIM’s number by ISRAEL ((where there are 30 000 druz -40 000 fighters in TSAHAL )) and the KILLED MUSLIM’s Number by other MUSLIMS , and all that in the same period : 1948 ((ISRAEL FUNDATION )) -till : 2007-2008

    *** IN CONCLUSION : lebanon must be a peaceful country without such as HIV’s ARMS , that threaten all the region, and are so useless , because if those HIV’s BIG SUPPOSITARORIES ZELZAL II : are lunched against ISRAEL , the only LOOSER will be LEBANON TOTALLY DESTROYED , and especially the SHIAAS in the south : so those who are allied to this monster will pay the highter price , and so will do their children and ours…

    *LEBANON is a small and poor country , without the possibility to make him resemble to a GIANT :

    “as the LAFONTAINE FABLE” : like the FROG who wanted to be as BIG as the COW ((in LAFONTAINE’s FABLE )) and she eated and eated and eated ,until she exploded……….

    So we, with a tiny little country , must have ambitions as much as our own tiny dimension permit… and it is a touristic country and not a PERSIAN EMPIRE ……….

    ***THINK of the benefits for lebanon and all the region if PEACE is declared……

    and the first who will take major benefit of that : is the SHIAA PEOPLE of the south if there is peace with israel , israelis will visit and pass by the south before coming to beirut and the rest of lebanon …it’s amazing how HIV don’t care about SHIAA’s progress , but it thinks about how it will send them to death in sacrifice to IRAN’S HEGEMONY !!!

    ***ALL people are brothers to me : shiaas , sunnis , druzes ,ismailiyis ,kharrijites, jews , atheists , bahais , zoroastrians , hindous , boudhists , shintoists , animists , sikhs , etc etc… so don’t come and tell me that I am against shiaas or muslims or anyone else !!!!!!!!

    all that to DEMONSTRATE the ILLIOGICAL OF THE HUMAN BEING , his feelings and behaviour when he is full of blind hatred !!!!!!!

    *I didn’t give these numbers and wars , to shock muslims , or anybody else , but to UNDERLINE and EMPHASIZE the ILLOGICAL in the HATE BEHAVIOUR of this middle-eastern WARS……..

    *yes , you can say that palestine and the palestininans have no country !! but let’s try the peace process, all arab countries together with israel giving peace a chance : and if it dosen’t work , at that time ISRAEL should be blamed… and consequences will be on israel shoulders ………but unfortunately since 1948 arabs refused palestine being divided in two countries and lunched the first war , few days after “NATION’s SOCIETY = SOCIETE des NATIONS “‘s VOTE giving TWO LANDS for these two people.

    *but KURDS and ARMENIANS of TURKEY also must get buck to their countries and have compensations, !!!!

    *IRAQUI CHRISTIANS ALSO !!!!!

    *GRECS of TURKEY also ((2 millions kicked out by ottomans in 1920 )) !!!

    *and so on!!!!!!!!

    *So palestinians are not the only people without their lands , but all the world is focalized on this case……

    * And if some smarty people come and tell me that jews came from europe ,and palestine isn’t their land :
    I say that there were jews already in palestine and jordany//

    and I will also respond : if you want to go back in history :
    +++so we must send TURKS to MONGOLIA from where seljoukids came //

    +++and palestinians to CRETE or CILICIE from where FILISTINS came //

    +++and surely don’t forget to send back arabs of algeria-morroco-lybia from where they came in the origins :YEMEN : the real origins of arabs , because in algeria for example : the real people : berberians and KABYLES were christians before FOUTOUHATE of yemenits arabs , and EGYPT was entirely christian with evangelic ST MARC //

    +++ARMENIENS in EAST-TURKEY=BYSANCIA from where there were kicked out //

    +++ASHOURS and CHALDEEENS the real inhabitants of irak//

    +++Americans to europe //

    +++Europ hongarians :the eastern HUNS to Caucase //

    +++White russians to scandinavian lands //

    +++… etc etc…: so we can’t go back so far in history , or else ALL people of the world must move back to their origin’s lands :impossible !!!

    +++And last but not least : practically 97% of actual lebanese have a foreign origin : from crusaders in the north-to kurds -to armenians -to syrians -to arab yemenits- to egyptians-to greeks- to latin europeens-to aryens:like the TEUTON KNIGHTS=german knights aryen left palestine after crusade’s defeat and went to the baltics where they founded=established baltics cities = in lettionia-estonia etc , and these knights passed and mixed with inhabitants of lebanon /

    each person having blue or green eyes in lebanon or in the M-E has necessarely an ARYEN-LATIN = indo-europpeen origin :this is a fact : so all these-lebanese whom origins are foreign must also leave ,

    and so it goes to all so-called arab countries and their people who are all mixed with seljoukids-mongols((of kubilai khan and brothers )), tamerlank, persians , greek , romans , egyptians, numids , kurds etc etc…

    all people in arab countries in that case must also leave to their supposit origins:

    So stop here , and those who are always saying that jews are from europe : ((it is not totally wrong , because many jews in poland mixed with slavian people and that’s why they have colored eyes))and they must go back : I tell them : in that case : 95 % of all arab countries are full of foreigners !!!!!!

    *** HIVers hatred and ARMS will lead lebanon to a 100 years back-progress between civilised countries , and it is useless to hate israelis more than to hate those who kill muslims 127 times more than israelis kill them = it means other muslims !!!!!

    ***SO you understand : lebanon don’t need ARMS : if PEACE is DECLARED ; and before peace these arms will distant lebanon’s progress and tranquility , and will cause more dammages without any hope of winning results :

    because if HIV was SO sure that it will be the BIG BATTLE where israel will be WIPED OUT of the world’s map what is he waiting to lunch the DIVIN ARMAGGEDON BATTLE ((in bible on the meggido’s mountain in north palestine ))???

    like what said his chief the HIDDEN TURBANATOR BONOBO BUTCHER ” the Middle-east map will be changed next war ” !!!!!!!!!!

    when a chief is So sure and simultaneously full of hatred , I think that he don’t hesitate to smash his ennemies !!!!!!!

    but we all know about it : the real truth that everybody knows in all the world : words only words , and the FROG wants to be as big as a COW , but it will EXPLOD in ONE THOUSAND and ONE PERSIAN PIECES !!!!!!!!!!

    LET’s CHOOSE PEACE with ALL our neighbours for our CHILDREN’s FUTUR and for LEBANON’s BEAUTY .

    SO VOTE for “PEACE ” in 2009 and surely NOT for ARMS neither for HATE !!!

    that’s the only point where I wanted to come to …..

  113. i luv egypt: “Again Adam, what made those Imams have hate towards jews and radical preaching? What have they experienced in their childhood? Maybe and IDF slap?”

    leo: “OK, let’s forget about some abstract imam.
    .
    How about this one – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
    .
    What was his problem then, IDF? Could it be Jews in general?”

    leo: “Fifth, you still did not explain to me how IDF hurt Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.”

    i luv egypt: “Leo, if you read what ive said, i said the IDF has harrased and tortured palastinians and the most devastating harrasment is to children. IDF treating children in such a way will only cause a long term effect on the young ones. Children not only hear negative brain washed preaching (which i do not support) about Israeli, they have actually whitnessed it and experienced it. How can you accuse an Imam of being extreme if he is telling the truth (Of course what i mean by saying the truth is the inhumane treatment of IDF not the jews are pigs and apes crap)”

    So, let me repeat my question, “Fifth, you still did not explain to me how IDF hurt Grand Mufti of Jerusalem”.

  114. Barf from laughter @ Leo’s 40 ft ramble.

    So I guess you think that puts Israel in the right and free from any blame for having witnessed a genocide of its own and for being a desperate, panicking, heart stricken, compulsive invading belligerent ‘so-called-nation?”

    Zionism is a sickness, for it takes much more than just a twisted ideology to make people think like that. It requires a profound leap of immorality of a higher order to instill this mentality in your followers. Zionism is not merely a political movement, but in its essence represents a deeply disturbed view of the world, which is a reflection of a terrible disease of the mind.

    To blame the Palestinians for being unreasonable in rejecting a partition plan in 1947 which gave the Jews, who only owned 7 percent of the land, an astonishing half of Palestine, is a disease of the mind.

    To demand of the Arabs at the time to peacefully succumb to such partition, where 86 percent of the land designated for the proposed Jewish state was Palestinian-inhabited and owned land, is a disease of the mind.

    Indeed, to deny the existence of a vibrant community such as the Palestinian society in the early twentieth century and describe Palestine as “a land without a people for a people without a land” is a disease of the mind.

    To assert property claims over real estate after the lapse of more than 2000 years with the same certainty of title as if one resided there yesterday is a disease of the mind.

    If Israel were put down its weapons they know there will be 6 million false jews herded into Gaza. Since israel wouldn’t want to be treated the way they treat the Palestinians, they brain wash thier children into believing that evil against the occupied is not a sickness. Radical rabbi’s have been telling the IDf to break international laws.

    Can anyone please tell me of any other militia that has broken more UN resolutions than the IDF.

    Sovereign country my ass!

  115. Eva ferrero COMMENT 96,

    Welcome to the right wing Zionism blog 101, repudiating moral wisdom and condoning ethical perversion.

    Your comment 96 is a diamond in the ruff.

    I don’t know if you can handle it here, as you can see no one even attempted to address your comment which is the sinister truth to why there will never be any peace in the Middle East!

    Even though the respectable Haartz paper publishes these articles. It is the leaders and founders of Israel that are terrorists and have their cult by the balls!

  116. i luv egypt says:

    Man i am tired of arguing with people that keep denying shit. “So what if civilians died????? Mother fucker how is it okay to kill innocent civilians??? How can you ever justify that? So ella, roman KALIB and Craig argue that most of the Gazan casuality are civilians. Seems to be the whole world and HUman rights + the UN to be against yall. Did you heard what the doctors said??? Gazans dont hide in school, they got no where to go. Of course they will hid ein building because it is the most populated fucking city. They got no open space to go…. BTW Israel broke the cease fire even CNN confirms it and the UN. You know what excuse israeli got after they got busted lieing about Hamas started it, that those 8 Hamas peeps were a potential danger to Israel and they “MIGHT” cause harm to israel in the future..

    How can a jewish IDF drop bomb at UN school mayne??? Claiming that thought there was gun shots from there?? Even if there was gun shots, why shud a coward in a F-16 ever fear that.

    Since BBC is not a good source for many people here who follows probably FOX news, here three different sources so nobody can argue with my sources.

    here is one from CNN supporting his arguement with more sources..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

    The UN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOFXL62zw0

    Frin the TYT

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNKIEGzQOtw

    What more can i do mayne dis is hard talking with people who are inlove with zionism more than ethical and moral rights.

  117. lololol,

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

    Yawn!!

    LOLOL,

    I told you so bro!

  118. I don’t know if you can handle it here, as you can see no one even attempted to address your comment

    It wasn’t a comment, it was a copy-paste of a newspaper article. Most people are intelligent enough to realize it’s pointless to argue with somebody who doesn’t even bother with expressing their own personal opinions, eh? :P

  119. Man i am tired of arguing with people that keep denying shit.

    And we’re all tired with people who say the same old shit, over and over again, and act like they are saying something new. You know what “talking points” are, ILE? Don’t come here reciting Palestinian Activist talking points and expect people to address them, over and over and over again. It’s boring.

  120. Roman Kalik says:

    Man i am tired of arguing with people that keep denying shit.

    Arguing? You haven’t been arguing anything at all. You have been repeating mantras, refusing to properly address anything that anyone here attempted to debate with you over anything at all.

    Justifications for killing civilians? Find me a war that *doesn’t* have civilian casualties, and I might even take you seriously. And yes, I do dispute the figures that you brought – they’re the same figures that were originally published by the Palestinian Center for Human Rights, which remain utterly unverified by *any* other third party. Bad reporting will forever remain bad reporting – and repeating the claims of a *single* source time and time again doesn’t make it right – if anything, it just makes your claims as tainted as those of the original single source. The PCHR is possibly the most politicized and biased local “NGO” in the region.

    So no, your casualty rate claims have not been verified by Human Rights groups worldwide. Nor by the UN. Nor by anyone, in fact, who can actually be considered an impartial observer of the conflict.

    Even if there was gun shots, why shud a coward in a F-16 ever fear that.

    There were Israeli troops in Gaza City by then.

    here is one from CNN supporting his arguement with more sources..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

    The UN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOFXL62zw0

    Frin the TYT

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNKIEGzQOtw

    Interesting. So, if we somehow ignore the rocket fire between June 19th, 2008, and November 4th 2008 (several dozen of them, but whose counting anyway), and focus entirely on November 4th…

    You do know how the IDF found out about the tunnel dug at the Gaza-Israel border, right?

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3617798,00.html

    “Palestinian sources told Ynet that IDF forces had recently arrested a Palestinian who was hurt while attempting to carry out a suicide bombing in the same area and that they assumed the man told the security forces about the tunnel dug in Gaza during his interrogation.

    That information is believed to be the catalyst for the operation”

    Would a suicide bombing be a “breach of the truce”, I wonder?

  121. I LOVE EGYPT,

    “Man I am tired of arguing with people that keep denying shit.”

    Me too, and so is most of the Arab world!

    Diplomacy doesn’t work with them.

    Sort of like how ordinary citizens supported Jessie James, Bonnie & Clyde back in the day. Although they were brazen killers, they had their supporters. Just like al Capone did too.

    Any ASS-HOLE can tell you that ISRAEL IS NOT A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY and is just a thorn in its own ass.

  122. Actually I have gotten considerably further than you have with these deniers but in the end it was still the same hopeless case.

    Please, see for yourself, here!

    http://www.sandmonkey.org/2008/12/27/ghazaagain/#comments

  123. i luve egypt says:

    Sand Ape, they are a minority in the world, yet they are powerful. Israel proved to have control over the US and its no consipracy! Nobody explains as good as Cenk. Ehud Olmert told us how powerful he is over the US.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkdQbhB7Ckk

    So we know for a fact that they control the world eventhough the whole world denounces their actions.

    Sand Ape, in 50 years i doubt young Arabs will allow Israel to exist after what they did in Gaza. Israel must be retarded to think that their mass killing has no consequences. Its true what my Imam said, only God can help us we are hopeless.

  124. Ehud Olmert told us how powerful he is over the US.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkdQbhB7Ckk

    And where is Olmert?

  125. Olmert is an ex mobster!

  126. i luv egypt,

    I agree with you 100%

    ‘Israel must be retarded to think that their mass killing has no consequences. ‘

    Yes they are indeed, I have said nearly 50 times that Israel/Zionism is in fact an incurable sickness of the mind that takes a certain degree of immorality

    ‘Its true what my Imam said, only God can help us we are hopeless.’

    All real Muslims know that God has promised victory over the Jews in the end, that’s the second main reason why none of us want to make peace with
    them. The first being their unbelievable propensity for treachery and denying the truth!

  127. Amin ya Rab!!!

  128. i luv egypt says:

    Amin ya Rab, inshalla we will have better leaders and properly use our wealth to protect us from the non stop invaiding our lands. They cal the middle east a shit hole yet almost all the empires of the world had to invaide a middle easter country. They think they can get away with it in Africa and Asia, not with Muslims tho cuz we fight back so yall betta think twice b4 fucking with us. If the UN cant do shit, or moral standards seem not to exist in the West, then yall better be ready for the coming generation. They are way more mad at yall and at us for not doing shit. But we ill prove to be better than them cuz i personaly dont want to do da same like wa they did to us. We will just take out land back and leave them the fuck alone.

    I am tired of dealing with evil unethical humen being like creatures and whom dont udnerstand that they need to wash their ass after taking a shit. No wonder white girls pussy stink like rotten eggs while arab girls got dis expensive perfume all around their body. Yep what i said will piss off some white girls here but maybe they really need to change this filthy habit. Guys you know what i am talking about! this will sound disgusting but because they dont use water after taking a shit, some of them wipe their shit the wrong direction. Meaning they wipe it downwards toward their vagina which causes a foul smell left in that region. Not to mention she is a little drunk with a few drink here and there, she will dance and sweat cuz the vagina area to combine left over shit and sweat together for u to smell b4 penetrating. Eastern european and South Eastern are not like that. They are very close to Arabs but Greek girls need to learn how to shave. It aint sexy at all!!! I over heard Muslim girls telling each other how it is required in Islam that girls after their period HAVE to wash it and also required to add rose water perfume or something similiar that will sanatize it and give a nice finishing smell. I luv my clean ladies.

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