Out of the Sectarian Closet

Like many of you, I have spent the past few weeks in utter fascination on how retarded the western world has gotten when it came to dealing with its growing muslim population. I have laughed my ass off over the Ground Zero Mosque debate (and much like the esteemed President of the US of A, I will not comment on the wisdom of building the mosque there :-P), and I watched in fascination how a small pastor from Florida put the whole world in frenzy by holding two copies of the Koran hostage. While no one does a good media circus like the US, the debates regarding those two events were extra hilarious in Egypt, because of how serious everybody was dealing with them. Suddenly the opposition to building a mosque in ground zero became proof of Islamophobia and discrimination (I wonder what the same population would say to the US building a church or-gasp-a synagogue in one of Saddam’s palaces in Iraq. The horror…the horror), and the actions of one lonely pastor with a flock of 60 became damning evidence of how Christianity was not the religion of love and tolerance it claimed itself to be. That’s it. Discussion closed. Never mind the global condemnation against the burning of the Koran, or the various voices that rose in defense of the American muslim population right to build a place of worship wherever they damn please. None of this mattered. Throughout the Egyptian Media (social and otherwise), champions of the eternally oppressed muslim population put their fingers in their ears, and went “No, no…we can’t hear you. LALALALALALALALAAAAAAAA!”

Now, while this was happening, a different yet equally retarded story was gaining major traction amongst the Egyptian society, over a woman called Camilia Shehata. Camilia is a wife of a Coptic church priest, who left her house for four days and disappeared. Conflicting reports came out on the whole thing, but basically here is the story: The Church claimed she was kidnapped, the police started looking for her, and when they found her they delivered her back to the Coptic Church. Then the rumors started circulating that Camilia left her husband because she decided that Christianity was a lie and the Islam is the way, and that she embraced Islam, and that the Coptic Church is holding her hostage and torturing her until she abandons her newly acquired faith, and return to Christianity. Demonstrations by angry Muslims erupted all over Egypt, and suddenly the Egyptian constitutional right for freedom of religion was discovered and touted by the Islamist population. To the Muslims, the case of Camilia was the ultimate proof of the righteousness of Islam, since the possible conversion of the wife of a priest is an irrefutable victory for the entire muslim nation. To the Christians, it was only another story of a Christian wife that became miserable and wanted to leave her husband, but couldn’t due to the lack of divorce in the Coptic church, so she escaped. The whole thing was a retarded non-story, but what famed the flames were 2 things : 1) The insistence of Pope Shenoda to hide Camilia from the media, which further supported the theory that she was being held against her will by evil copts, and 2) The aforementioned retarded international situation regarding the freakin mosque and the retarded Pastor. There is also the assholish desire of the newspapers to sell copies no matter what the consequences are, but that’s what they do, so we can’t really blame them for doing their jobs as badly as they usually do.

Either way, the Ground Zero Mosque story was finally simmering down, the Koran burning Pastor has decided to let go of his holy literary hostages, while insisting that he can still do this whenever he pleases, and Camilia appeared in a video denying that she ever converted and affirming her Christianity. So, in a nutshell, the world was finally recovering from its retarded sectarian fever, and we were all poised to just sit there and make fun of how stupid the world allows itself to get over religion like we usually do, until the Azhar Scholars Front decided to shit on everybody’s parade and release this statement. The English translation for the statement is below and provided by my good friend S. because it simply had to be translated. Here it is:

 

Boycott them

After the Egyptian Church became the source of intimidation and terror of the state and the nation at large, and after the Church’s arrogance and contempt for laws, norms, customs and religious legitimacy has became apparent to everyone. This church that is yet under the Shenodian reign, brazenly declares its disregard and contempt for these regulations, all for the sake of accounting to illusions that the church seems to have, intending to prove the existence of their religion in the country, at the expense of truth, the state, and its citizens. Making the church a landmark of destruction to national unity and a threat to social security, after the proven evidence of treachery and treason against the national interest and social security of Egypt. 

Rendering the state body helpless despite their knowledge of such treason, giving more reason for the Church to continue with its tyranny, event after another, one of which was the Church challenging state laws and refusing the court verdict that attempted to provide equal divorce laws to muslims and christians. Their ruler ever so arrogantly declared that the State has no rule over the church.

And to make matters worst, there was the accident with the church’s ship of explosives that came from Isreal for a church’s pastor, following the incident with the sisters who converted at will from christianity to islam. Yet the muslim state took no stance towards the criminal behavior of the egyptian church. They delivered the muslim sister Kamilia Zakher, leaving the Church under the orders of its Pharaoh dictator to torment her, and terrorize her like they have done before with Wafaa’ Constantine and others’; all to be able to intimidate and scare any believers, contrary to Allah’s command in his book, that clearly states the protection of Muslim women,(?????? ???????????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????????? ????? ??????????? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ?????????? ???????) [???????? :10]

Yet the insistance of the egyptian church on practicing its tyranny, with the clear and apparent weakness seen from the state bodies towards them, leaves us in greater sedition then ever before, putting us at risk of disasters and grave danger. It has become our duty, morally, socially and legally, if we care for the children of egypt, muslims and christians alike, to stand united against this arrogance of religious orders, this canon of violence, and the patriarchal arrogance that threatens our entire nation with its present and future, laying down the foundation for evil within the fabrics of this nation.

It is therefore, a religious duty that Muslims, who are the majority, to do the following:

First: Quickly declare, in every way and method possible, a rejection of the destructive policy adopted by the egyptian church and the state’s apathy towards it.

Second: Take Legal action by suing the Egyptian Churh, requesting that it becomes subject to the authority of Law, that it is not above it, nor can it abandon or openly violate the state constitiution. Remove all Christian Judges from their posts.

Thirdly: All muslims from now on have to boycott any Christian entity with which the Church gains its strength: until the Christians repent and come to their senses, most important of which are:

1- Pharmacies – Hospitals – Private clinics operated or visited by Christians Muslims shall not buy their medicines from them, or enter them, as to not become accomplices in their crimes.

2 – Jewlery and Gold stores, most commonly owned and run by Christians in egypt.

3- Boycotting furniture stores owned by those Nasserites or frequently visited by them.

4- law, engineering and accounting firms.

5- Boycotting private schools owned and managed by them, those who stand quiet by their crimes and their Satan.

6- Egyptian youth, and Amro Elleithy’s and Shaf3y’s grandchildren can start with posting lists of these organization and institutions, to help facilitate the boycotting for the Muslims.

In conclusion, we are aware of the proper way to deal with the People of the Book, but that was only under the condition that they behave in a straight manner.?? ??????????? ??????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????????????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????????????? ???? ??????????? ???? ???????????? ???????????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????????????)(???????? ??????????? ??????? ???? ????????? ???????????? ??? ???????? ??????????????? ???? ??????????? ??????????? ????? ????????????? ???? ????????????? ?????? ????????????? ??????????? ???? ?????????????) (???????? 8  :9)

This boycott is the only way to retaliate these crimes and fight them. It is a boycott related to this exceptional situation, forced on us by the church’s arrogance and claimed superiority of their canon. 

If it happens that this is put to rest, and they stop torturing the imprisoned women in their church, and the State manages to bring those criminals to justice, then things will go back to the way they were intended.

If the church insists and stands by its current position towards the state and religion, then we warn them that our next step will be civic boycotting to ALL christians in egypt, pushing them to the narrowest of paths, preventing them cohabitation.

We call upon the state, before activating the boycott, to stand against those criminal outlaws, and treat them with certainty.

Egypt should be protected by politicians, rulers and the entire Nation. Perhaps this will show them that the evil of the fitnah is not far away.

If not…there will be great persecution in the land and great corruption. 

This situation requires a speedy boycott, to deprive those criminals of the nation they so greedily covet. 

Issued by the Azhar Scholars Front, on the the third of Shawal 1421, September 12th, 2010.

In case you missed it, or didn’t want to read all of those big words, the Azhar Scholars Front- Which is a salafist group of Azhar Scholars who don’t actually run things in AlAzhar, but do have resonance and followers in the population, no thanks to the cache the Azhar name brings- have just asked the Egyptian population to not only attack the church through courts and lawsuits, but that it’s the national duty of good muslims to participate in a national economic boycott of all Christians in Egypt, until the church stops being “Uppity”. They want Muslims to boycott all Christian businesses and schools, until the wayward Christians return to their senses and conv..ehh..stop – and I quote- “intending to prove the existence of their religion in the country, at the expense of truth, the state, and its citizens“, cause Christinaity in Egypt is an illusion, except when there are Christian businesses to boycott. It all makes sense if you don’t pay attention.

Now, I don’t have to list the reasons why this is messed up, but I will do that anyway: There is no doubt that there was always sectarian tension in Egypt, but it’s been always hush hush, with everyone insisting that all is well, and that the national fabric is made of bulletproof Kevlar, and other such poppycock. No more. This is the game changer. With a religious authority declaring it’s the duty of muslims to effectively economically boycott all Christian businesses until they carry out their affairs to our liking, and threatening to escalate to a social boycott as well if the Christians don’t kowtow to them, Egypt has officially came out of the sectarian closet. Hell, even the Lebanese, who are world renowned for their sectarianism, never went as far as this in recent memory. This is new, and this is dangerous, because some people will take it to heart, and will start peer pressuring their muslim friends to join, who will in turn peer-pressure their muslim friends, and it can all snowball into a secterian avalanche that could take over the nation. And make no mistake, if it does, there will be violence. This will easily go bad very quickly, which is why I am writing this post.

The government will ignore this story and issue a media blackout, because they will believe that talking about will publicize the call of the ASF and then you might have people who will take it to heart. The problem is, people will take it to heart anyway, because if we learned anything from the Danish Cartoons crisis, if people want information that allows them to go nuts, they will find a way to disseminate it and let it take over their small tiny brains. For example, A friend of mine published the link to attach the statement on his facebook profile, and a friend of his asked him what he should do, since he wants to follow the edict and boycott the Christians, but doesn’t know what to do about the fact that his Christian neighbor happened to donate blood to him at a recent surgery. This is the same population that back in the cartoon days refused insulin for their diabetes because it was made in Denmark and “what the hell will I tell the prophet if I die after taking this?”, so the potential for extremely dangerous stupidity here is nothing less than formidable.

If there is a silver lining to all of this, it forces our hand to confront this now, and show once and for all who is hateful towards egypt’s Coptic minority and who isn’t. Our only hope as a nation is not to ignore this, but to let the world know that this is happening, and forcing the Egyptian society to face its own sectarianism and bigotry and the Egyptian government to nip it in the butt. Condemnation to their call has to be so loud and clear that no such call will be made ever again, and IT HAS TO COME FROM MUSLIMS. And if you are one and you are thinking : ” we shouldn’t do anything but just ignore those idiots”, well, my friend, FUCK YOU! If a small pastor in Florida threatening to burn the Koran garnered Global condemnation from muslims and non-muslims alike, then the call of an influential group of clerics for a national boycott of all of Egypt’s Christians deserves nothing less than that from you. Hell, it deserves more than this. This is a national shame and nothing less than your total outrage is expected. And if you can’t see the outrage, imagine yourself hearing about an american call for the national economic boycott of all Muslims in the US, and see how wrong you will think this is then.

We are staring into the sectarian abyss here people, this is no time to play coy.

46 Comments on Out of the Sectarian Closet

  1. Anonymous
    September 16, 2010 at 5:26 am

    “A massacre of Christians in Egypt”?! You see Sandmonkey, I am outraged and appalled at these “scholarly” statements by the Azhar Ulamah Front. But for the commenter who quoted you. I think we should choose our words correctly when we talk about things that could burst into flames within seconds, and as Sandmonkey said, it will be violent. But calling what could result a “massacre” is NOT productive whatsoever, and it does not contribute to “coming out of the closet”. There’s no indicator (as of now) that it would be a massacre because there is no unified force that is equipped to massacre a good portion of the Egyptian population. It will be violent, if neglected, yes, but we’re not speaking of any massacre.

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  2. yogi
    September 16, 2010 at 7:32 am

    I don’t understand the big deal. They are just expressing the well-known stance of the Muslim Brothers which is that all Christians should eventually be converted to Islam (or die). This position has been gradually adopted by the Egyptian government (and population) so that basically the Copts are a persecuted minority – one of many in the Muslim World.

    Islam has become synonymous with bigotry, racism and sectarianism. The laugher is that these bigots have the temerity to criticize Western countries for having freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

    P.S. You should write more, your posts are always interesting and well-written.

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  3. yogi
    September 16, 2010 at 7:33 am

    I don’t understand the big deal. They are just expressing the well-known stance of the Muslim Brothers which is that all Christians should eventually be converted to Islam (or die). This position has been gradually adopted by the Egyptian government (and population) so that basically the Copts are a persecuted minority – one of many in the Muslim World.

    Islam has become synonymous with bigotry, racism and sectarianism. The laugher is that these bigots have the temerity to criticize Western countries for having freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

    P.S. You should write more, your posts are always interesting and well-written.

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  4. AF
    September 16, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    yogi, you know nothing.

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  5. yogi
    September 16, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Q.E.D

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  6. Adam B.
    September 17, 2010 at 6:45 am

    Hmm…

    “how a small pastor from Florida put the whole world in frenzy by holding two copies of the Koran hostage. ”

    That’s a bit of an overstatement, don’t you think? He may have put the whole muslim world (along with a handful of PC americans) in a frenzy, but I kinda doubt that as well…

    Honestly, what do you guys care if some hillbilly preacher from the florida swamps burns a koran or two? If it’s really such a big deal, don’t you think Allah will give him the lightning bolt treatment himself? ;)

    As for the Egyptian story, I’m gettin’ kinda numb when it comes to these things. The statement is great fun to read, although it sends a shiver down my spine to think of how many ordinary egyptians will actually take the words to heart. Education education education!!! Education for the masses – it’s the only way out of this quagmire! But then I think of the mammoth task this represents, and the sad state of affairs in Egyptian politics (not to mention the rest of the ME) and I sink down into the numbness again…

    Still, considering the forum, let’s have a few laughs…

    “intending to prove the existence of their religion in the country, at the expense of truth, the state, and its citizens”

    Wow! So the Azhar Scholars don’t even believe that the faith of the copts’ is an actual religion? It’s all just some elaborate hoax? A big lie? The copts are just pretending to believe in the christian god? And to the detriment of the Egyptian state and people no less?!? Oh my…! :D

    “a landmark of destruction to national unity”

    How can you have unity without recognition?

    ” and a threat to social security”

    Social security? Not “national”, but “social”…? So, the presence of copts in Egypt results in poverty and ostracations in the entire Egyptian society? I wonder how this works… :D

    “provide equal divorce laws to muslims and christians.”

    Without any real knowledge on the matter, I’m gonna stick my neck out and guess they mean “muslim divorce laws for muslims and christians”… ;) By the way, it now seems as though they recognize the faith of the copts? Can they please make up their minds! :D

    “Their ruler ever so arrogantly declared that the State has no rule over the church.”

    Gee, that’s pretty much what muslim minorities in the rest of the world are declaring as well… :D For the record, this is crap, regardless of religion!

    “our next step will be civic boycotting to ALL christians in egypt”

    Yep, cause there’s no justice like collective punishment! It’s the best!!! :P

    “Egypt should be protected by politicians, rulers and the entire Nation”

    Well, not the ENTIRE nation, obviously… ;)

    “If not…there will be great persecution in the land and great corruption. ”

    Oh yeah, those 10% of the Egyptian population is going to persecute the rest, no less! And corruption! Oh my, what’s that? We’ve never heard of it in Egypt, but whatever it is, we don’t want it! Keep it away! :D

    Sam, I suggest you tell your friend to tell his friend to make a little gash in his wrist and let all that evil coptic blood run out. Better jump in a bathtub and keep it running for a few hours, just to be safe… ;)

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  7. thewiz
    September 17, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Afraid that ya missed the point of all this Muslim vs Christian or Islam vs West crappolla. And the real issue is the same of the “Israeli vs those poor Palestinians” thingy.

    And that is to keep the people fired up, pissed off, and distracted by the fact that all Muslim countries are run by corrupt dictators that are oppressing and ripping off their people for their own benefit. They need to keep all this crap stirred up so that the people don’t organize against them. Keep the people angry at manufactured enemies so they don’t ralize that the real enemy is the one in charge.

    Its a big conspiracy by the tyrants, the clerics, and the state run media. They all profit from the same game. And it won’t change unless the people say game over.

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  8. thewiz
    September 17, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    PS Did ya see that hilarious attempt to make Mubarak look good? Seems an Egyptian paper photoshopped a shot of world leaders heading into a meeting. They took the original shot, with Big bad Mubarak trailing off to the right of the group, and photoshopped it to look like he was in front and all the world big wigs were following him! Thats what counts as “leadership” in the dictatorial Muslim world.

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  9. whit seven
    September 17, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    “Afraid that ya missed the point of all this Muslim vs Christian”

    And what’s your point? That these issues don’t matter because there are ulterior motives at play? I’m sure there are, but so what? That doesn’t make the situation any less volatile for Christians in Egypt or anywhere else.
    I also remain very unconvinced that a majority of constantly angry muslims need much encouragement and I would suggest they’re capable of violence simply from islamic motives .

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  10. thewiz
    September 17, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Whit; the point is that they are being manipulated by tyrants and clerics. They stir up such hatred to stay in power. Yes, these issues are important but they are better handled by pointing out how people are being manipulated and these issues being used.

    Imagine how much less these issues would occur if every time one did the people would say “Christians aren’t our enemy, the tyrants are our enemy!” Or “Jews aren’t our enemy, Tyrants are our enemy” or insert “The west” or “the US” or any other bogyman that is thrown in their face.

    When one understands how the US, the Jews, the Christians and more are constantly blamed, since their birth, for the suffering of the people, it is easy to see why there is such hatred in the angry Muslim mobs. That’s all they hear their entire lives. And the “Islamic motives” are used to keep them that way. Its an unholy alliance between the tyrants and the clerics. They both stay in power as long as they direct the anger outward.

    Many of these countries have incredible wealth…all tied up by tyrants and their cronies. If they had democratic governance without the corruption along with a capitalistic system so that all may prosper, the anger would quickly fade away.

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  11. Ellie in T.O.
    September 17, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Thanks for this information (re the Copts). Our western media have ignored it entirely; in fact this is the very first I have heard of it.

    They like to say that here in the west we have a “free press”! Huhh!! Our information is controlled too — but by the media themselves, instead of the government, strangely enough.

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  12. Bill
    September 18, 2010 at 5:20 am

    Note the phrase “If not…there will be great persecution in the land and great corruption.”

    This has specific significance to Muslims as it triggers off particular phrases from the Qur’an:
    2:93 “…and persecution is worse than slaughter”, i.e. If you are being ‘persecuted’ you are given the license to kill,
    5:32 “We ordained … that if any one slew a person, unless it be for murder or spreading mischief/corruption in the land, it would be as if he slew a whole people…”, and so license is again given to kill an one deemed as a spreader of ‘corruption’.

    In essence this key line gives Qur’anic sanction for murder without retribution for the murderers.

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  13. nadavu
    September 19, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I’m just happy I don’t live in Egypt. The western world is far from perfect, but it’s a million times better than what I read about here.

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  14. Babs
    September 20, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    I don’t often comment but I really feel compelled to comment on this issue.
    I am a New Yorker. I watched in horror as Muslim terrorists changed our world as we knew it. I felt the quiet of shut down air space, people walking 100 blocks with their children in tow to escape the horror, the 5 funerals I attended of fathers that would never see their children again. This is still very fresh in my mind.
    Now, we have some Imam that stakes his claim under American law to build a 13 story mosque on the grounds of a building that was damaged by the landing gear of one of the airliners that struck the world trade towers. I do not dispute his right to build. That is enshrined in our law. What I do dispute is his propriety and, the more this Imam talks to the press the less impressed I am.
    The last thing I heard him say about the building of a mosque at this site was a veiled threat that “the crazies” would become violent if the mosque wasn’t built.
    It always seems to come down to this when the Muslim world doesn’t get exactly what they want; the leaders imply “don’t blame me, there will be violence but I can’t control the street” when of course they could control the street if they wished to.
    Over 2,000 people were murdered just two blocks from this mosque site by Islamic lunatics. The fact that this proposed mosque is to be named the “Cordoba House” just adds salt to the wound.(Anyone that does not know the signifigance of “Cordoba” please look it up.)The Imam himself has said that if he knew the turmoil this mosque would cause he would have never endeavored this project. Well, now he knows that the people of the United States do not want a “Cordoba House” within two blocks of ground zero. Yet, he persists.
    This only serves to drive Muslim/American relations further into a ditch.
    There is nothing stupid or retarded about the opposition to this mosque at this site. There are over 200 mosques in the city of NY right now. The idea that Americans have a ban on mosques is pure fantasy. Please compare that to the building or repair of Christian houses of worship in the Islamic world…

    We Americans ask that Islam extend some propriety to the sufferers of the greatest murder on American soil of all time. Build your mosque, just not there. Why is “tolerence” constantly extended to the Muslim world but never reciprocated?

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  15. tedders
    September 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    @Babs,

    Because modern radical Islam is a political movement not a religious movement.

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    September 21, 2010 at 4:17 pm

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  17. Toady
    September 21, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Babs;

    I am also a New Yorker. I couldn’t care less about the mosque issue. They have the right to build it. New York has REAL problems that people should be demonstrating about.

    New Yorkers need to get a grip.

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  18. Babs
    September 21, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Hey Toady-
    What kind of “grip” would you like me to get?

    “I couldn’t care less about the mosque issue”

    Well, I actually do care about the mosque issue. Should my sensitivities be discounted by Islam? Seems to me that they never discount their sensitivities; in fact, they hold riots to make their point.

    No one has ever disputed the right under American law to build a mosque at this site. What everyone is disputing is the propriety of it.

    The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this speaks volumes.

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  19. Egypter
    September 23, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Some good news on reconciliation between Egypt’s Christians and Muslims (sarcasm):

    On September 15, Qatar-owned Al-Jezirah TV broadcast a program called Without Limits, presented by moderator Ahmad Mansour, who hosted the Islamist Dr. Selim el-Awah, former Secretary-General of the World Council of Muslim Scholars, which has stunned and enraged Copts inside and outside of Egypt. “El-Awah is simply threatening Copts that the forthcoming chaos after Mubarak dies will see mass violence against the Copts,” says Magdy Khalil, Coptic activist and head of Middle East Freedom Forum.

    The program alleged the Church has its own militia and hides weapons and ammunition in monasteries and churches, preparing for a war “against the Muslims.” el-Awah said that “Israel is in the heart of the Coptic Cause,” and the Church gets weapons from Israel. He cited as evidence an incident in mid-August, in which the son of a priest in Port Said, Mr. Joseph El-Gabalawy, was falsely accused of importing weapons from Israel. Although he was cleared of charges and released, as the imported goods were children’s fireworks from China and did not belong to him, he is still detained by State Security.

    That’s amazing, isn’t it! I knew those churches and monasteries were just facades for military barracks!! Those ‘monks’ are really elite special forces operatives that are highly trained in the arts of death. Why do you think they wear black – they are ninjas!!! Don’t let their peacefulness and pacifism fool you, it’s all a guise.

    http://english.freecopts.net/english//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1101&Itemid=1

    I think Egypt may suffer from a severe form of Christianaphobia…

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  20. pelsar
    September 25, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    glad to see your back writing again…always a pleasure to read your blog….

    from another cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian on the other side of the sinai…..

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  21. Egyptian
    September 27, 2010 at 5:36 am

    They are really fond of news circus. I really don’t understand the big deal in building a mosque in ground zero

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  22. Hans
    September 27, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    People have nothing to do these days.

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  23. Adam B.
    September 27, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Hans, that’s probably the problem in a nutshell, right there…

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  24. echo 1
    September 28, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    The story about the Coptic Church is typical of muslims. They are so fragile in their beliefs that they have to jump on anything that gives their religion credibility. Well, at least what they think gives them credibility.

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  25. dalia
    September 29, 2010 at 6:12 am

    “………….Hundreds of Bibles Have Been Burned By the Iranian Government Security Forces
    Where is the Muslim outrage against this attack on Iranian Christians?
    SARDASHT, IRAN (ANS) — Following the outrage in the Islamic world about the possible Koran (Qur’an) burning that was due to take place at the Dove World Outreach Centre in Gainesville, Florida, who had launched “International Burn a Koran Day” to coincide with the ninth anniversary of the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, it is interesting to note that Muslims have been silent about a shocking Bible burning that took place in Iran.But now I can reveal that the Farsi Christian News Network (www.fcnn.com) has reported that Iranian Government Security Forces burned hundreds of Bibles back in May of this year. …..”
    More:
    http://www.assistnews.net/STORIES/2010/s10090141.htm

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  26. Ray
    September 30, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    I have no trouble with God, it’s his fan clubs that worry me.

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  27. Hans
    October 6, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Note this very nice website about diablogue with Muslims:

    http://www.qantara.de

    in Arabic, Indonesian, Turkish, English and German

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  28. ImHosted Review
    October 7, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    What a great blog post! Thank you for sharing it on your blog.

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  29. benches seating listings
    October 8, 2010 at 5:08 am

    glad to see your back writing again…always a pleasure to read your blog….

    from another cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian on the other side of the sinai…..

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  30. DomainDiva
    October 8, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Good to read another post; the way you make sense of things nonsensical is amazing.

    I have been in Turkey on business for 2 months. Dude, you are SO BLOCKED in Turkey.

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  31. Claire
    October 24, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Your articles would be a whole lot easier to read if you didn’t throw around the word retarded so much. Odd how that is more offensive than the F-word?

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  32. Janjan
    November 2, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    So now, this Camilia has become a “cause celebre” in Iraq, and a whole bunch of Catholics are dead because of it. I am so sick of Islam.

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  33. Modernjan
    November 3, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Holy F*ck, 100 people died in Iraq because of this fake story, man, we think teabaggers are crazy but this is a whole other level, how do you cope living in the Middle-East?

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  34. George
    November 15, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    ?????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ??????????

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    ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?????.. ????.

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    ??? ???? ???????? ?????? – ?????????

    ???? ???? ????? ??? ???????» ???? ??? ??? ???????» ?????..

    ?? ?????.. ?? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????.. ?????»?

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    ??? ??? ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ????? !!!!!…..

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  35. Katrin
    January 1, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Sometimes it’s terrible to have been right. Anonymous – you can’t deny a massacre anymore. :-(

    Even German media don’t take the official statement that it was an attack by Al Quaida.

    What a sad beginning of 2011. My best wishes for Egypt, the region and especially sandmonkey.

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