Rantings of a Sandmonkey
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Don’t tweet… :/
Glad to hear you are still around. Sorry to hear I need to join Twitter to find out what’s going on.
One does not have to join twitter to read the messages:
Power to the Egyptians!
Go Egypt! And best wishes. Our government may not support you, but I assure you the people do.
Good luck doing what you are doing! Keep up the presure! Now is your time!
Well, the messages on twitter don’t amount to a whole lot; I’ll take the blog any day!
Unless I’m missing some major feature of twitter…?
If these protests are truly democratic then good luck. But remember what happened in Iran. The Muslim radicals took over very quickly. Don’t trade bad for worse. I hope you all stay safe.
Good luck and take care!
Please all stay save out there! Good luck with your cause…
Muslim Brotherhood, are NOT THE GOOD Guys, be careful for what you wish.
So now the S#!T hits the fan. If only Egypt could change bloodlessly…. Afraid not. This could get really bad.
The ikhwan backed by mullah money are going to push for power, and obama is going to play jimmy carter to the brotherhood playing the ayatollahs. Egypt is going to be destroyed. I pity the Egyptian people, especially the Copts. They will suffer the most under the jihadi brothers… before the jihadis are utterly destroyed.
Does opposition have a leader or there are many different opposition groups and only MB has one? If it is latter be careful what you wish for.
I am not an Egyptian and not for me to tell you what to do, but do you really have better choice than Mubarak?
Are they talking about SM??
In the long run, a first and vital step for peace in the middle east. in the short run, it will look like the complete opposite.
Tweeter just isn’t it
Good luck and stay safe over there SM. Just remember that toppling Mubarak is only the first step. You can’t let the jihadis fill the power vacuum.
A one-leader opposition is not necessarily the best option; chances are it’ll just lead to another Mubarak… What you need are opposition leaders ready to cooperate to form a state built on reasonable compromises once the dust settles.
My greatest fear is that Egypt is not yet quite ready for democracy; this system demands a somewhat educated and informed populace, and – on paper at least – the average Egyptian doesn’t meet those criteria yet…
It seems Mubarak has felt it necessary to remove his current government and replace it with another, handpicked by himself of course.
Yeah, like that’s gonna really appease the masses, ’cause it’s not Mubarak himself that’s the problem here…
Does anyone know where to find updates? None of my Egyptian tweeters are active. Is everything completely blocked, or is there a mirror somewhere?
Seems that everything is blocked. My best wishes for Egypt!
Sandmonkey for president.
The world is watching. Deeply hoping that this revolution will only benefit all the people of Egypt. Keep making noise, SM! We are listening. Good luck to you and the people.
Go Egypt go, the free world is proud of you.
rtry, could it be that your perception is rather based on something in own head?
Just wondering because the message coming out of Egypt to me is quite another one: The people are obviously busy protecting what they have achieved so far against plainclothes police thugs and looters. They have a revolution going on there, and I guess if someone told them their protests were against the Camp David treaties, they would try to find you a shrink.
These people are admirable. My best wishes to them!
rtry; you must be watching to much el Jazzera. The US is scared of this getting out of control. And the people in the streets are decidedly not anti-USA. Egypt is not 1979 Iran. They have witnessed what extreme Islam-ism can do to a country. And they have seen in Iraq that extremists care nothing about people and will kill anyone, including women and children, to gain power. Power is all they care about and the people of Egypt will not give such power to anyone.
The US national anthem is the story of someone watching a night-time bombardment of a fort, and wondering if he still had a country the next morning.
God bless Egypt’s ordinary people.
The turmoil in the world is paving the way for the dictator of the world, the antiChrist.
“The turmoil in the world is paving the way for the dictator of the world, the antiChrist.”
The world has been in turmoil for the past four thousand years. The anti-Christ is a long time a-coming.
Egyptians : please send an armored division in the Sinaï and f… the yids !
Charles @ 30, are you really this obtuse or just playing one on Internet.
The moment any Egyptian armored division sets foot into Sinai without Israeli permission Camp David goes. And to make matters worst there is no guaranty this armored division will be able to travel 50 miles deep into Sinai before it is totally destroyed.
Keep Standing ground everyone. Hats off to the people of Egypt!!
rtry @ 22 & 23: You must be watching some strange channels indeed – your observations have nothing to do what I’m seeing in the news these hours…!
Charles @ 30: What good would an armored division in the Sinai do? At best they’d kick the butts of a few thousand Russian tourists, which wouldn’t be such a bad thing come to think of it!
To understand the middle east, all you need to know that there not one single democratic country in the whole region, EXCEPT Israel. Every other country is a form of dictatorship.
Power to the Egyptians! I feel like I felt watching the communist regime in my own country fall 14 years after I left.
Now, I’m watching the fall of a brutal regime in my husband’s country.
I love the Egyptians! Every one of you! Give ‘em hell. Don’t give up. Don’t listen to the Idiot in Chief in America. The ordinary American supports your right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
The last time we were in Egypt, the state of the Egyptians brought me to tears daily – and you’d think I’d be used to it after Russia. We support you. We support you! We are with you!!! FIGHT!!
Sam, stay safe as you can and take no chances with your security. Thank you for keeping us posted. What do you think will happen next? What is the desirable outcome for the Egyptian people? All of the Americans that I know here in Austin, Texas support the Egyptian people!
I wish someone would play a good patriotic Abdelhalim song to Tahrir square to keep their spirits up… Keep up the strength and make Egypt the country it was meant to be.
Where are you, @sandmonkey?
rtry @ 35: Well, then you’re watching a different CNN, BBC etc. than I am – not a hint of anti-US and anti-Israel theme in these demonstrations; luckily/wisely the Egyptians seem to be focusing on their own domestic problems rather than international politics. Not a hint of western orchestrations. As has been noted, these are conclusions you’re making in your own mind. Nothing wrong with that, but be aware that they’re definitely your own conclusions! The vast majority of westerners and western media are viewing this uprising as an internal Egyptian affair.
Denial? I’d say it’s you making up facts to fit your theory, rather than us denying anything…
I do not know how much of it is true, but here it is:
‘Egypt troops may enter Sinai’
Under 1979 peace treaty Egypt agreed to leave Sinai Peninsula demilitarized. State officials now claim Israel agreed to allow Egyptian army to move two battalions – about 800 soldiers – into area as protests threaten regime …
Coming from Israelis probably true:
but I’d wait.
The truth is no one knows what will happen in Egypt. You are so blinded by propaganda that you are convinced the MB will be in power. I suggest you use your crystal ball to predict the winning lottery numbers. Mubarak MUST go. People have been suffocating for 30 years. It is not like the only other alternative to Mubarak is the MB. These comments are pretentious and misleading.
VIVA LA REVOLUCION
krakow @ 43, would you care to offer few alternatives besides MB as an example?
The protestors have done a great job so far in organising themselves — not only in organising the protest itself, but also in protecting neighbourhoods, organising food supply, directing traffic, dissolving misinformation, cleaning places and streets, etc. pp. From intimidated subjects, they have become citizens. They are very well capable of coming up with new parties, and I guess they will carefully choose their representatives.
As for the reaction of the West, it’s the only way we can act. Right now, our governments are legitimizing the cause of the protesters while at the same time addressing Mubarak as the leader of the country (which, in effect, he still is…). In other words playing on both horses, the only viable road to take. A direct intervention will only spark anger in the hearts of muslims around the world, and besides, we can’t risk siding with the loser – we need all the alliances we can get in the ME…
The army is saying it won’t stop you all, SM. Mubarak’s toast. Be ready for the jihadis to make a play and STOP them, that’s all the advice we can give you. Good luck Sandmonkey, let freedom ring.
Whoever gets this message PLEASE let the Egyptian people know that we in the USA, citizens and government alike are behind you 100% in your fight for democracy and the end to 30 yrs. of tyranny. Please bear in mind that the US government CANNOT dictate to Mubarak. The US government has a long history of interference with the politics of other countries. Our new government is making a special effort to change this perception of interference. If President Obama tells Mubarak that he has to leave; or if the CIA interferes, what has changed? It is horrible to hear that the tanks and other armament used have a USA label.
Please don’t allow the Muslim fundamentalists get into power because you will end up with the same or perhaps worse problems and less freedom than you have now. I hope and pray for a relatively calm and bloodless transition!!!
G. R. Greenberg, beautiful words, but one thing bothers me, how do you know that everything will end in democracy rather than will be transformed into new dictatorship and of even worst kind than before?
Bottom line, (not that it matters, but) I am not so quick to support it just yet.
leo, exactly the spirit which delivered Western democracies two centuries ago, isn’t it.
@ 46, how do you know?
Do you mean desire for change or do you mean the destination?
While former is true, latter is very much in doubt.
So far popular uprising is the only commonality.
You ask them what they want and how they intend to achieve it and they appear not have a foggiest idea.
Here in Canada we are rooting for the Egyptian people to reach their goal of achieving true democracy. I hope the protests lead to democracy in Egypt. The Egyptians deserve to have a democratic and accountable government, with human rights for all Egyptian citizens. From what I can see this is what the protests are all about. Go, Sandmonkey, go! I hope you and your fellow protestors keep safe.
Sudanese Thinker’s Interview with Sandmonkey at his blog:
We are rooting for the Egyptian people, as well. (US)
Since our President seems to be at a loss for ideas, I’d like to offer mine.
BO could be a HERO both in the US and world-wide for publicly asking Mubarak to
1. Announce that he will step down upon the innauguration of a new leader after a thorough and fair process.
2. Announce a national discussion period (very like in Iraq) about what the people want in the way of a new government (constitution? election of representatives in the present form of government? election of an organizing body to select a new form of government?), followed by
3. A period of organizing the political body that will decide how elections will be held, and
4. Elections to be held at time set by that political body.
5. He should state how long this actually took in Iraq, and respectfully ask them to consider this as some sort of practical guidance for their expectations.
He should offer US advice on this while specifically stating that the American military will have no military role in this and that advisors with experience in Iraq might be offered in a consulting role only, not to provide security. He should state that the Egyptian military is perfectly capable of providing security, and that they should provide security for both the government and the populace in this tense and frightening time.
He should thank Mubarak for being an allay and a person of good will who has kept the peace and brought some improvement to the lot of Egyptians, acknowledge our fears of radicalism and a bad outcome like in Iran, where a dictator that attempted to modernize his country but whose internal policies were not well-advised, was replaced by a far more oppressive and unsuccessful regime. He should admit that a good result in the short term is not pre-ordained, but that the Egyptian people are capable of governing themselves, and are worthy of our help and good will.
He should mention that the Egyptians have many relatives living in the United States, who are good citizens, and we know that the Egyptians in Egypt are also as capable of determining their own fates as those in America, given the chance.
And he should say we ask for the blessing of the Creator, who some people call God, and some people call Allah upon this effort, and for peace to all people of good will. This last is not something he would like to do, but it would mend SO MANY fences. He was hired to do this.
This kind of statement on the part of a US president, has the potential for cooling down the situation somewhat because it honors the good Mubarak has done as well as the legitimate right of the Egyptian people to alter or abolish their government. It gives Mubarak a face-saving way out (the man is going to die, we all know this) and a way to go forward without chaos. It also shows respect for the Egyptian people, something that has been in too short supply for far too long.
The whole world has watched what happened in the USSR, Lebanon, the West Bank, Iran, and Iraq. We have the experience. We can do this. The US bully pulpit is like no other, and BO should use it, so that the Egyptian people can not only have their chance to alter or abolish their government, but also do it in a way that has an enhanced chance of turning out well for them in both the short run and the long run.
Ultimately it’s up to the Egyptians. But I’d really like to see our leader stand up for democracy in an effective way.
Valerie, great post. I’d like to see President Obama take the right stand as well. The Egyptians have shown that they want democracy and peace. Our government should do all that it can to support this dream and help make it their future reality.
@47, how could I know the future? Do you think my forefathers did know theirs when they toppled the regime which made them suffer, and built what I can enjoy know: a pluralistic democracy?
By definition, I can only know the past and the presence and of each not more than a little bit. About the last two decades in Egypt, I have learnt just enough to get an idea of what the protesters have accomplished by taking the streets: about one million people overcame their (justified) fear of the riot police and the plainclothes police thugs and made a stand for their rights. That alone is enough to take my (imaginary) hat off to them. But that’s not all: They also managed to organise themselves and act as citizens. Those I heard and read, btw, do know what they want very well. Not all of them want the same, but that’s part of a democracy, isn’t it.
In my eyes, these people are brilliant right now. What the future brings, we will see. After what they have accomplished in the last few days, I have confidence in their ability to come up with the representatives they want – and choose other ones if they should fail. The Western need for an ally in the region is certainly not a good reason to keep a reign of terror in power. (Especially not if the tyrant is an octogenarian whose regime drove numerous people towards an unwanted direction.)
Sorry for my English, it’s not my mother tongue, and I am very, very happy for the Egyptians tonight.
can you please write about the the protest that is coming up in Algiers on Feb 12, 2011 , IN Algeirs, Algeria. EVERYONE needs to be free !!!.. The pro-democracy group the Algerian League for the Defence of Human Rights (LADDH) plans a march in Algiers on February 12.
@52, I do not know who your forefathers are, but if your country ended up in democracy it means they knew what to do next after dictator is gone and rage is over. So far the only entity in Egypt that knows what to do next is Muslim Brotherhood. Hardly an improvement.
In revolutions getting out on the street and start killing each other is the simplest and easiest thing to do. Sobering and hardest part comes later, when there is nobody else to kill anymore. You either start building your dream (but you need to know exactly what you want) or turn on each other.
P.S. Do not worry about your English. We are not here to give each other language lessons.
Ah, come on… Most present day democracies came about through trial and error over several centuries – our present day constitutions were by no means (the US, due to it’s young age, being a rare exception) planned from the get-go…
Personally, I’m worried about the future of a democracy in a country, where illiteracy is estimated at between 30 and 50%! You need an informed populace in order to have a properly functioning democracy, the very reason why democracy as we know it was centuries in the making in Europe and even the US… A well-educated elite to construct a proper constitution is not enough if the populace doesn’t know how and why to vote.
“the man is going to die, we all know this”
Doubt it – he’ll do the Idi Amin, and take the last flight to Riyadh, or he’ll do the Baby Doc, and head for Paris…
Let me rephrase…
Our constitutions have been heavily modified over the years, either directly or through layers and layers of legislature on top, in order to conform to our societies as they have evolved…
Adam @ 54, “Most present day democracies came about through trial and error over several centuries”
Then who’s to say that Mubarak era is not just another stepping stone on the way to true democracy in Egypt. And if next stepping stone will be Muslim Brotherhood then that is the way it should be. Let’s roll the dice.
True, noone can predict the future and say whether one decision will take us this way or that for sure.
Still, we can talk about likelihood, and seeing as how the Mubarak-era was a step back from the Sadat-era, and an MB-era will be a step back from the Mubarak-era, we can, with some conviction, conclude that such an outcome of the current affairs will not in the long run bring Egypt closer to democracy nor the average Egyptian closer to personal freedom…
Trial and error yes, but based on logical assumptions – prudence demands that we learn from past mistakes; the Egyptians should not put an arab version of Hitler in power and expect peace and prosperity, nor should they put an arab version of the Ayatollah in power and expect personal freedom for all…!
There is an American term for the pro-Mubarak demonstration today. “Astroturf” meaning fake, phony, contrived.
The world is watching, I know I am to see the outcome to what is now in my mind a civil war. What is most disturbing is how foreign press including those here from Canada have been beaten and had their equipment confiscated to stop them from getting the story out. Please stay safe…ciao and Godspeed
Ya zalameh check this out:
Apparently you’ve colluded with Israel and Algeria against the regime..
Wow.. I just stumbled across your blog earlier today. I wasn’t aware of the significant role you have played in the protests. I was simply looking for Egyptian bloggers. I just watched the video you were featured in on CNN. I just wanted to say that I commend you for your intelligence, bravery and determination. You are truly a hero my friend. I would like to dedicate a post to you on my blog if you do not mind. I have already dedicated one post to all of the revolutionaries and protesters throughout the Middle East. Do you know anyone who would be willing to translate the following message from Arabic to English: http://digitalmeltd0wn.blogspot.com/2011/02/message-to-protesters-and.html
I used Google’s translation service, but when I translated it back to English it did not read the way I intended for it to. If you, or anyone else, would be willing to help me with some of the posts I will be dedicating to the revolutionaries and protesters in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Jordan and Algeria during the days to come, please contact me via my blog or at shockw4ve_x at hotmail dot com
It is difficult watching the events in Egypt from across the ocean, but know that we here in Canada are with you and hope that Mubarak comes to his senses, and soon.
One suggestion. If the government plans on cutting and running, they will destroy any incriminating evidence and moving their money and prized possessions, before they do. Therefore a good idea would be to monitor government buildings and garbage dumps to see if there are any indications that their shredders are working overtime. If there are no signs then you may be in trouble.
Best wishes and stay safe.
Best road for egypt to gain freedom and democrocy is for the people to renouce the present terror religion, embrace the Judao-christion faith and swear aligence to Franklin Gram, John Hagee and Rabbi Yosef Hershkovits.
Then allow us to come in and for the next 3-5 generations run things in your name (this will convince us that there are no “hidden terrorists in your midst.
You can also nominate Ellen Degeneres or Sarah Palin to lead the transition
From the experience of other revolutions (1)
a) Do not accept less than the complete collapse of the entire regime (if you keep some figures of the old elite in positions of military or political power, they will rebuild fast the old status quo). b) The formation of a provisory government of national unity (representative of the egyptian people) to prepare the country for democratic elections in a short deadline of 6 to 12 mounths – time the civil society will need to organize in political parties. c) Open the democratic process to all political ideologies, excepting the political organization that supported the dictatorship, and never but never permit the mix of religion with civil power – keep religion in the mosques and civil political organizations in the parliament.
Nice, great post. One vote up! Add me as friend
Thanks for posting this and thank goodness for people like you…I really enjoy your twitter and think what you’re doing is great!
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